If you have been hurt I can refer you to someone who can help you. If you are just repeating what you hear in mainstream media cause you're out of thoughtful statements, I 'll let the volley end.MMDad said:
in 1. You say you have a voice as a citizen in whether or not a parent has their child with them on the side of the road. That is the entire purpose for the sidewalk, a safe place for pedestrians.crabcake said:There are two different perspectives from which I derive my response.
1) Do I agree it's appropriate for those kids to be out there? No, I don't. Why? Because it's unsafe for children that young to be on the side of the road. That's the 'common sense' part of it and that's the part that I do think I have a voice in ... as a citizen, as a parent and a driver. There's no rationale reason for children to be on the side of a busy road -- period!
2) Do I think it's appropriate for 6-7 year olds to be involved in an abortion protest (let's say in a park near a church or something)? No, but that's for those kids' parents to decide. And I'm not going to tell them what they should/shouldn't brainwash their kids with, so long as they don't take thatto school and discuss it with other kids. :shrug:
What's so hard to understand about that?
You should go to the police to help others from getting hurt as well. Don't make excuses that nothing will be done about it... that is another reason I was on the side of the road because of women I know who have had horrible things happen to them then to "fix it" the most horrible choice was made which only made things much worse for them in hindsight... these are their words though not mine. I just understand the trauma of post abortion sydrome AND want the innocents spared.camily said:
The difference is the purpose for which they are there.kingpl2 said:
They're not walking the family dog; they're not crossing the street to catch the bus. They're there to distract passersby in an effort to attract attention to their cause, which, in essence, is a danger to not only yourself, but your kids and those on the road. We have enough to do driving a car with watching the street signs, other drivers, traffic lights, etc. We don't need our attention diverted by a bunch of morons with their kids clogging up the sidewalk waving signs.
Correct I have not had an abortion (yes I have other faults). If you love someone you feel the pain they feel. Then your read about it to try to help them, then you realize you are powerless and must rely on Him as well as professional help in many cases. I am unable to explain why we feel the pain of those we love, are you? To say I know nothing of the trauma is not correct. I don't have to have my leg cut off, to know it hurts either.. BTW I do realize half of those reading this have had some involvement in one statistically speaking..The object is not condemnation but rather coping after facing the truth and beginning the road to forgiveness and healing..Nickel said:
No, you witness it. I wouldn't dare to trivialize someone else's pain by saying that I, someone who has never walked in their shoes, "understand" it.kingpl2 said:
No, you don't. But to say you understand it is being pompous. Could you describe every single excruciating detail, from the time the blade enters the leg until the leg stops hurting? Probably not. And that my friend, is the difference between witnessing and understanding. I'm not saying you have to understand someone's pain to help them through it, you only have to acknowledge it. But presuming that you know their pain when you don't makes you a pompous ass.
You know, I really didn't want to go there, but when some people try to hide behind the "I'm a Christian and always right" belief it really pisses me off. I am a Christian and really, it gives us a bad name. By no means do I know everything and the only way to learn and grow is through an open mind. Anyone, Christian or nonchristian, republican or democrat whatever the situation is that follows a specific group without question, taking their beliefs or opinions as there own without first thinking things through and gathering all the facts in the worst kind of ignorant. I only shared to get the point accross that all is not always as it seems by the outward appearance, as I know firsthand.MMDad said:
