A lost officer and some perspective

[itsrequired]

However much I want to respond to this LT (I might be wrong on the LT, but this looks like your writing style) I must remain in a position so as not to compromise the integrity of your agency and the men and women who work so hard everyday to protect us. To place all of that information on the internet would be careless. People can go to case search or the court house and pull the lawsuits filed under the Maryland Freedom of Information Act. (make sure they check Federal Court in Greenbelt as well) I never said under this administration as well. I just said lawsuits filed. What is in the dark will always be brought to the light. It's not my fight to win. All I can do is support all the deputies as best as a citizen can !!!

So my original point is CALL THE SHERIFFS OFFICE AND GIVE GREAT COMPLIMENTS TO THESE DEPUTIES AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE...

You never said about this administration but your critiques are about this administration. (You are wrong an my title too, but that isn’t surprising) Your answer is expected. You can’t put up so shut up.

You talk about reading over fifty investigations, but unless you work for the attorney who represents us, that’s just bunk! Those investigations are not available to the public. You are a liar. Plain and simple. You challenge me to debunk what you’re saying and I believe I did. You can’t give me the names of these people even in a pm because you want to compromise the integrity of the agency, yet you make criticisms of what the agency is doing.

 

[Foxhound]

I admit I am a little lazy, so I did not read through the whole thread. If I repeat anything that was said I apologize for it ahead of time.

1. Thank you all current and former Law enforcement personnel.

2. When I see an officer or hear someone is an officer I make a point to thank them.

3. I even thanked one when I received a ticket for exceeding the posted limit. (I only hope he did not think I was being sarcastic. I was totally sincere.)

4. I extend this thank you to all current and former firemen/paramedics, servicemen, and teachers.

5. Great thread.


There are bad people in every walk of life but it takes a certain person to chose any of the aforementioned careers.

 

[bcp]

There are bad people in every walk of life but it takes a certain person to chose any of the aforementioned careers.

Not a drive to or from work down the beltway goes without my wanting to be a police officer so I can target the cell phone talking, shoulder driving VIPs in the BMWs and Lexus.

 

[Roman]

@ ChesBchSportsmn

1) OK before you get on here and start talking know your facts !!! There was only one victim that was the Police Officer who was shot sitting in his patrol car. The other individual was the suspect who cowardly took his own life after killing a cop...

2) Marijuana is illegal... So if you get arrested so be it ! A Crime is a Crime is a Crime ! If you want to complain about people getting locked up for "petty crimes" such as Marijuana write your legislators. California's Citizens did and so did DC and now they have their version of "Prescription Marijuana".

3) I am not kissing ass. I was a cop for a very long time. I have been there and done that. I know what it is like to get kicked, punched, spit on, cursed at, hurt, injured, lose friends in the line of duty, watch citizens die from evil people, and most of all deal with ignorant people who think they know my job.

4) you say marijuana is a simple crime. Well take a look at the bigger picture of the dealer that is making the money that has the guns that this person just bought it from it is a vicious circle. Most ordinary citizens don't think of the big picture.

5) Sure it sucks to get locked up. I don't know a single person that wakes up and says "Man I want to go to jail today ! "

6) you are tired of hearing how short handed police departments are... well guess what hear it again.... THEY ARE !!!!!!!!!!!! and because they are short handed, officers lose their lifes trying to keep people like you safe. It's not about how much time they so called waste (by your uneducated opinion) locking people up for "petty" offenses its called they need BACKUP to deal with the thousands of calls for service they deal with so they don't need to go on a Domestic by themselves and risk losing their life (btw DOMESTICS ARE THE SECOND MOST DANGEROUS CALL FOR SERVICE AN OFFICER CAN GO ON).

7) I am not implying there needs to be more than needed on the street I am simply saying that the numbers here are not sufficient for the safety of these deputies.

8) Also most deputies in St Mary's are scheduled to go to court when they are already working so there is no overtime for court in that aspect !! (ONCE AGAIN GET YOUR FACTS FIRST)

When I was in Law Enforcement, the Domestics were the number ONE Dangerous Call. What is number one these days?

 

[Foxhound]

BCP, First of all you fall into the former of one of these professions. Second there is a whole lot more to the job than getting the general idiots off the road.

 

[foodcritic]

Yes, illegally obtained prescription drugs get sold for "lots of money," opposed to when they are obtained legally. You are still fueling my argument, which is that the black market/organized criminal activity related to marijuana exists only because marijuana is illegal. I don't use the stuff and I haven't for years. Still, I get tired of all the tax dollars and resources getting used to enforce laws against it which shouldn't exist in the first place and are counter-productive to the problems associated with its underground in my mind.

This is nonsense. Legalizing marijuana does not take away the demand. Cigarettes, alcohol all have black markets. I would bet that most dealing in marij are dealing presc. Meds.

 

[itsrequired]

I beg to differ. I have known people to get into law enforcement, and MOST of them had very big egos. Some of them were even control-freak @ssholes. Getting a job in which you can utilize control over people with a gun and a badge is an excellent way to become a professional @sshole. Fortunately, they are not all like this, but many are. So, get off that "it's a calling" crap and stop shoving your nose up their @sses. Your nose is already brown....

Couldn't get hired huh? Good call on which ever department turned you down.

 

[foodcritic]

When is the last time you heard about "violence" or corrupt law enforcement related to cigarette or alcohol sales? I don't mean any disrespect, but you don't seem to be too bright.

I know I am not to bright...

8 NYPD Cops Charged With Gun Trafficking, Cigarette Smuggling: Gothamist: New York City News, Food, Arts & Events

 

[itsrequired]

Ha! I like how when someone criticizes you you assume they are disgruntled. Get real. I have never even thought about becoming a cop.

I have never said that someone who criticized me is disgruntled. Sure you haven't. If that were true, the only reason would be because of the drug test you know you'd never pass.

You talk a lot about cops on here, but almost all of your information is bogus. Have a nice day.

 

[itsrequired]

Wrong again. I don't use illegal drugs of any kind, and I haven't in many years. By the way, my line of work required a drug test too.

Sure you do.

 

[Pride4369]

You never said about this administration but your critiques are about this administration. (You are wrong an my title too, but that isn’t surprising) Your answer is expected. You can’t put up so shut up.

You talk about reading over fifty investigations, but unless you work for the attorney who represents us, that’s just bunk! Those investigations are not available to the public. You are a liar. Plain and simple. You challenge me to debunk what you’re saying and I believe I did. You can’t give me the names of these people even in a pm because you want to compromise the integrity of the agency, yet you make criticisms of what the agency is doing.

Well that is to bad really thought you would have been command they way you were talking and writing! They don't have to be public! I don't have to
Say much more! Difference is I don't have to put up or shut up, but at somepoint you have to because your policy says so!! Lol ! Like I said it will all come out in due time. Then you can sit there and just shake your head!

 

[itsrequired]

Well that is to bad really thought you would have been command they way you were talking and writing! They don't have to be public! I don't have to This really illustrates how little you know about the sheriff's office. Commanders are not Lieutenants, they are Captains.
Say much more! Difference is I don't have to put up or shut up, but at somepoint you have to because your policy says so!! Lol ! Like I said it will all come out in due time. Then you can sit there and just shake your head!

No, there is nothing in my policy which prohibits me from exercising my freedom of speech. I just can't represent my agency when doing so. You really are lost with all this aren't you. Civil tort actions are public record. You can't put up, because there aren't any. If you know someone who has given you fifty investigations, it explains a lot as to why you are speaking for some disgruntled person. If they have had fifty investigations under this adminstration, (again that is who you are directing your comments at) then there is likely a problem with that person. More likely however you are just talking from the wrong side of your person.

 

[Pushrod]

Unfortunately they do not have a union in St Mary's County!! They have the FOP but that is a joke and a half... They do not have collective bargaining down here so pretty much they are SOL and regardless of LEOBR rights if they want to find a way to get rid of you they will (That goes for all agencies that do not have collective bargaining)

Which is one of the reasons we have such a highly thought of and professional Sheriffs office. A union would destroy that.

 

[Pride4369]

No, there is nothing in my policy which prohibits me from exercising my freedom of speech. I just can't represent my agency when doing so. You really are lost with all this aren't you. Civil tort actions are public record. You can't put up, because there aren't any. If you know someone who has given you fifty investigations, it explains a lot as to why you are speaking for some disgruntled person. If they have had fifty investigations under this adminstration, (again that is who you are directing your comments at) then there is likely a problem with that person. More likely however you are just talking from the wrong side of your person.

I never said 50 from one person (Attention to Detail). I said 50 investigations. None of which are still on going. I am glad you are happy and well liked by your superiors. I am sure you will be successful in your endeavors. You keep saying administration, administration, administration....the only thing that changes is the Sheriff and the Deputy to the Sheriff (Assitant to the Sheriff) in every administration. So with that being said all the other players remain the same.

 

[Htdfb]

Well I think that regardless of what you do corruption exist at every level... Just like them taking the newspapers out during the election or when they stole all that lumber did'nt the Department of Justice Investigate that ??? I might be wrong, but really. They are not innocent. Doesnt one of the poeple that was involved in that still work there ??? I think they do a good job, but the young people taking these jobs have no clue what they are walking into. How do you get away with stuff like that ???

 

[itsrequired]

I never said 50 from one person (Attention to Detail). I said 50 investigations. None of which are still on going. I am glad you are happy and well liked by your superiors. I believe I am well liked by my superiors and subordinates. I am sure you will be successful in your endeavors. I already am. You keep saying administration, administration, administration....the only thing that changes is the Sheriff and the Deputy to the Sheriff (Assitant to the Sheriff) in every administration. Again you're wrong. Only one commander is in the same job he was in with the last administration, and other commanders retired. So with that being said all the other players remain the same.

No, you said you had fifty investigations. Those aren't public record because they are personnel issues. There is no way for someone to get fifty investigations unless someone gives them the individual record of investigation in which they were investigated. I know that multiple people in the agency aren’t giving some anonymous guy out there their information to look at, otherwise I would have heard about that. Therefore, the only way you could have gotten fifty investigations is from a single source. None of this really matters, because the fact is you don’t have fifty investigations. PM me, give me the names of the people who have sued and won from the agency. I can think of one in the last 10 years.

There was another who sued the retirement board, which is independent from the office. You are full of sh*t. You might try to come up with some more b.s. but just face it. I know your sh*t stinks and so do you!

It’s nice that you want people to thank the loyal hard working deputies we have, but you don’t have to make up lies while doing it. The agency is run by the sheriff. He is the person who makes the decisions. You’re insinuation that nothing has changed from the last administration due to the same people being in charge is crap. If that was the case, and the citizens were so upset with this agency, why is it that this was the first time in almost 80 years that the sheriff went unopposed? Reason is because of the dedicated officers, and the admiration we have from the community we work in.
Go back to P.G. or what ever other rock you crawled out from and be disgruntled here, because for those that do their job there is no problem with where they work.

 

[Foxhound]

I think you are a brown-noser.

2. When I see an officer or hear someone is an officer I make a point to thank them.Again, you are a brown-noser. I'd be embarrassed if someone thanked me for doing my job.

3. I even thanked one when I received a ticket for exceeding the posted limit. (I only hope he did not think I was being sarcastic. I was totally sincere.) I probably thought you were being a smart@ss.

4. I extend this thank you to all current and former firemen/paramedics, servicemen, and teachers. Your nose is so brown.

5. Great thread.


There are bad people in every walk of life but it takes a certain person to chose any of the aforementioned careers.

ChesBchSportsmn;4717984]I beg to differ. I have known people to get into law enforcement, and MOST of them had very big egos. Some of them were even control-freak @ssholes. Getting a job in which you can utilize control over people with a gun and a badge is an excellent way to become a professional @sshole. Fortunately, they are not all like this, but many are. So, get off that "it's a calling" crap and stop shoving your nose up their @sses. Your nose is already brown....

Well brown nosing implies you get some return for your efforts.
You are entitled to your opinion no matter how stupid it is.

 

[Pride4369]

This is true....I whole heartedly embrace that at times !

 

[Pride4369]

No, you said you had fifty investigations. Those aren't public record because they are personnel issues. I am very aware of that There is no way for someone to get fifty investigations unless someone gives them the individual record of investigation in which they were investigated. Once Again you are correct I know that multiple people in the agency aren’t giving some anonymous guy out there their information to look at, otherwise I would have heard about that. I guess you are so important people fee the need to tell you everything...I hope you got your crystal ball out for the future since you are not in the know Therefore, the only way you could have gotten fifty investigations is from a single source.Impossible I would not consider representing a cause on any level for a trouble maker or someone who can not stay out from under investigation, are you so narrow minded you can't see what is in front of your face everyday None of this really matters, because the fact is you don’t have fifty investigations. I love how you tell me what I do and do not have I love it when people do that....soon or later they have to just say damn when it all hits the fan PM me, give me the names of the people who have sued and won from the agency. I can think of one in the last 10 years.

There was another who sued the retirement board, which is independent from the office. You are full of sh*t. You might try to come up with some more b.s. but just face it. I know your sh*t stinks and so do you! What stinks here is you covering up what is really going on !!

It’s nice that you want people to thank the loyal hard working deputies we have, but you don’t have to make up lies while doing itNot lies . The agency is run by the sheriff Is that so. It might be run by him because he is in charge, but the real inner workings are going on without his knowledge. He is the person who makes the decisions. You’re insinuation that nothing has changed from the last administration due to the same people being in charge is crap. Just because they change job descriptions and departments does not mean anything they are still in command If that was the case, and the citizens were so upset with this agency, why is it that this was the first time in almost 80 years that the sheriff went unopposed? Because the citizens do not know better they see the deputies working hard and assume its his doing Reason is because of the dedicated officers, and the admiration we have from the community we work in.
Go back to P.G.DC Actually for most of my life so you were close, but I like it here so I will stay!! Its better than the hussle and bussel of the city or what ever other rock you crawled out from and be disgruntled there, because for those that do their job there is no problem with where they work.

I love you...you just prove my point more and more every time you post !! God Bless America !

 

[Pride4369]

I will not comment any more...simply because I do not want to shed bad light on the hard working deputies. Unfortunately this went to a level which I did not anticipate. I must gracefully leave this discussion and simply watch. Thank you for participating. Say what you must but I feel though fighting will get nowhere