Voter fraud and other delusions

[tommyjo]

It seems our illustrious leader doesn't understand the difference between an outdated voter registration and voter fraud.

It seems our illustrious leader just can't get past the fact that he lost the popular vote by a wider margin than anyone this century. (54% to 46%) Btw...why is this still a thing? Our illustrious President is essentially now claiming that the election he won was rigged. Go ahead, dumbass, spend taxpayer dollars chasing your ego...maybe you CAN find a few thousand fraudulent votes in MI, WI, or PA!

It seems out illustrious leader doesn't understand that waterboarding is illegal.

Or maybe he does...because our illustrious "leader" said he would let his defense folks make the decision to use it or not. (That clinking sound you heard was the medals attached to the chests of generals who were just tossed under a bus.)

It seems our illustrious President doesn't understand than a memorandum does not create the funds to build the wall.

It seems our illustrious President doesn't understand that Mexico under no circumstance will be for said stupid wall.

It seems our illustrious President doesn't understand that a wall won't stop drugs.

It seems our illustrious President doesn't understand that there is no deluge, tidal wave or whatever term he used of illegal immigrants streaming across our borders.

It seems our illustrious President really doesn't get much, now does it?

 

[PsyOps]

And this from the same person running around claiming CONFLICT OF INTEREST, CONFLICT OF INTEREST with no evidence whatsoever



Our voter pools shouldn't require a president to demand an investigation into fraud. With any system where all Americans are potentially involved, there is always going to be fraud. Welfare comes to mind. Voters pools should require routine audits. This would at least minimize fraud, as well as put REAL voters' at ease about fraud.

 

[SamSpade]

It seems our illustrious leader doesn't understand the difference between an outdated voter registration and voter fraud.

It seems our illustrious leader just can't get past the fact that he lost the popular vote by a wider margin than anyone this century. (54% to 46%) Btw...why is this still a thing? Our illustrious President is essentially now claiming that the election he won was rigged. Go ahead, dumbass, spend taxpayer dollars chasing your ego...maybe you CAN find a few thousand fraudulent votes in MI, WI, or PA!

It seems out illustrious leader doesn't understand that waterboarding is illegal.

Or maybe he does...because our illustrious "leader" said he would let his defense folks make the decision to use it or not. (That clinking sound you heard was the medals attached to the chests of generals who were just tossed under a bus.)

It seems our illustrious President doesn't understand than a memorandum does not create the funds to build the wall.

It seems our illustrious President doesn't understand that Mexico under no circumstance will be for said stupid wall.

It seems our illustrious President doesn't understand that a wall won't stop drugs.

It seems our illustrious President doesn't understand that there is no deluge, tidal wave or whatever term he used of illegal immigrants streaming across our borders.

It seems our illustrious President really doesn't get much, now does it?

Doesn't matter about voter fraud - you may think this is an obsession - but the truth is, only a Republican president is going to address voter fraud. Might as well deal with it NOW, because in the future when God forbid we have another Democrat president - they won't touch it either.

EVERYONE knows there's voter fraud. Both sides acknowledge it. It's not disputed. The extent is what IS disputed, but Democrats don't want to investigate voter fraud at all - UNLESS it's something like Kerry losing in 2004. THEN it becomes important. When you have more votes in a county than registered voters, you don't need to PROVE it happened - you just need to investigate and take measures that it can't happen again.

Make no mistake - a fraudulent vote invalidates YOUR vote. YOUR vote is taken from you when someone votes illegally.

he lost the popular vote by a wider margin than anyone this century. (54% to 46%) Utterly false - just about the biggest falsehood you've ever written here. Care to amend your claim with facts? Maybe some alternative facts, otherwise known as the truth?

As I understand it - waterboarding has been declared *totally effective* by those in the military who would know. And its legality is a matter of decision which has and can be changed.

A wall WILL curtail the influx of drugs - just as no wall or minimal enforcement at the border keeps it higher.

The "tidal wave" is a matter of opinion - it should never have begun. Just because someone is beating the crap out of 3 days a week instead of 6 doesn't make it acceptable.

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Life really just sucks for you, doesn't it? Years on this board, and you rarely START posts. Now - they're daily.

By the way - since you admonish us so often for ignoring things like favorable job reports - how come *NOTHING* about the stock market yesterday? Or any day since the election?

 

[nutz]

It seems our illustrious leader doesn't understand the difference between an outdated voter registration and voter fraud.

It seems our illustrious leader just can't get past the fact that he lost the popular vote by a wider margin than anyone this century. (54% to 46%) Btw...why is this still a thing? Our illustrious President is essentially now claiming that the election he won was rigged. Go ahead, dumbass, spend taxpayer dollars chasing your ego...maybe you CAN find a few thousand fraudulent votes in MI, WI, or PA!

It seems out illustrious leader doesn't understand that waterboarding is illegal.

Or maybe he does...because our illustrious "leader" said he would let his defense folks make the decision to use it or not. (That clinking sound you heard was the medals attached to the chests of generals who were just tossed under a bus.)

It seems our illustrious President doesn't understand than a memorandum does not create the funds to build the wall.

It seems our illustrious President doesn't understand that Mexico under no circumstance will be for said stupid wall.

It seems our illustrious President doesn't understand that a wall won't stop drugs.

It seems our illustrious President doesn't understand that there is no deluge, tidal wave or whatever term he used of illegal immigrants streaming across our borders.

It seems our illustrious President really doesn't get much, now does it?

http://www.u-s-history.com/pages/h916.html

 

[Gilligan]

Poor, poor TJ. You should just start drinking earlier and take the rest of every day off.

 

[vraiblonde]

It seems our illustrious leader doesn't understand the difference between an outdated voter registration and voter fraud.

It seems our illustrious leader just can't get past the fact that he lost the popular vote by a wider margin than anyone this century. (54% to 46%) Btw...why is this still a thing? Our illustrious President is essentially now claiming that the election he won was rigged. Go ahead, dumbass, spend taxpayer dollars chasing your ego...maybe you CAN find a few thousand fraudulent votes in MI, WI, or PA!

It seems out illustrious leader doesn't understand that waterboarding is illegal.

Or maybe he does...because our illustrious "leader" said he would let his defense folks make the decision to use it or not. (That clinking sound you heard was the medals attached to the chests of generals who were just tossed under a bus.)

It seems our illustrious President doesn't understand than a memorandum does not create the funds to build the wall.

It seems our illustrious President doesn't understand that Mexico under no circumstance will be for said stupid wall.

It seems our illustrious President doesn't understand that a wall won't stop drugs.

It seems our illustrious President doesn't understand that there is no deluge, tidal wave or whatever term he used of illegal immigrants streaming across our borders.

It seems our illustrious President really doesn't get much, now does it?

If it were a Democrat doing these things, you'd bee jumping for joy and calling any rightie who complained a bunch of mean names.

Voter fraud has been a topic for years. Only in the last couple of days has anyone said there's no such thing, and the only people saying it are delusional Trump haters and their parrots.

I'm guessing from your post that you *want* illegal immigration, a flourishing drug trade, unfettered terrorism, and just any ol' one voting in our elections. Well, you can't have it. We won.

 

[Dontel58]

Being that your points aren't valid why do waste your time commenting? The 54% to 46% is laughable, you need to do a little research. We need to investigate voter fraud and all states must require ID to vote!!! Why do you people on left have a problem with that? We need to protect our border period with physical and virtual defenses.

 

[PsyOps]

Being that your points aren't valid why do waste your time commenting? The 54% to 46% is laughable, you need to do a little research. We need to investigate voter fraud and all states must require ID to vote!!! Why do you people on left have a problem with that? We need to protect our border period with physical and virtual defenses.

They have a problem with it because it ruins their chances of getting illegals and dead people to vote. They're so obvious it's almost funny.

 

[Larry Gude]

They have a problem with it because it ruins their chances of getting illegals and dead people to vote. They're so obvious it's almost funny.

Obviously, there is SOME voting fraud. However, someone claimed that it's only gonna be fixed by Republicans and that's a hoot. Nixon was robbed in 1960 and did nothing about it. Reagan? Bush 41? Nada. No congressional help? Fair enough. How about Dubbya who nearly lost Florida when precincts that had voted at something like 60-65% voter participation for our first black president, Clinton, cranked up to 80-85% for a guy they could care less about, Gore. Dubbya had congress.

If Trump gets anything done when BOTH parties aren't interested, that may be his greatest achievement

As for the wall, it's absurd to claim it's going to have any effect on drugs other than to make them more profitable and more worth the corruption and violence. Trump will gt Mexico to pay for the wall, sooner or later BECAUSE he's going to be helping them, perhaps the most corrupt government in the world, make more money in the drug and human trafficking trade. Trump's guy already said the wall won't work because it doesn't address the key issue: motivation. Trump, as a business guy, knows this inside and out; supply and demand. So, fans of the wall, the drug lords thank you. So do the lawyers, crooked judges and cops and the jail system.

And this doesn't address how he's gonna put up a wall on private land. Given we know his affection for eminent domain laws, we can take a guess at it.

 

[This_person]

We can't catch much in the way of voter fraud, because we have very few areas that have effective means of controlling who votes. Between absentee ballots and lack of voter ID, pretty much anyone can vote anywhere anytime they want with just a little bit of information about who they are impersonating. This is very similar to the president's BC question - we don't know who is or is not qualified (IAW the constitution) for president, because we don't do a damned thing to verify a candidate meets the legal qualifications.

The popular vote is not in the constitution. The popular vote was not even a thing in the first elections. The constitution was never modified to show a popular vote. To challenge the electoral college vote, one must challenge the constitution. Please, be my guest. However, all of the discussions about it are meaningless, as the vote is handled by the various states, as it should be in our form of government. We don't even handle the popular vote per state the same way in each state (and shouldn't), so it really is a meaningless discussion.

If you do not believe drugs come over in many ways - one of them being directly carried over our border illegally, then I would say it is not the president that does not get it. However, given Mexico's draconian illegal immigration laws, it would seem to me to be in their interest to have the wall - except it would be on their southern border, not ours. Like us, they have little problem with people fleeing from the north into their lands, but they have a problem on their southern border. Certainly, a wall is not the key to success in controlling our borders, nor will it end even most of the problems of illegal immigration. It does, however, send a message, and is one tangible method of stopping-up some holes in our system, and therefore seems like a no-brainer to me. After all, the law was passed a long time ago, before Obama let alone Trump, to build the wall. It's just never been funded. I have no reason to believe Trump thinks the "memo" as you called it will actually begin work, but I strongly suspect he understands the difference in how to communicate priorities and how to fund projects, so I'm not worried about that one.

 

[SamSpade]

Nixon was robbed in 1960 and did nothing about it.

Yeah, eight years later and only a plurality of the vote - and a hostile Congress.
As my Dad used to say, that'd go over like a fart in church.

Maybe the Republicans won't do anything - but they're the only ones who claim to want to do something about it.
Kind of like small government and cutting spending - maybe they do a bad job of it - although they have at times - but their opponents aren't interested in it AT ALL.

Half-measure - or no measure?

We have much better technology to do these than fifty years ago and it's about time we attempted to deal with it.

 

[GURPS]

I will repeat myself again:


In California - you get a Drivers License - you get Registered to VOTE
NO Distinction is made on the Drivers License that the holder is an Illegal Immigrant, and dis-bared from voting.

since illegals hold a VALID State ISSUED License there is no way to tell which Hispanics voting were illegal and which ones were citizens


and OBAMA Specifically encouraged Illegals to VOTE in the last election

 

[PsyOps]

As my Dad used to say, that'd go over like a fart in church.

I did that once. I was forgiven.

 

[SamSpade]

I did that once. I was forgiven.

Well, at least you're in the right PLACE.

 

[SamSpade]

I will repeat myself again:


In California - you get a Drivers License - you get Registered to VOTE
NO Distinction is made on the Drivers License that the holder is an Illegal Immigrant, and dis-bared from voting.

since illegals hold a VALID State ISSUED License there is no way to tell which Hispanics voting were illegal and which ones were citizens


and OBAMA Specifically encouraged Illegals to VOTE in the last election

But if that is the case - there's almost no chance of finding out who voted illegally.
They'd have to have data on who is illegal but still has a license. If that data doesn't exist, the story ends right there.

 

[vraiblonde]

Why are illegal immigrants getting drivers licenses in the first place?

 

[GURPS]

Why are illegal immigrants getting drivers licenses in the first place?

the thought is:

.... at least if we allow them to get licenses they will have car insurance


at least, IIRC, that was the excuse given in MD when the idea was discussed or passed - I forget which

 

[Larry Gude]

the thought is:

.... at least if we allow them to get licenses they will have car insurance


at least, IIRC, that was the excuse given in MD when the idea was discussed or passed - I forget which

It was a big deal in, IIRC, the NY senate race between Hillary and Lazio. Hillary was making the case that illegals are reality and that it helps society if we at least allow them drivers licenses which would mean they've taken driver training and are engaged in citizenship at least on that level. Lazio shot back that she was trying to pave the way to citizenship to which she said "That's absurd! I'm not trying to pave the way to citizenship. I'm simply in favor of them engaging in citizenship. TOTALLY different!"

From a practical standpoint, given illegals were and are here and are working and need transportation, it is a reasonable concession especially when you accept no one is going to do anything about it anyway.

 

[GURPS]

From a practical standpoint, given illegals were and are here and are working and need transportation, it is a reasonable concession especially when you accept no one is going to do anything about it anyway.

ok, but that does not stop them from voting in an election ....

 

[vraiblonde]

.... at least if we allow them to get licenses they will have car insurance

What lamebrain thought that up?