Chris0nllyn
Well-Known Member
Kinda, you did, yeah.
You may not have used the phrase "trampled rights", but you appear to be arguing that spouting out your political views during work is every American's God Given Right, regardless of what your employer has to say about it, and that any retribution or retaliation or consequences are an infringement upon that right.
If that's not what you're saying then perhaps you should rethink your conversational strategy - because that's what I'm getting out of your half of the conversation. And I'm normally as liberty-minded as you are, and I agree with you on most things.
What I've been saying is that he had the right to kneel. There's nothing in the rules saying he can't.
The team has every right to fire him, had he broken some rules. His employer obviously felt that he did not.
I would never claim that. But I would fire you immediately if your exercise of was disruptive, disrespectful, or...quite simply only because it pissed me off..and I CAN do that. All day..any day. ;-)
You sure can.
Then again, you aren't in any sort of capacity as Kaepernick's boss.
You of all people don't know the 1st doesn't apply to private companies. The NFL is a private company. They can shut you up anytime they want. And when it starts affecting their bottom line, they should have. Otherwise, I don't give a hoot what Kap does.
People still have a right to free speech and in the contract he signed, nothing stated he couldn't do what he did, which is why he wasn't fired.
The NFL had been losing viewers for some time and it certainly wasn't due to Kaepernick.
That's what the OP is about. Letting NFL #######s express their "rights" the customers/fans are tuning out. The NFL is a business not a political forum and if you owned a business and some of your employees outspoken political views were costing you customers you'd fire them in a nano second.
.....but it takes balls, not safe spaces to do that.
BTW you are about as much a Libertarian as I'm a Socialist.
But the NFL and his bosses didn't fire him because the 3 to 5 people who stopped watching football because some kid who doesn't vote kneeled during the anthem didn't affect their bottom line. Their ####ty commissioner and ####ty weekly lineups do that enough.
BTW my feelings are hurt.
So, how do you feel about Walmart telling their employees they can't say Merry Christmas to customers?
Be my guest. They are a private company. I think it's stupid, but I don't own Wal-Mart.
It's a contract between Wal-Mart and their employers. Just like the NFL and Kaepernick.
This is more akin to an employee wishing someone Merry Christmas, it going viral on Facebook or other social media in a bad way, and Wal-Mart saying "too bad, we aren't firing the employee"
I think we should go on for 15 pages of hypotheticals and assumptions made by people who have no ####ing clue who I am.