U.S. ‘kidnapped’ missing Malaysia Airlines plane
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Larry Gude
Strung Out
Was not attacking your credibility. As I understand it, the pilots have oxygen for at least a little while.
MMDad
Lem Putt
They'd have to know exactly when and where that flight would be. Without their transponder on, they wouldn't have TCAS to show them where the other plane was. Imagine trying to find one particular plane using only your eyes, determine it is the right plane, and then tuck in behind it, all without them noticing you.
I could maybe see them doing that with a random flight that just happened to be passing by, but if you have a destination in mind you would be relying on a specific flight to be exactly on time and exactly on route, with no deviations at all. Too many variables.
MMDad
Lem Putt
Only if they can get it on before they pass out. Just like the passengers. Sudden decompression can make that pretty difficult.
Vince
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If they notice. I think Rose was saying the cabin pressure crept up very gradually. If the pilots were worth a crap they'd notice the change. If they couldn't keep a good cabin alt. go down to 10K and keep on flying. I'm thinking they took the aircraft somewhere. After all this searching and no one has found a trace? They hijacked it.
Misfit
Lawful neutral
Courtney Love has found it!
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/ente...iner-search-theories-20140318,0,3455592.story
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/ente...iner-search-theories-20140318,0,3455592.story
Everyone wouldn't have gone to sleep/died from suffocation had someone on the flight crew donned the O2 mask prior to reducing cabin pressurization. It would explain the climb to FL450 as useful consciousness is only about 10 seconds at that altitude and death would be within minutes. Then after just a few minutes pressurization could be restored and the flight continue as normal or do whatever they wanted it to do.
Larry Gude
Strung Out
I guess. just doesn't seem like the sort of thing you can much expect to get away with these days. Terror is one thing; the hijacking IS the goal. Stealing it?
MMDad
Lem Putt
It has very little value without a clean title. Every part with any value is serialized, so if they do show up on the black market it won't take long to figure out.
And possilbly use it as a terrorist weapon. :shrug:
Larry Gude
Strung Out
With our omnipotent surveillance capacity, drones, (not to mention our armed surveillance capacity) it just seems like an awfully unrealistic thing to think the plane could ever take off again and not be blown out of the sky minutes later. I mean, if it's in one piece it will, (I think already has been) found and from there, we certainly won't let is just take off again unless and until we've inspected it.
So, to me, either an emergency and it disintegrated, be it accident or terror or someone wanted to manipulate some event, flipped out or, hell if I know. If terror, no one seems to be putting that to use, no claims or threats or anything.
Seeming to me more and more like something went wrong and not in a nefarious way. :shrug:
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czygvtwkr
Guest
I can't see a Russian mobster, tin pot dictator, or equivalent wanting to use it as a private aircraft giving a damn about it having a clean title.
MMDad
Lem Putt
Why have it if you couldn't take it anywhere?
C
czygvtwkr
Guest
What exactly would prevent them from taking it anywhere?
MMDad
Lem Putt
The location of every one of them (except this one) is known. If an "extra" one shows up at LAX don't you think someone would notice? There are airplane geeks out there who track airliners as a hobby. http://www.planespotters.net/Production_List/Boeing/777/
In order to fly in Europe you need Mode S. For Mode S you need an address. To get an address you need to go to ICAO. They will want to know what aircraft it belongs to.
Suppose you call Boeing for a replacement part. They'll want to know which aircraft it's for so they can give you the right part for that configuration. What are you going to do, make up serial numbers?
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czygvtwkr
Guest
Could always be someone that already has one or that plans on "buying" one from one of those #### bag third world airlines that has the people in the seats hold a chicken in their lap during the flight.
Even as scrap an airliner is a nice chunk of change.
Larry Gude
Strung Out
It is beyond my comprehension that anyone, anywhere, could pick up a 777 and hope to operate and maintain it bought it in some back alley deal with no one the wiser.