Russia ‘Collusion’ Story Is Blowing Up Like the Hindenburg

Ken King

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Midnightrider said:
If there is any truth to what fox and trump are saying, yes we need another one. I see nothing that connects the U one deal with the election. I’m not sure how muller gets from here to there. Appointing a separate SC would ensure that it was investigated AND it would take muller out of the loop, which would be important because trump and fox are suggesting that muller is somehow complicit.
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The same way he got to where he is with Manafort and Gates. If Mueller is conflicted on one Russian matter he should be conflicted on all Russian matters, right?
 
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Bird Dog

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Midnightrider said:
If there is any truth to what fox and trump are saying, yes we need another one. I see nothing that connects the U one deal with the election. I’m not sure how muller gets from here to there. Appointing a separate SC would ensure that it was investigated AND it would take muller out of the loop, which would be important because trump and fox are suggesting that muller is somehow complicit.
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How did he get from Russians to Manafort cheating on taxes in 2013?
 
PsyOps

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Bird Dog said:
How did he get from Russians to Manafort cheating on taxes in 2013?
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That's my question. The whole investigation was supposed to be about Russian collusion, and we get indictments on things someone did before Trump even put his hat in the race, AND aren't even remotely related to collusion.
 
Midnightrider

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Ken King said:
The same way he got to where he is with Manafort and Gates. If Mueller is conflicted on one Russian matter he should be conflicted on all Russian matters, right?
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That’s a big IF. I haven’t seen anything that indicates muller is conflicted other than trumps tweets.

PsyOps said:
That's my question. The whole investigation was supposed to be about Russian collusion, and we get indictments on things someone did before Trump even put his hat in the race, AND aren't even remotely related to collusion.
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It’s real simple. Manafort was trumps campaign manger. He was also part of the trump tower meeting with Russians. Manafort is being sued for owing 19M to a Russian oligarch. Looking into that relationship shows that he laundered millions and conspired aga8nst the USA.


Now one of you guys connect the dots from the election to the U1 deal. :yay:
 
PsyOps

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Midnightrider said:
It’s real simple. Manafort was trumps campaign manger. He was also part of the trump tower meeting with Russians. Manafort is being sued for owing 19M to a Russian oligarch. Looking into that relationship shows that he laundered millions and conspired aga8nst the USA.
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I get that. My question was mostly rhetorical; meaning, all this talk about collusion and this is what they come up with. If Manafort broke the law and he should be held accountable for that. All of these people so absolutely convinced that Trump conspired with the Russians to win the election, and calling for his impeachment for it, yet Meuller has yet to come to that conclusion. What do these people know that Meuller doesn't?
 
This_person

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PsyOps said:
I get that. My question was mostly rhetorical; meaning, all this talk about collusion and this is what they come up with. If Manafort broke the law and he should be held accountable for that. All of these people so absolutely convinced that Trump conspired with the Russians to win the election, and calling for his impeachment for it, yet Meuller has yet to come to that conclusion. What do these people know that Meuller doesn't?
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I just loved his answer - "Manafort was Trump's campaign manager", which honestly does show some poor decision-making on Trump's part..."He was also part of the Trump Tower meeting with Russians" - a completely legal meeting that had nothing to do with the outcome of the election, and could be a manufactured meeting based on the evidence we know [I don't know it is manufactured, but it sure makes sense]. Manafort allegedly owes money to a Russian. And? "Looking into that relationship shows he laundered millions and conspired against the USA" - allegedly. Apparently looking into a meeting in 2016 took them to 2002. I wonder what they'll bring up with respect to the Clinton tens of millions?
 
Midnightrider

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PsyOps said:
I get that. My question was mostly rhetorical; meaning, all this talk about collusion and this is what they come up with. If Manafort broke the law and he should be held accountable for that. All of these people so absolutely convinced that Trump conspired with the Russians to win the election, and calling for his impeachment for it, yet Meuller has yet to come to that conclusion. What do these people know that Meuller doesn't?
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I don’t see too many people calling for trumps impeachment or saying the he directly conspired to do anything.

As I said from the beginning, Let him investigate and if there are crimes, prosecute. Same goes for all of our politicians
 
PsyOps

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Midnightrider said:
I don’t see too many people calling for trumps impeachment or saying the he directly conspired to do anything.

As I said from the beginning, Let him investigate and if there are crimes, prosecute. Same goes for all of our politicians
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These are members of congress; people that took an oath to support and protect the constitution; yet they have so little understanding of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dm-F9IMxF0A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jN6YmgS9B4U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvnWM4kzIgw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-yosN7Cw80

And there tons of prominent Americans calling for his impeachment. Now I ask again, what do these people see that Meuller doesn't? If it's so clear Trump has committed high crimes and misdemeanors, wouldn't Meuller have found this by now?
 
Hijinx

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PsyOps said:
These are members of congress; people that took an oath to support and protect the constitution; yet they have so little understanding of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dm-F9IMxF0A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jN6YmgS9B4U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvnWM4kzIgw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-yosN7Cw80

And there tons of prominent Americans calling for his impeachment. Now I ask again, what do these people see that Meuller doesn't? If it's so clear Trump has committed high crimes and misdemeanors, wouldn't Meuller have found this by now?
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Mueller couldn't find his ass with either hand and a flashlight and help from Comey.
 
Midnightrider

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PsyOps said:
These are members of congress; people that took an oath to support and protect the constitution; yet they have so little understanding of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dm-F9IMxF0A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jN6YmgS9B4U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvnWM4kzIgw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-yosN7Cw80

And there tons of prominent Americans calling for his impeachment. Now I ask again, what do these people see that Meuller doesn't? If it's so clear Trump has committed high crimes and misdemeanors, wouldn't Meuller have found this by now?
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There are always a few crazies that jump straight to impeachment. I can’t answer for them.
 
PsyOps

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Midnightrider said:
There are always a few crazies that jump straight to impeachment. I can’t answer for them.
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I was just answering to your comment "I don’t see too many people calling for trumps impeachment". I gave you 4 examples from congress. Tons of figures on our TV talk shows, Hollywood, and prominent business owners are demanding his impeachment. Most of my liberal friends (yes, I actually have liberal friend) care calling for his impeachment.

I can't answer for these people either, except to say that their hatred for Trump runs so deep that it caused them to go insane.
 
Gilligan

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PsyOps said:
I was just answering to your comment "I don’t see too many people calling for trumps impeachment". I gave you 4 examples from congress.
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You could have posted hundreds of examples...because they are everywhere. Incessant and pervasive, since the day he was sworn in. MR suffers from conveniently timed episodes of dementia.
 
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Midnightrider said:
In other words ‘lock her up’ is just a campaign stunt. :shrug:
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Or "Before you embark on a journey of revenge, dig two graves." Confucious

"When critics sit in judgment it is hard to tell where justice leaves off and vengeance begins." Jones
 
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