Cowgirl
Well-Known Member
I'd think the laws would be hard pressed to side with someone when they can simply NOT go to the website.
The problem with cyber-bullying legislation
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I'd think the laws would be hard pressed to side with someone when they can simply NOT go to the website.
Larry Gude
Strung Out
I would impeach the first legislator who proposed this non sense. I would then have them hit with sticks and stones and then yelled at and called names, then repeat the process, over and over and over, until they figured it out.
mAlice
professional daydreamer
I don't think they own the server.
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Kain99
Guest
The entire forum, I'd imagine, is just as culpable in a public area as it is in a private area. In either instance, you're still providing them with the web space to commit the offense. That's the only reason someone would come after the forums owners anyway, not for their lack of moderating.
Speaking of fight club, I heard I got flamed in there again, pictures included. I hope it was at least funny this time
Black Francis has been posting pictures like crazy. Yep you were featured again Beta...
Well, we don't own the server - we rent it. So is our host now liable? And where does it stop? At what point should government butt out and make adults be responsible for their own actions?
And, considering how it goes on here, I'm curious how many of these famous cyber-bullying cases had the "victim" actually instigating it and egging it on? Because I know how people lose interest when it's no longer entertaining. And it's unlikely that people will keep on flaming after their target has disengaged.
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Kain99
Guest
The laws are silly but people are crazy! Since you own the forums I am not certain that you are ever released. Some of these people are nuts Vrai.
They will claim that you were made aware of the abuse and come after you and win.
It's just not worth it baby.
And there's no reason for you to post that other than to stir crap. Cyber-bully.
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Kain99
Guest
Lost me
The laws are silly but people are crazy! Since you own the forums I am not certain that you are ever released. Some of these people are nuts Vrai.
They will claim that you were made aware of the abuse and come after you and win.
It's just not worth it baby.
But, again, when they are instigating it and egging it on, and it's crystal clear in their posts, why should it be up to me to "protect" them?
Plus, you'd be surprised at what people consider rude or bullying or abuse or whatever. I keep all that stuff, too, so when some crazy wants to get legal with it, I can simply produce the posts in question.
Larry Gude
Strung Out
"Your honor, my wife hurt my feeling on the Internets."
"You only have one feeling? What'd she do?"
"She called me a stupid mother####er..."
"Let me see if I have this right; You're wife called you a 'stupid mother####er'. On the Internets. And you got a lawyer and a court date over this. And took time out of your life for all of this. And you want me to do something about it? Like what? Agree with her?"
"You only have one feeling? What'd she do?"
"She called me a stupid mother####er..."
"Let me see if I have this right; You're wife called you a 'stupid mother####er'. On the Internets. And you got a lawyer and a court date over this. And took time out of your life for all of this. And you want me to do something about it? Like what? Agree with her?"
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Kain99
Guest
That is really smart! Protecting yourself has to be number #1! It may be wise to irradicate repeat offenders.
Do yourself a favor and talk to an attorney before these laws take hold.
Beta84
They're out to get us
I would impeach the first legislator who proposed this non sense. I would then have them hit with sticks and stones and then yelled at and called names, then repeat the process, over and over and over, until they figured it out.
awesome
I was speaking in general terms I guess. I know these types of forums have admin who can view anywhere...but can restrict their own access. That's what I meant.
I don't know how much more of this I can take behind my back Exactly. Where does the liability end? You can argue that someone allowed it to happen and gave them the means to do it, but you can also argue that a car company isn't responsible for a driver's negligence in a car accident.
Black-Francis
New Member
"Your honor, my wife hurt my feeling on the Internets."
"You only have one feeling? What'd she do?"
"She called me a stupid mother####er..."
deja vu...........
puggymom
Active Member
Oh I agree with children being on a site like this more formatted for adults. I was talking about bullying that happens on things like myspace or facebook when they think someone is their friend.
UncleBacon
Active Member
but if you have a mpd in there and read everything that is being said about your other persona you really can't complain about being flamed
nachomama
All Up In Your Grill
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Black-Francis
New Member
good point
SamSpade
Well-Known Member
Cyber-bullying is only criminal when identities are KNOWN.
It's just crybaby tactics when you come on someplace, anonymously and get bothered by other people's behavior.
It's another when you're a teenager and someone posts embarassing personal material about you on the school or local website.
You know, we have SOMETHING akin to this on this website already - it's the site's fair use policy. You can post all you want, but if you quote from someone ELSE extensively, the SITE OWNER can just as easily get in trouble over it - because they allow it. We all recognize this rule.
If a site owner allows personal material to be floated about on their site that is an invasion of someone's personal nature and is not voluntarily given to the site - say, I decide to "out" someone without their permission - that's wrong and they should be able to take them to task over it. If such behavior has the sanction of the site owner, then they're also culpable.
This, at least, is my opinion on the matter.
I do not believe under any circmstances that you should be able to prosecute people for taunting or name-calling ESPECIALLY when everyone is anonymous.
It's just crybaby tactics when you come on someplace, anonymously and get bothered by other people's behavior.
It's another when you're a teenager and someone posts embarassing personal material about you on the school or local website.
You know, we have SOMETHING akin to this on this website already - it's the site's fair use policy. You can post all you want, but if you quote from someone ELSE extensively, the SITE OWNER can just as easily get in trouble over it - because they allow it. We all recognize this rule.
If a site owner allows personal material to be floated about on their site that is an invasion of someone's personal nature and is not voluntarily given to the site - say, I decide to "out" someone without their permission - that's wrong and they should be able to take them to task over it. If such behavior has the sanction of the site owner, then they're also culpable.
This, at least, is my opinion on the matter.
I do not believe under any circmstances that you should be able to prosecute people for taunting or name-calling ESPECIALLY when everyone is anonymous.