Will history repeat itself?
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Will history repeat itself?
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More specifically, those that "represent" "we, the people."
Baz
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What are you waiting for?
No, I doubt King George will be sending troops to Boston anytime soon.
philibusters
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Kind of hard to claim that when we elect them.
PsyOps
Pixelated
When 'you' have to ask the government for virtually everything, even to exercise the rights that you supposely were born with, you will know who 'they' are.
When 'you' have to worry about what is posted in this forum for fear of restibution, you will know who the 'enemy' is.
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I don't fear restibution.... I don't even know what it is.
Larry Gude
Strung Out
I thought we were supposed to fear the unknown?
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EmptyTimCup
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oh look all the forum MPD's are coming out
I guess...bad spellers of the world...untie!
You ostriches keep your head in the sand. Then you won't see it coming when your head gets lopped off.
Every law beyond that enabled by original intent of the Constitution is an attack on the rights of the citizens. Tyranny does not come all of a sudden. It comes one little bit at a time.
If you cannot see this is happening, you are blind.
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philibusters
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I don't think that really responds to my statement that you quoted. I said its tough to claim that it is a time for revolution where the political leaders we elect are electing are doing exactly what we are electing them to do for the most part. If enough voters believe in limited government that they will elect leaders who support limited government. To me there is a big difference between 1776 and now. Back then, the colonies were only a tiny bit complicit in the burdensome taxes and other unpopular acts like the Proclamation of 1763. Now the American people are complicit in the country's problems. Our leaders are doing pretty much what we elect them to do. If there is a revolution in 2012 it needs to be in the hearts and minds of the citizenry. If they change their values, they will elect new leaders that reflect those values. Look at Ron Paul sowing the seeds for his son and others with a similar philosophy.
See what? That a revolution is brewing? That Congress and President have enacted unconstitutional legislation and quasi-legislation (Executive Orders and Administrative Laws)?
For all the doom and gloom the U.S. is still in a pretty good position. We have the largest economy in the world and its not close. China is #2 and their economy is barely half the size of us (and they have three times as many people, meaning their per capita GDP is only 1/6th of ours). The U.S. is still the leading exporter of political and economic ideas. Among the hard conservatives there is a tendency to denigrate the present. There is a lot wrong with the present and its arguably that when it comes to economic might and ability to export ideas, the U.S. is on the downswing, but if its a decline is a slow decline. The problem that our leaders face are really complex and our leaders are handicapped by the democratic process to some extent--they always have to get re-elected. Its not a perfect world.
I mention it often, but my favorite political theorist is Eric Hoffer. Hoffer is more of a hero on the conservative side of the political spectrum though he does not neatly fit as a liberal or conservative. One of the observations Hoffer made way back in the 1940's is that people on both the extreme left and right tend to share a lot of common traits. And one of the traits they share is they denigrate the present and exaggerate how bad things are. Further they both in a future where complex problems go away when you apply an ideological formula to them. Hoffer called these people true believers. But it is so true... on the left, the rich are so evil, they exploit everybody, life is so unfair, the top 1% is spoiled and the remaining 99% lives tough lives. If the government would only fix these inequities the world would work much more harmonously. On the right, government is evil. When the housing market pops its the governments fault, when the economy goes into recession its the governments fault, when the divorce sky rockets its governments fault, when urbanization breaks up traditional family and small town life including moral values and sense of responsibility, its the governments fault. On the other hand government had nothing to do with all the success's the country had and and continue to have. Those were all the people and the people only accomplish them because the government got out of the way.
In the end, I not only don't believe there is a revolution coming, I don't think a revolution is morally justified because the voters got themselves the government they voted for. Our current leaders in my opinion are doing a pretty mediocre job. Not good, not bad. As crazy as it seems, they are facing pretty hard to solve problems and because they are mediocre they are make a little bit of progress solving them, but not a lot. That is the type of leader we elect though and its on us the voter, that things are the way they are.
Really? I guess that 13th, 14th and 19th amendment to the constitution thingy is all wrong huh?
itsrequired
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I hope the quick, and hurry up and take all the guns away from the nuts who espouse these ideas!
PsyOps
Pixelated
PsyOps
Pixelated
I have posted this a bunch on here, and will keep posting it until people get the message. Don't think the hibernating bear is really asleep: