What part of this is so hard to understand? It was laid out to you in simple, plain English.meelak said:
What is Islam?
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Hessian
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A quote from your source you cited against the moon worship issue:
"To begin with, the South-Arabian pantheon is not properly known. Its astral foundation is indisputable. As in most contemporary semitic cults, the southern Arabs worshipped stars and planets, chief among whom were the Sun, Moon and ‘Athtar, the Venus.[23] "
So..this Morey fellow finds statures with moons carved on them and then the interpretation becomes open-ended...
Later your scholars openly support the astral worship of the Arabians...
But of course none of this influenced Muhammed.
Don't shoot the messenger:
"Please don't regurgitate information without criticizing it. Thats being intellectually dishonest."
I didn't regurgitate: I introduced.
I didn't crticise it, you did...
I pointed out your scholars cannot discount the moon connect-in intellectual honesty.
What nothing to say regarding Muhammed's beheading practices?
"To begin with, the South-Arabian pantheon is not properly known. Its astral foundation is indisputable. As in most contemporary semitic cults, the southern Arabs worshipped stars and planets, chief among whom were the Sun, Moon and ‘Athtar, the Venus.[23] "
So..this Morey fellow finds statures with moons carved on them and then the interpretation becomes open-ended...
Later your scholars openly support the astral worship of the Arabians...
But of course none of this influenced Muhammed.
Don't shoot the messenger:
"Please don't regurgitate information without criticizing it. Thats being intellectually dishonest."
I didn't regurgitate: I introduced.
I didn't crticise it, you did...
I pointed out your scholars cannot discount the moon connect-in intellectual honesty.
What nothing to say regarding Muhammed's beheading practices?
I'd forgotten about this until Hessian just reminded me:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Satanic_Verses_(novel)
Yep, just some peace-loving Muslims. And that fringe element Ayatollah. And I'm sure that Timeline is all lies and distortions.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Satanic_Verses_(novel)
Yep, just some peace-loving Muslims. And that fringe element Ayatollah. And I'm sure that Timeline is all lies and distortions.
Hessian
Well-Known Member
Abdulhaqq cited this source earlier and yes...I did read it through-it was very enlightening (seriously: I enjoy a good archaeological discourse and assessment).
http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Quran/Sources/Allah/moongod.html
The author sure did some serious Homework...HOWEVER. I can't imagine that this anti-Morey polemic has a second side to it. It is an academic argument and I would love to see a debate between the two scholars but...under Islamic Law, there is to be no accomodation or discussion with those who have disparaged Allah so...we will only get barrage and counter barrage.
if Morey showed up to debate...there would be death threats against him just like Rushdie....
time to reform Islam.
http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Quran/Sources/Allah/moongod.html
The author sure did some serious Homework...HOWEVER. I can't imagine that this anti-Morey polemic has a second side to it. It is an academic argument and I would love to see a debate between the two scholars but...under Islamic Law, there is to be no accomodation or discussion with those who have disparaged Allah so...we will only get barrage and counter barrage.
if Morey showed up to debate...there would be death threats against him just like Rushdie....
time to reform Islam.
punjabigyrl
Active Member
Is it me or the discussion is going in circles. I keep seeing the question of "why the clerics not condeming terrorism?" and in my opinion have been answered throughly with links and all however, maybe put in another language might help.
Dear Forum Members,
Here is an excellent video.
Can You Be Texan and Muslim?
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9184353144432289069&q=islam
With Peace,
Abdulhaqq
Here is an excellent video.
Can You Be Texan and Muslim?
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9184353144432289069&q=islam
With Peace,
Abdulhaqq
Railroad
Routinely Derailed
abdulhaqq said:
You can be from anywhere and Muslim; you can be from anywhere and subscribe to any religion you want (in THIS country and a few others). But:
Jesus said to him, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me." - John 14:6 (emphasis added)
A good quote from an Indiana Jones movie: "You must choose, but choose wisely."
itsbob
I bowl overhand
Sharon said:I turned it off after it said, "Bible-bashing conservatives are turning Muslim."
ItsBob would be interested.
Someone call??
I'm not turning anything, and especially NOT muslim..
Imagine there's no heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today...
Toxick
Splat
willie said:
It's about steak-eating, football watching, pickup-truck driving, Texas-flag-waving, all american good-ol'boys (and gals) embracing islam and becoming muslim.
"Ah wanna sit close to MO-ham-id".
It's a fairly interesting video.
Although hearing a texan accent coming out of a burka was somewhat unsettling at first.