17th Century Prediction of Obama ???

[Starman3000m]

17th Century Shi'a Prediction of Obama

Commentary
Obama and Ahmadinejad
by Amir Taheri 10.26.08, 1:33 PM ET

(Excerpt)

"Is Barack Obama the "promised warrior" coming to help the Hidden Imam of Shiite Muslims conquer the world?

The question has made the rounds in Iran since last month, when a pro-government Web site published a Hadith (or tradition) from a Shiite text of the 17th century. The tradition comes from Bahar al-Anvar (meaning Oceans of Light) by Mullah Majlisi, a magnum opus in 132 volumes and the basis of modern Shiite Islam.

According to the tradition, Imam Ali Ibn Abi-Talib (the prophet's cousin and son-in-law) prophesied that at the End of Times and just before the return of the Mahdi, the Ultimate Saviour, a "tall black man will assume the reins of government in the West." Commanding "the strongest army on earth," the new ruler in the West will carry "a clear sign" from the third imam, whose name was Hussein Ibn Ali. The tradition concludes: "Shiites should have no doubt that he is with us."

In a curious coincidence Obama's first and second names--Barack Hussein--mean "the blessing of Hussein" in Arabic and Persian. His family name, Obama, written in the Persian alphabet, reads O Ba Ma, which means "he is with us," the magic formula in Majlisi's tradition."

Forbes.com - Magazine Article

Obama Wins, Muslims Divided - article by Daniel Pipes

 

[backagain39]

On election day the pick three number in the state of Illinois was 666.

Honest!!!

Weird stuff...............

 

[Bustem' Down]

17th Century Shi'a Prediction of Obama

Commentary
Obama and Ahmadinejad
by Amir Taheri 10.26.08, 1:33 PM ET

(Excerpt)

"Is Barack Obama the "promised warrior" coming to help the Hidden Imam of Shiite Muslims conquer the world?

The question has made the rounds in Iran since last month, when a pro-government Web site published a Hadith (or tradition) from a Shiite text of the 17th century. The tradition comes from Bahar al-Anvar (meaning Oceans of Light) by Mullah Majlisi, a magnum opus in 132 volumes and the basis of modern Shiite Islam.

According to the tradition, Imam Ali Ibn Abi-Talib (the prophet's cousin and son-in-law) prophesied that at the End of Times and just before the return of the Mahdi, the Ultimate Saviour, a "tall black man will assume the reins of government in the West." Commanding "the strongest army on earth," the new ruler in the West will carry "a clear sign" from the third imam, whose name was Hussein Ibn Ali. The tradition concludes: "Shiites should have no doubt that he is with us."

In a curious coincidence Obama's first and second names--Barack Hussein--mean "the blessing of Hussein" in Arabic and Persian. His family name, Obama, written in the Persian alphabet, reads O Ba Ma, which means "he is with us," the magic formula in Majlisi's tradition."

Forbes.com - Magazine Article

Obama Wins, Muslims Divided - article by Daniel Pipes

Well, do you believe in the Prophecies of Islam? If so then you should be worried, if you do not, then who cares.

 

[Starman3000m]

Well, do you believe in the Prophecies of Islam? If so then you should be worried, if you do not, then who cares.

Ironically, Islamic prophecies have a counter-part parallel to New Testament prophecies. The Mahdi and appearance of the prophet Isa' (Islamic Jesus) appear in the end times to establish peace on earth and make Islam the one-world religion. Get this - the Mahdi is only expected to reign for a period of seven (7) years.

New Testament prophecy indicates that the antichrist will have a false prophet as co-hort in the end times. Rule of antichrist: Seven (7) years.

Hmmm.... But, hey, let's see what happens, eh?

 

[Bustem' Down]

Ironically, Islamic prophecies have a counter-part parallel to New Testament prophecies. The Mahdi and appearance of the prophet Isa' (Islamic Jesus) appear in the end times to establish peace on earth and make Islam the one-world religion. Get this - the Mahdi is only expected to reign for a period of seven (7) years.

New Testament prophecy indicates that the antichrist will have a false prophet as co-hort in the end times. Rule of antichrist: Seven (7) years.

Hmmm.... But, hey, let's see what happens, eh?

Well, personally I don't buy into the prophecy thing and I'm sure we'll see election day again 8 years from now. If I'm wrong, at least I'll be out of the Navy and won't have to deploy for Armageddon.

 

[Starman3000m]

Well, personally I don't buy into the prophecy thing and I'm sure we'll see election day again 8 years from now. If I'm wrong, at least I'll be out of the Navy and won't have to deploy for Armageddon.

Actually, No one really knows the time anyway. Everything is speculation and the end-times have always been expected throughout the past 2000 years! lol

However, there are two obvious signs that will point to the coming of an antichrist system. When we see a peace-pact occur between Israelis and Palestinians and when we see the rebuilding of the Third Temple of God in Jerusalem. This will be accomplished in a spirit of "interfaith harmony" and is what the eucumenical council of churches has been striving to achieve.

It will only happen according to God's timing anyway - not man's.

Thank you for your service.

 

[sunmoonstars]

On election day the pick three number in the state of Illinois was 666.

Honest!!!

Weird stuff...............

Random balls bouncing around.....
Just like the rocks in your head....

 

[sunmoonstars]

Actually, No one really knows the time anyway. Everything is speculation and the end-times have always been expected throughout the past 2000 years! lol

However, there are two obvious signs that will point to the coming of an antichrist system. When we see a peace-pact occur between Israelis and Palestinians and when we see the rebuilding of the Third Temple of God in Jerusalem. This will be accomplished in a spirit of "interfaith harmony" and is what the eucumenical council of churches has been striving to achieve.

It will only happen according to God's timing anyway - not man's.

Thank you for your service.

NOW YOU...make sense.
Thank you.

 

[Highlander]

17th Century Shi'a Prediction of Obama

Commentary
Obama and Ahmadinejad
by Amir Taheri 10.26.08, 1:33 PM ET

(Excerpt)

"Is Barack Obama the "promised warrior" coming to help the Hidden Imam of Shiite Muslims conquer the world?

The question has made the rounds in Iran since last month, when a pro-government Web site published a Hadith (or tradition) from a Shiite text of the 17th century. The tradition comes from Bahar al-Anvar (meaning Oceans of Light) by Mullah Majlisi, a magnum opus in 132 volumes and the basis of modern Shiite Islam.

According to the tradition, Imam Ali Ibn Abi-Talib (the prophet's cousin and son-in-law) prophesied that at the End of Times and just before the return of the Mahdi, the Ultimate Saviour, a "tall black man will assume the reins of government in the West." Commanding "the strongest army on earth," the new ruler in the West will carry "a clear sign" from the third imam, whose name was Hussein Ibn Ali. The tradition concludes: "Shiites should have no doubt that he is with us."

In a curious coincidence Obama's first and second names--Barack Hussein--mean "the blessing of Hussein" in Arabic and Persian. His family name, Obama, written in the Persian alphabet, reads O Ba Ma, which means "he is with us," the magic formula in Majlisi's tradition."

Forbes.com - Magazine Article

Obama Wins, Muslims Divided - article by Daniel Pipes

Oh, Sh!t..

 

[Gwydion]

17th Century Shi'a Prediction of Obama

Commentary
Obama and Ahmadinejad
by Amir Taheri 10.26.08, 1:33 PM ET

(Excerpt)

"Is Barack Obama the "promised warrior" coming to help the Hidden Imam of Shiite Muslims conquer the world?

The question has made the rounds in Iran since last month, when a pro-government Web site published a Hadith (or tradition) from a Shiite text of the 17th century. The tradition comes from Bahar al-Anvar (meaning Oceans of Light) by Mullah Majlisi, a magnum opus in 132 volumes and the basis of modern Shiite Islam.

According to the tradition, Imam Ali Ibn Abi-Talib (the prophet's cousin and son-in-law) prophesied that at the End of Times and just before the return of the Mahdi, the Ultimate Saviour, a "tall black man will assume the reins of government in the West." Commanding "the strongest army on earth," the new ruler in the West will carry "a clear sign" from the third imam, whose name was Hussein Ibn Ali. The tradition concludes: "Shiites should have no doubt that he is with us."

In a curious coincidence Obama's first and second names--Barack Hussein--mean "the blessing of Hussein" in Arabic and Persian. His family name, Obama, written in the Persian alphabet, reads O Ba Ma, which means "he is with us," the magic formula in Majlisi's tradition."

Forbes.com - Magazine Article

Obama Wins, Muslims Divided - article by Daniel Pipes

Ok, no. Wrong. Baraka, not barrack, means "to bless". Hussein is a common name in the middle east as it means "handsome".

Its like saying Carl Bush means "To care for Bush" because you can switch a few letters around and get the same thing.

And the "O Ba Ma" thing is filled with failure as well. Its like saying my spanish friend Carlota has a lot or cars, because well, it can be changed to mean "A lot car".

But Im glad people have the time to look at this stuff.

So if yall are gonna take it this far, why not just make the reference to the real Baraka - Baraka (Mortal Kombat - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia) and tell us that Barack Obama is, in fact, a mutant Tarkatan hired by a japanese wizard to destroy Buddhism and will never serve another person besides himself on his attempt to destroy the world.

Hell, I think that right there makes a better story than the crap thats been posted about him. Be right back, contacting FoxNews

 

[lewis7lewis]

Your Wrong.

17th Century Shi'a Prediction of Obama

Commentary
Obama and Ahmadinejad
by Amir Taheri 10.26.08, 1:33 PM ET

(Excerpt)

"Is Barack Obama the "promised warrior" coming to help the Hidden Imam of Shiite Muslims conquer the world?

The question has made the rounds in Iran since last month, when a pro-government Web site published a Hadith (or tradition) from a Shiite text of the 17th century. The tradition comes from Bahar al-Anvar (meaning Oceans of Light) by Mullah Majlisi, a magnum opus in 132 volumes and the basis of modern Shiite Islam.

According to the tradition, Imam Ali Ibn Abi-Talib (the prophet's cousin and son-in-law) prophesied that at the End of Times and just before the return of the Mahdi, the Ultimate Saviour, a "tall black man will assume the reins of government in the West." Commanding "the strongest army on earth," the new ruler in the West will carry "a clear sign" from the third imam, whose name was Hussein Ibn Ali. The tradition concludes: "Shiites should have no doubt that he is with us."

In a curious coincidence Obama's first and second names--Barack Hussein--mean "the blessing of Hussein" in Arabic and Persian. His family name, Obama, written in the Persian alphabet, reads O Ba Ma, which means "he is with us," the magic formula in Majlisi's tradition."

Forbes.com - Magazine Article

Obama Wins, Muslims Divided - article by Daniel Pipes

Not this crap again just because it's in print dos'nt make it so.You need to grow up.

 

[Starman3000m]

Serious question, where does that come from?

This comes from the prophecy of the end-times period when a charismatic leader will gain the trust of millions throughout the world because he negotiates an agreement that brings "peace" to the Middle East situation.

This leader is described as the "antichrist" whose system rules for a period of seven (7) years. The first 3 1/2 years are "peaceful" and it will appear that finally the world's religions and all governments will be able to get along. However, at mid-point, the leader recovers from a deadly wound and engages in a total turnabout specifically against Jews, Christians and anyone else that does not abide by a One World System of Government and One World Religion that is set up. This is where the "mark of the Beast" prophecy will be instated and whereby people will not be able to buy nor sell unless they resign to this system and accept the mark.

The prophecy indicates that there will be two (2) individuals leading the chaos; the antichrist (political leader of the One World Gov't) and the false prophet who helps establish the One World Religion. They work together to lead a tyrannical rule on earth that ultimately seeks to destroy Israel and all Jewish culture and beheads those who place faith and belief in Jesus as Lord and Saviour.

At first, Orthodox Jews will believe this leader to be their awaited Messiah because during the first 3 1/2 years of the pseudo peace, the Jews will be given time to build the Third Temple of God in Jerusalem. There are plans in Israel right now whereby Jewish Priests are preparing to reinstate Temple worship and the architectural plans for the Third Temple are also prepared - ready for construction when the time is right.

Of course, this cannot happen at this point in history because of the religious crisis in the Middle East, but watch for the "peace-pact" that brings Jews and Muslims together and instills "interfaith harmony" and then you will know that the time is at hand.

 

[Toxick]

Serious question, where does that come from?

Book of Daniel. A veritable font of end-times prophecy.



And he will make a firm covenant with the many for one week, but in the middle of the week he will put a stop to sacrifice and grain offering;

He, being the anti-christ, and one week being a week of years.

 

[Starman3000m]

Book of Daniel. A veritable font of end-times prophecy.



And he will make a firm covenant with the many for one week, but in the middle of the week he will put a stop to sacrifice and grain offering;

He, being the anti-christ, and one week being a week of years.

Exactly!

And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate. (Daniel 9:27)

The Prophecy:

Part 1: First 3 ½ Years: Two Witnesses appear while the Holy City is controlled by Gentiles. Peace-Pact has allowed the Third Temple of God to have been built.

Revelation, Chapter 11, verses:

1: And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein.
2: But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.
3: And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.
4: These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.
5: And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.
6: These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.
7: And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.





Part 2: Second 3 ½ years, Antichrist makes an about-face to begin war against the saints after having killed the Two Witnesses:

Revelation, Chapter 13, verses:

3: And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.
4: And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?
5: And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.
6: And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.
7: And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.
8: And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
9: If any man have an ear, let him hear.

 

[hotcoffee]

Serious question, where does that come from?

 

[Gwydion]

Sounds like yall shuold kill yourselves to get on the tail of Haley's comet before Obama destroys us all.

 

[Beaver-Cleaver]

On election day the pick three number in the state of Illinois was 666.

Honest!!!

Weird stuff...............

The Nooz: 666 pays off in lottery - Weird news- msnbc.com

Oh noes, Maryland Lottery drew 6-6-6 once!

I should leave the Devil's State now...

 

[Starman3000m]

No i understand that its the End times, and the parables in the Book of Daniel. I'm trying to understand the ties to the Muslim faith.

It seems as if there is projection occuring, especially since Islam wasnt around when the Book of David was .... created.

Here's the projection:

1.) The antichrist system will be comprised of a One World Government/One World Religion - headed up by antichrist and false prophet;

2.) Islam is not just a religion but a socio/political rule with governance by Shari'a Laws;

3.) Islamic theology awaits their Messiah (al Mahdi) who will reign for seven years and be accompanied by the Islamic prophet Isa' (Islamic version of Jesus)

4.) Under this system, all people in the world will be required to accept a "mark" that represents the governing system.

5.) A "seal of the prophet" was seen as a birthmark on the Islamic prophet Muhammad when he was born. This signified to the astrologers of his time that he would be a world leader.

6.) At the time when antichrist recovers from a deadly wound (3 1/2 years into his 7 year rule) this individual will do an about-face and turn vengeance against Israel and Jews in an attempt to annihilate their existence.

7.) Christians will be targeted and included in the vengeance because of their faith in Jesus as being the Saviour & Son of God.

8.) Islamic theology (like Orthodox Judaism) teaches that it is blasphemous for one to believe that Jesus is the Son of God and proclaim faith in Him.

9.) Apart from Jews and Christians being targeted, all people who do not comply with receiving the "mark" and who refuse to worship the antichrist will not be allowed to conduct business trade of any kind - cannot buy or sell without the mark.

10.) Those who are targets of antichrist's vengeance will be greatly persecuted and beheaded for refusing to submit to the system and rule of antichrist.

11.) Beheading is one of the forms of punishment that Islamic Shari'a calls for whenever a person is an apostate or considered an enemy of Islam.

12.) Islamic ideology once ruled by tyranny and Muhammad commanded his followers to fight against all people until this world submits to faith in Al'lah and accepts him as being the "prophet of Al'lah".

13.) Muhammad commanded his followers to fight until the end of the world.

14.) We are at the point in history when Islam is attempting to make it resurgence as a world power - by striking terror in the hearts of the enemy of Islam.

15.) Islamic terrorism will not stop - it is too far advances and ingrained in many unsuspecting host countries who will continue to experience Jihadist attacks similar to 911/ and the recent Mumbai attacks.

16.) Fundamental Islam is not compatible with nor will make a compromise with any secular/democratic system unless it is for a period of short-term peace (called Hudna) and then peace pacts can be broken.

17.) Stay tuned for more news events of Fundamental Islamic groups murdering in the name of Al'lah.

18.) Fundamental Muslims see this present time in history as their moment to overtake the world.

19.) Fundamental Muslims have all governments on edge and in high security alert for where the next series of attacks will take place.

20.) Fundamental Muslims are doing a good job at training children and young adults to grow up with the intent to become "martyrs for Al'lah" and for the cause of Islam.

more to come...

 

[hotcoffee]

No i understand that its the End times, and the parables in the Book of Daniel. I'm trying to understand the ties to the Muslim faith.

It seems as if there is projection occuring, especially since Islam wasnt around when the Book of David was .... created.

Yeah that!

 

[Starman3000m]

Yeah that!

Regarding the Book of Daniel and The Prophets of God:
A prophet was given discernment to speak of future events that would occur - not necessarily in the time of their life but for occurrences at a much later time; that's why it's called prophecy!