Those tolerant Repugs in action

[Salvador]

'Filthy homosexuals': Michigan GOP leader Dave Agema's Facebook post sparks furor

Update: Agema tries to rally support as GOP, others blast Facebook post

GRAND RAPIDS, MI — Dave Agema, a former West Michigan state representative, faces calls for his resignation as Republican National Committeeman after he posted a Facebook article that calls homosexuals "filthy."

Agema, of Grandville, sparked a furor Wednesday after he posted to an article titled "Everyone Should Know These Statistics on Homosexuals" on his Facebook page.

The article, written by a "Frank Joseph, M.D.," purports homosexuals are promiscuous, riddled with sexually transmitted diseases and by and large are substance abusers.

It also alleges gay people are responsible for the spread of the AIDS virus in America, that "many homosexuals admit they are pedophiles" and that they are 100 times more likely to be murdered than "the average person."

The post, which only is viewable to Agema's Facebook friends, prompted swift blowback and calls for his resignation as a Michigan delegate to the Republican National Committee.

Republicans and Democrats both joined the chorus of critics, and even state Republican party leaders appeared to distance themselves from the matter.

'Filthy homosexuals': Michigan GOP leader Dave Agema's Facebook post sparks furor | MLive.com

 

[ylexot]

Republicans and Democrats both joined the chorus of critics, and even state Republican party leaders appeared to distance themselves from the matter.

Here's the thing...when a Democrat does something bad, it is only the Republicans who criticize them. When a Republican does something bad, both Democrats AND Republicans criticize them.

 

[Gilligan]

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The post, which only is viewable to Agema's Facebook friends, prompted swift blowback and calls for his resignation as a Michigan delegate to the Republican National Committee.

Republicans and Democrats both joined the chorus of critics, and even state Republican party leaders appeared to distance themselves from the matter.

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Wow. Would ya look at all those intolerant "Repugs" in action.

Wait....what??

 

[bcp]

I fail to see where its any more of an insult than calling the republicans bigots, or racists, or claiming that they want to put the black man back in the fields, or the women back in the kitchen and the Hispanics (no difference between legal and illegal) back on their own side of the border.

If republicans want to beat the democrats in name calling, they are really going to have to step it up.
You must be so proud to be a democrat..

 

[Lurk]

'Filthy homosexuals'

Ahem! University Compares Pro-Life Students to White Supremacists | RedState

 

[PsyOps]

You folks can't possibly believe these comments were wise? Are our standards really this low? We can point to the other side all day long, but if we're just as guilty.......... we're just as guilty.

 

[ylexot]

You folks can't possibly believe these comments were wise? Are our standards really this low? We can point to the other side all day long, but if we're just as guilty.......... we're just as guilty.

Who was defending the comments?

 

[PsyOps]

Who was defending the comments?

It was mostly a rhetorical question due to the lack of condemnation so far. I was kind of hoping to read comments about how stupid Agema's comments were. I find Agema's comments (if they’re true) pretty repugnant and counter intuitive to what the GOP has been claiming they represent.

It’s like the Mark Sanford story. The guy commits adultery, disappears to have a flaming affair, propagates a lie about his whereabouts, all which should break the trust voters have in the guy. Yet he was nominated. I’m really dumbfounded about where the minds of republicans are these days.

 

[ylexot]

It was mostly a rhetorical question due to the lack of condemnation so far. I was kind of hoping to read comments about how stupid Agema's comments were. I find Agema's comments (if they’re true) pretty repugnant and counter intuitive to what the GOP has been claiming they represent.

It’s like the Mark Sanford story. The guy commits adultery, disappears to have a flaming affair, propagates a lie about his whereabouts, all which should break the trust voters have in the guy. Yet he was nominated. I’m really dumbfounded about where the minds of republicans are these days.

He's already been slammed by the Republicans as indicated in the article posted in the OP. :shrug:

 

[PsyOps]

He's already been slammed by the Republicans as indicated in the article posted in the OP. :shrug:

Yes. I'm addressing folks in the forum. Spurring on discussion :shrug:

 

[Larry Gude]

Yes. I'm addressing folks in the forum. Spurring on discussion :shrug:

What of the GOP?

If we're the party of no adultery, no abortion, no gay marriage, then, it is time to slip into histories pages.

We can cry about the media some more but, those are THE issues the GOP makes news on because we've no news to make on other issues.

The economy?
Immigration?
The wars?
Entitlements?
Health care?
Wall Street?

What does the GOP have to say?

The neo cons had their say, lead the nation to disaster and now spend enormous energy not only deflecting blame but, insisting we stay the course.

The Anti Obamacare crowd are for government run health care. Just not his.

The national party is SILENT on guns.

We're pretty much for $100 oil and $4 gas.

We have the worst of both worlds on immigration.

We're pro Too Big To Fail

We're for more entitlements. Not less.

The ONE issue where a GOP'er has had much to say, presidential authority to assassinate US citizens on home soil, we're not even unified on that.

For whatever reason, Sandford has caught your concern. If I could see what that had to do with all the other issues we're wrong on, I guess I'd care but, being a limited government type, social issues just ain't at the top of my list nor does it have anything to do with the issues that are.

The party is adrift because we've no real differences with the D's that matter and the ones that don't matter, stick out like a sore thump.

No leadership.

:shrug:

 

[ylexot]

Yes. I'm addressing folks in the forum. Spurring on discussion :shrug:

Our discussion was Salvador lumping the entire GOP in with that idiot. The discussion you seem to want to have will be insanely boring. Here's how it will go:
ylexot: Agema is an idiot.
Gilligan: Agema is an idiot.
bcp: Agema is an idiot.
Lurk: Agema is an idiot.



Well, ok...bcp might not say that.

 

[PsyOps]

Our discussion was Salvador lumping the entire GOP in with that idiot. The discussion you seem to want to have will be insanely boring. Here's how it will go:
ylexot: Agema is an idiot.
Gilligan: Agema is an idiot.
bcp: Agema is an idiot.
Lurk: Agema is an idiot.



Well, ok...bcp might not say that.

Larry completely understood my point.

Please go read (if you haven't) my http://forums.somd.com/politics/267703-face-new-gop.html thread and answer why republicans continue to vote for these people? Mostly what I see in here is how insanely stupid democrats are. And I'm not too proud to admit I'm guilty. If the GOP is ever going to try to regain itself as the conservative party, it has to do it within. We need to start LOUDLY rejecting what's going on.

 

[Larry Gude]

Our discussion was Salvador lumping the entire GOP in with that idiot. The discussion you seem to want to have will be insanely boring. Here's how it will go:
ylexot: Agema is an idiot.
Gilligan: Agema is an idiot.
bcp: Agema is an idiot.
Lurk: Agema is an idiot.



Well, ok...bcp might not say that.

Huge numbers of GOP'ers nationwide; Agema speaks for me!

It gets NO press but, Evangelicals who spelled the difference between Dubbya and Gore and then Dubbya and Kerry, stayed away from Mitt because they consider Mormonism a cult. Period. As is their right.

Lots of GOP voters agree with the guys who think God has some sort of rape pregnancy thingy.

Lots of GOP voters think homosexuality is THE sin among sins.

My point is that social issues are not what ails this nation; socialism and neoconservatism are, be it Bush or Obama. That is an America Second Agenda, both of them. Maybe Obama is America Third or Fourth but, that's quibbling with which suicide is worse.

So, while the GOP is in disarray, it might be good to chart a new course, reaffirm really, for the GOP; limited government, pro America (call it isolationist if you must), pro small business, cheap energy, pro markets, on the odd chance that the party may rise again.

The large-est point is, absent that re-establishment of small government values and virtues, does it even matter if the party rises again? I say no because it's simply of a kind.

:shrug:

 

[PsyOps]

What of the GOP?

If we're the party of no adultery, no abortion, no gay marriage, then, it is time to slip into histories pages.

We can cry about the media some more but, those are THE issues the GOP makes news on because we've no news to make on other issues.

The economy?
Immigration?
The wars?
Entitlements?
Health care?
Wall Street?

What does the GOP have to say?

The neo cons had their say, lead the nation to disaster and now spend enormous energy not only deflecting blame but, insisting we stay the course.

The Anti Obamacare crowd are for government run health care. Just not his.

The national party is SILENT on guns.

We're pretty much for $100 oil and $4 gas.

We have the worst of both worlds on immigration.

We're pro Too Big To Fail

We're for more entitlements. Not less.

The ONE issue where a GOP'er has had much to say, presidential authority to assassinate US citizens on home soil, we're not even unified on that.

For whatever reason, Sandford has caught your concern. If I could see what that had to do with all the other issues we're wrong on, I guess I'd care but, being a limited government type, social issues just ain't at the top of my list nor does it have anything to do with the issues that are.

The party is adrift because we've no real differences with the D's that matter and the ones that don't matter, stick out like a sore thump.

No leadership.

:shrug:

 

[Larry Gude]

If the GOP is ever going to try to regain itself as the conservative party, it has to do it within. We need to start LOUDLY rejecting what's going on.

Not to reignite and old argument but, do current events validate my FULL STOP argument or, do you still see a path to turn this mess around gradually? I ask that sincerely because I do realize how traumatic FULL STOP would, will be, but, if anything, I grow more convinced that that is the ONLY hope we have.

Just as an example, a core value, the right to keep and bear, after a resurrection by the Heller decision, the court doing their part, is about to be washed away and the national party is SILENT. That is a core failure, in my view. There are no partial steps to be had, no gradual turn around when principles are that far gone. In my view.

I'd be happy to hear a better path.

 

[ylexot]

Larry completely understood my point.

Please go read (if you haven't) my http://forums.somd.com/politics/267703-face-new-gop.html thread and answer why republicans continue to vote for these people? Mostly what I see in here is how insanely stupid democrats are. And I'm not too proud to admit I'm guilty. If the GOP is ever going to try to regain itself as the conservative party, it has to do it within. We need to start LOUDLY rejecting what's going on.

Didn't you vote for Romney?

 

[PsyOps]

Didn't you vote for Romney?

Not in the primary; I voted for Paul. In the general I held my nose and voted for him. I knew it was a wasted vote regardless. I've been slammed for that, and probably rightfully so. I will never do it again.

 

[ylexot]

Not in the primary; I voted for Paul. In the general I held my nose and voted for him. I knew it was a wasted vote regardless. I've been slammed for that, and probably rightfully so. I will never do it again.

I didn't vote for McCain and I didn't vote for Romney. I've been walking the walk for years so forgive me if I don't feel the need to talk the talk.

 

[ylexot]

But you know what? I'm not a Republican any more anyway, so the party can go ahead and die a horrible death. I'll be waiting in the Libertarian party for everyone to come on over.