Taxpayer dollars used to pay NFL teams to honor troops

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"Washington (CNN) Honoring U.S. troops at National Football League games should be done out of a sense of patriotism, not a quest for profit, says a bipartisan group of senators who are moving to ban the use of taxpayer dollars for the practice.

Sens. John McCain, R-Arizona; Jeff Flake, R-Arizona; and Richard Blumenthal, D-Connecticut, filed an amendment Thursday to the National Defense Authorization Act that bans the Department of Defense from spending taxpayer funds to honor American soldiers at sporting events.

In a statement, the senators said the National Guard paid NFL teams nearly $7 million for marketing and advertising contracts over the last three years, including $675,000 to the New England Patriots, which included the team's "True Patriot" promotion, in which the team honored Guard troops during home game half-time shows. Other activities paid for by the Guard included color guard ceremonies, American flag ceremonies and player appearances at local high schools.

Earlier this year, Flake uncovered public documents detailing marketing contracts between 2011 and 2014 totaling some $377,000 between the New Jersey Army National Guard and the New York Jets. The documents specify that the funds covered "Hometown Hero" salutes on the billboards at the stadium, tickets for veterans and their families to attend games, and costs of veterans attending kickoff events with Jets players.

New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie told CNN's Jake Tapper in May that the Jets should return the money to the National Guard.

Last month, McCain, the chairman of the Senate Armed Services, ripped wealthy NFL owners as "disgraceful" and "crass" for the practice and vowed to put an end to it in the annual defense bill now being debated. He took to the Senate floor Thursday to speak in support of the amendment.

"For many Americans, football is deeply patriotic and woven into the very fabric of our country's unique history and heritage, McCain said, noting that teams wear special camouflage uniforms and hold game day programming in the fall to honor service members.

"That is why I and so many other Americans were shocked and disappointed to learn that several NFL teams weren't sponsoring these activities out of the goodness of their own hearts, but were doing it to make an extra buck, taking money from the American taxpayers in exchange for honoring American troops." "
 

littlelady

God bless the USA
This story is over a month old. Yes, it is a misuse of tax dollars, but I am more concerned with a story that came out today about an IRS employee using identity theft to pilfer funds. There is so much waste of the dollars that Americans work hard for and hand over to our wonderful government to just piss away. What else is new?

Just adding this just because, and there is so much more if one is willing to listen.

http://www.foxbusiness.com/economy-...e-steals-325000-by-using-taxpayer-identities/
 
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rhenderson

Guest
Another example of Legislative overreach. $377,000 over a four year period is less than $100K a year. With all the TV/Radio exposure the military gets it probably the cheapest advertising the recruiters can purchase. In the all volunteer age, the services have to promote themselves to attract recruits. If the cheap publicity these contracts bring in is a waste of taxpayer dollars what do you call all the money spent on the direct advertising by the services?
 

merc669

New Member
The NFL needs to lose its tax free charity status and pay up like the rest of the major sports do in the US. Hopefully some of the petitions going around the internet and sites will help push Congress to do this. Its also pretty low when you have to pay someone to pay honor those who not only works for you in one of the branches of service but an added insult commercializing it. Corporations and Businesses should not need taxpayers dollars to honor those they should already be doing. Save the money and put it back into helping the troops returning home and fixing the substandard hospitals that the Vets have to tolerate along with ridding them of the money-hungry scum that runs and administers them.
 

Larry Gude

Strung Out
The NFL needs to lose its tax free charity status and pay up like the rest of the major sports do in the US. Hopefully some of the petitions going around the internet and sites will help push Congress to do this. Its also pretty low when you have to pay someone to pay honor those who not only works for you in one of the branches of service but an added insult commercializing it. Corporations and Businesses should not need taxpayers dollars to honor those they should already be doing. Save the money and put it back into helping the troops returning home and fixing the substandard hospitals that the Vets have to tolerate along with ridding them of the money-hungry scum that runs and administers them.

It's pretty amazing how big the NFL is, this symbol it has become of freedom and liberty and it has nothing to do with freedom and liberty; it's a monopoly. Too Big To Fail. Players don't have a boss. They have an owner. Coaches don't have a boss. They have an owner. He sits in the owners box and looks down on his property. That the 'owners' over see their property in such a way as they see it fit for the government to PAY them to promote their property is illustrative of how they view their property. And us.
 

MMDad

Lem Putt
It's a recruiting cost. They do a few of these, a bunch of kids see it and think "hey, maybe I should join!" Those football playing kids are already in decent shape, they are used to mindlessly taking orders and running seemingly pointless exercises, and they understand some level of teamwork. It's a small price to pay to recruit some cannon fodder to man our war du jour.

All of these recruiting expenses look and feel like a waste if you look at them too narrowly, but in reality getting the message across is the only way we can put enough people to volunteer to go to foreign lands and die. It's that or the draft. Take your pick. Or we could just stop fighting pointless wars that have no goal and go on forever.
 

MMDad

Lem Putt
"That is why I and so many other Americans were shocked and disappointed to learn that several NFL teams weren't sponsoring these activities out of the goodness of their own hearts, but were doing it to make an extra buck, taking money from the American taxpayers in exchange for honoring American troops." "

Damn those companies that don't just give away stuff for free!!!! After all, they have all the money they need, it's time to take it away and give it to those who have less. The only way we'll have social justice is to make everyone equally poor!!!! Damn you capitalist pigs!!!!
 

Baywatchv8

New Member
The NFL announced in Apr that it will file tax returns for fiscal year 2015 as a taxable entity.

The NFL needs to lose its tax free charity status and pay up like the rest of the major sports do in the US. Hopefully some of the petitions going around the internet and sites will help push Congress to do this. Its also pretty low when you have to pay someone to pay honor those who not only works for you in one of the branches of service but an added insult commercializing it. Corporations and Businesses should not need taxpayers dollars to honor those they should already be doing. Save the money and put it back into helping the troops returning home and fixing the substandard hospitals that the Vets have to tolerate along with ridding them of the money-hungry scum that runs and administers them.
 

Hijinx

Well-Known Member
It's a recruiting cost. They do a few of these, a bunch of kids see it and think "hey, maybe I should join!" Those football playing kids are already in decent shape, they are used to mindlessly taking orders and running seemingly pointless exercises, and they understand some level of teamwork. It's a small price to pay to recruit some cannon fodder to man our war du jour.

All of these recruiting expenses look and feel like a waste if you look at them too narrowly, but in reality getting the message across is the only way we can put enough people to volunteer to go to foreign lands and die. It's that or the draft. Take your pick. Or we could just stop fighting pointless wars that have no goal and go on forever.

You are exactly right. It's a bit of a shame that the NFL took credit for doing the right thing and we find they were paid to do it, but was it really wrong?

WEe all saw Dale Earnhart Jr, driving the National Guard car and we knew from scratch that the Guard was paying for that sponsorship.
That is the way it should have been for the NFL, but was it wrong to pay for the recruitment effort.
I don't think it was, it was just wrong to act like it was the NFL's idea.
 

Larry Gude

Strung Out
You are exactly right. It's a bit of a shame that the NFL took credit for doing the right thing and we find they were paid to do it, but was it really wrong?

Yes. Because it flies in the face of how they tried to present it. Had they said, all along, "Sponsored by you, the American people!" they not only would have gotten away with it but probably would have been handed blank checks.
 

Hijinx

Well-Known Member
Yes. Because it flies in the face of how they tried to present it. Had they said, all along, "Sponsored by you, the American people!" they not only would have gotten away with it but probably would have been handed blank checks.

So you have no problem with them taking the money you just do not like the way they did it.
That is pretty much how I feel.
 
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