Hijinx
Well-Known Member
We sure do,Hard to believe how many voted for Hillary, and even harder to believe some of them want Chelsea to run.
Man identifies flaws in yellow light timing, gets $500 fine
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We sure do,Hard to believe how many voted for Hillary, and even harder to believe some of them want Chelsea to run.
awpitt
Main Streeter
Well, like I've said many time over the past year.... We had the worst choices to pick from in any time in American history.
Hijinx
Well-Known Member
I can agree with that.
Chris0nllyn
Well-Known Member
It didn;t start the primaries like that, so the people we had to choose from is our fault anyway.
Dougstermd
ORGASM DONOR
This is the most logical thing I read all day
glhs837
Power with Control
No, what they are saying is that by publishing letters that say he's an engineer, and presenting opinions on engineering decisions, even ones he has no control over, he is acting as if he is one.
Hijinx
Well-Known Member
Only the Republicans actually had a Primary.
The Democrats had decided long before who their candidate was, and they cheated to make sure.
Chris0nllyn
Well-Known Member
The people still vote for their candidate in the general. Not my fault Americans are so gullible.
Järlström had originally tried in 2014 to present the board with research suggesting that turning cars need more time to go through red lights because the math that cameras are based on is from the 1950s and based on objects that move in a straight line.
But instead of, you know, acting like adults and greeting a good-faith critique with some measure of curiosity, the board opted to investigate Järlström instead. That investigation ended with the fine and, later, a lawsuit filed by Järlström, who charged that the board had violated his First Amendment rights.
The state of Oregon admitted Monday that, no ####, the board had done just that, according to The Oregonian. Järlström is not a licensed engineer in Oregon, but he did study engineering in college, and, more to the point, wasn’t doing the research for any commercial reason. What he did, as our own Jason Torchinsky has pointed out, amounted to screaming at a red-light camera from the comfort of your own car, though he did it with math.
And while this saga has already gone on for far too long, it’s going to go on for a little bit longer, as Järlström’s lawyers have asked a federal magistrate judge to rule that the state law itself is unconstitutional, since it represents a “ban on mathematical debate,” according to The Oregonian. The state has already returned the $500 to Järlström and has said it will stop pursuing him any further.
Oregon Admits To Violating The Constitutional Rights Of Red-Light Camera Critic Who Was Fined $500
But instead of, you know, acting like adults and greeting a good-faith critique with some measure of curiosity, the board opted to investigate Järlström instead. That investigation ended with the fine and, later, a lawsuit filed by Järlström, who charged that the board had violated his First Amendment rights.
The state of Oregon admitted Monday that, no ####, the board had done just that, according to The Oregonian. Järlström is not a licensed engineer in Oregon, but he did study engineering in college, and, more to the point, wasn’t doing the research for any commercial reason. What he did, as our own Jason Torchinsky has pointed out, amounted to screaming at a red-light camera from the comfort of your own car, though he did it with math.
And while this saga has already gone on for far too long, it’s going to go on for a little bit longer, as Järlström’s lawyers have asked a federal magistrate judge to rule that the state law itself is unconstitutional, since it represents a “ban on mathematical debate,” according to The Oregonian. The state has already returned the $500 to Järlström and has said it will stop pursuing him any further.
Oregon Admits To Violating The Constitutional Rights Of Red-Light Camera Critic Who Was Fined $500
Chris0nllyn
Well-Known Member
This is bigger than a particular party, IMO. This is a classic example of our govt. trying to silence those who put them in office.
Chris0nllyn
Well-Known Member
As a follow up (and to point out the break-neck speed in which our justice system works) to these quotes in the OP:
Last week, U.S. Magistrate Judge Stacie F. Beckerman issued a permanent injunction against the board's enforcement of the relevant rules (including the $500 fine) as they violate Järlström's First Amendment right.
The Institute of Justice represented Järlström.
https://ij.org/case/oregon-engineering-speech/
Last week, U.S. Magistrate Judge Stacie F. Beckerman issued a permanent injunction against the board's enforcement of the relevant rules (including the $500 fine) as they violate Järlström's First Amendment right.
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/5673252-Jarlstorm-Opinion.html
The Institute of Justice represented Järlström.
https://ij.org/case/oregon-engineering-speech/
Smokey1
Well-Known Member
That is what I was thinking. You can't legally represent yourself as a professional engineer unless you are certified.
Chris0nllyn
Well-Known Member
Update:
The Institute of Traffic Engineers (ITE) ended up using Järlström's work to update their yellow light timing formula.
https://www.ite.org/pub/?id=219D4959-ECEE-FB90-CE1D-05D2C8442F33
The Institute of Traffic Engineers (ITE) ended up using Järlström's work to update their yellow light timing formula.
https://www.ite.org/pub/?id=219D4959-ECEE-FB90-CE1D-05D2C8442F33
Toxick
Splat
Yay!
Double-yay.
Maybe we aren't totally ****ing doomed as a society.
Well, yeah, we are - but maybe we're not as close as I thought.
Oregon Tried To Silence This Engineer's Red Light Camera Research. Now Experts Say He Was Right All Along.
More than five years after Mats Järlström was threatened with fines for presenting data that challenged Oregon's red light camera program, his research has changed the way traffic engineers will calculate the timing of yellow lights.
The Institute of Traffic Engineers (ITE), an international group that publishes guidelines and best practices with an eye towards safety and mobility, published an update to its guidance for traffic signal timing last week. The new standard takes into account a wide variety of factors, including vehicle approach speeds, deceleration rates, intersection width, vehicle length, and more, according to an ITE statement announcing the changes. But Järlström's research—specifically, his "extended kinematic equation"—is cited as playing a key role in the ITE's updated yellow light timing formula.
That research never would have seen the light of day if the Oregon Board of Examiners for Engineering and Land Surveying had its way.
Järlström got on the board's bad side because he tried to challenge a traffic ticket given to his wife by a red light camera in Beaverton, Oregon, in 2013. He challenged the ticket by questioning the timing of the yellow lights at intersections where the cameras had been installed, using knowledge from his degree in electrical engineering and his experience working the Swedish Air Force and various technical jobs since immigrating to the United States in 1992. His research landed him in the media spotlight—in 2014, he presented his evidence on an episode of 60 Minutes—and earned him an invitation to present his findings to the ITE.
More than five years after Mats Järlström was threatened with fines for presenting data that challenged Oregon's red light camera program, his research has changed the way traffic engineers will calculate the timing of yellow lights.
The Institute of Traffic Engineers (ITE), an international group that publishes guidelines and best practices with an eye towards safety and mobility, published an update to its guidance for traffic signal timing last week. The new standard takes into account a wide variety of factors, including vehicle approach speeds, deceleration rates, intersection width, vehicle length, and more, according to an ITE statement announcing the changes. But Järlström's research—specifically, his "extended kinematic equation"—is cited as playing a key role in the ITE's updated yellow light timing formula.
That research never would have seen the light of day if the Oregon Board of Examiners for Engineering and Land Surveying had its way.
Järlström got on the board's bad side because he tried to challenge a traffic ticket given to his wife by a red light camera in Beaverton, Oregon, in 2013. He challenged the ticket by questioning the timing of the yellow lights at intersections where the cameras had been installed, using knowledge from his degree in electrical engineering and his experience working the Swedish Air Force and various technical jobs since immigrating to the United States in 1992. His research landed him in the media spotlight—in 2014, he presented his evidence on an episode of 60 Minutes—and earned him an invitation to present his findings to the ITE.
But the Oregon board said Järlström's research amounted to practicing engineering without a license. In a 2014 letter, the board told Järlström that even calling himself an "electronics engineer" and the use of the phrase "I am an engineer" were enough to "create violations" that could result in a $500 fine.