A Purebred Mutt

[SoMDGirl42]

I think it was the Leonberger. :shrug:


Well, here's some info on the misc. class.

I looked all through the AKC site. I did see the miscellaneous class as well as the mixed breed section. It'd take a lot of time to search every dog to find out when it was added to the AKC. You'd think they have some kind of history about the AKC to answer these stupid questions.

 

[cattitude]

Regardless of heritage... a dog is worth what someone is willing to pay for it.

How well I know that.

 

[SoMDGirl42]

Regardless of heritage... a dog is worth what someone is willing to pay for it.

That is true, and for every dog that I've owned for 4 years, their worth was priceless.

 

[happyappygirl]

The problem with a crossbreds (ie: labradoodle) is if you breed a cross bred to a cross bred, it will begin to look like one parent or the other and loose much of the 'original' appearance that drew people in. In the case of labradoodles, breeding a labradoodle to a labradoodle creates a dog which looks like a standard poodle...but isn't, so why not just buy a standard poodle?

THATs why designer dogs will never be AKC recognized. An accepted, uniform breed standard is required to become AKC recognized.

The GOOD thing about these particular crosses (where a registered purebred is mated with another registered purebred) is called "hybrid vigor". Crossing the two breeds often results in genetically superior stock to either breed, thus effectively breeding out some serious things like congenetal heart defects, which I personally think is a GOOD thing, as long as people take into consideration certain structural things like head shape. Ie: don't breed a dachsund to a Pug, the offspring may well have serious bite/teeth alignment issues like a parrot mouth.

But breeding a pug to a beagle for a puggle, creates a sort of mini mastiff looking little dog, and hopefully you bred away some of the weird skittish temperament issues you sometimes get in beagles, and the breathing problems you have in Pugs with short snouts. Viola! The perfect apartment dog. No snoring....little and definately cute.

I personally love the parti-doodles. Parti colored poodles bred to labs. These are cool looking, like portugese water dogs without the PWD temperament which some people can't deal with. PARTI DOODLES - DoodleKisses.com

YIKES! Puppy Prices:
Multigeneration Australian Labradoodles
Solid Colors- $1800.00
Parti Colors- $2200.00

F1b Goldendoodles $1300.00

F3 Standard Labradoodles
Solid Colors-$1300.00
Parti Colors-$1800.00

And they can't keep them in stock. Parti colored standard poodles are hard to find.

 

[SoftballCrazy]

Last time I checked, vets still CHARGE rescue groups to have a dog/cat spayed/neutered, given shots, wormed, heartworm tested, and microchipped (not to mention monthly heartworm and flea meds). Go find a free puppy/dog and have it vetted...see what it costs you.

People that rehome their own dog often ask a fee, thinking if someone pays for it, perhaps they'll value it more. Free animals sometimes wind up in the wrong hands (bait dogs/cats, dog fighting rings).

 

[Cowgirl]

She reposted the ad, but left off the purebred part. Oh, and she upped the fee to $400.

 

[Cowgirl]

The GOOD thing about these particular crosses (where a registered purebred is mated with another registered purebred) is called "hybrid vigor". Crossing the two breeds often results in genetically superior stock to either breed, thus effectively breeding out some serious things like congenetal heart defects, which I personally think is a GOOD thing, as long as people take into consideration certain structural things like head shape. Ie: don't breed a dachsund to a Pug, the offspring may well have serious bite/teeth alignment issues like a parrot mouth.

But breeding a pug to a beagle for a puggle, creates a sort of mini mastiff looking little dog, and hopefully you bred away some of the weird skittish temperament issues you sometimes get in beagles, and the breathing problems you have in Pugs with short snouts. Viola! The perfect apartment dog. No snoring....little and definately cute.

Cross breeding *usually* results in hybrid vigor, but many cross bred dogs STILL have issues. I'd say the proper thing to do if you're looking to breed healthy dogs is to keep breeding only the healthiest dogs, which means extensive health and vet checks. Only breeding to reputably healthy dogs (with generations of healthy parents and vet checks and tests to prove it) means the best and most accurate way to predict healthy puppies.

And didn't you have a puggle pup that got sick? That shows right there that cross breds aren't necessarily healthier. My Mastiff mix has epiphysitis and the possible beginnings of elbow dysplasia. Hybrid vigor didn't help him there.

That's just my opinion though. :shrug:

 

[morningbell]

This just cracks me up! What in the world are people thinking? When your dog is a "yorkipoo" (yorkie and poodle combined) it is not a purebred. DUH.

I'd love to see those papers...probably printed from home with Publisher or something.

4yr Female Purebred Yorkie-Poo with papers.

She reposted the ad, but left off the purebred part. Oh, and she upped the fee to $400.

Sounds like the scam ad my neighbor answered this past spring. She lost her money. There were a few of the same type ad with various breeds, it was always, can't keep, well trained puppy or young dog....

 

[kwillia]

That dog looks to be bigger than 10 pounds to me...

 

[sockgirl77]

That dog looks to be bigger than 10 pounds to me...

and I thought Yorki-poos were cute. That's not a very cute dog and I'll be damned if I'm paying $400 for a not very cute 4 year old mutt.

 

[Cowgirl]

That dog looks to be bigger than 10 pounds to me...

Who knows. Poodles have pretty slight frames, so maybe it is 10 lbs.

 

[happyappygirl]

I didn't say ALL hybrids are healthy, I said "often" results in... and Yup, I had a puggle that had some wart-type virus or disease but more importantly he had inherited his beagle mom's skittish temperament unfortunately.

Cross breeding dilutes the gene pool of a breed but certainly may not eliminate defective genes. There is no guarantee with selectively breeding purebred dogs either. I've spent over 30 years trying to eliminate HD from "my" line of Rotties, through selective breeding and using Pen Hip exams to breed the tightest to the tightest hips possible to avoid the laxity that is HD...and guess what? It just doesn't work like that. Mother nature has a sense of humor with the best intentioned of people.

Mine tend to have an overall lower incidence of HD by radiograph, and those that do have it, are mild....but I don't think selective breeding only those tested as clear has a thing to do with it. Genetic muscle mass, correct working conformation and the environment - as in what they are fed, and how they are managed while growing rapidly - are much more critical in avoiding the stress and wear and tear on the joints that is HD.

Congenital heart defects in breeds whose gene pools are very small are obviously a different thing all together, and i do think cross breeding WILL help those pets, by diluting and enlarging their gene pools.

 

[Roxie04]

 

[happyappygirl]

I never used to feel this way until i came to love Cavaliers. I don't cross breed, mine are registered pure bred and get their annual health screenings, but it makes me very sad to think that even though they are all healthy now, they may eventually prematurely drop dead of an undiagnosed heart condition, as a result of such a small gene pool.

It's really something to think about.

 

[cattitude]

I never used to feel this way until i came to love Cavaliers. I don't cross breed, mine are registered pure bred and get their annual health screenings, but it makes me very sad to think that even though they are all healthy now, they may eventually prematurely drop dead of an undiagnosed heart condition, as a result of such a small gene pool.

It's something to think about.

By Braz Ruivo?

 

[happyappygirl]

By Braz Ruivo?

Either at the Cardio/eye clinic held by the Cav club during a match right in leonardtown every spring, or the Talbot KC shows in August on the E. Shore, I got Braz Ruivo started doing them there many moons ago. TKC also has eye clinics. Depends on who needs to be done when.

Rott hearts can be done once, and Cav hearts need to be evaluated every year because it's not if it's WHEN they will develop a murmur. That's quite sad.

 

[Cowgirl]

Oooh, is this a new breed? Pomeranings?

 

[DEEKAYPEE8569]

This just cracks me up! When your dog is a "yorkipoo" (yorkie and poodle combined) it is not a purebred. DUH.

When you combine breed names; the operative word is COMBINE; you don't have a pure ANYTHING. Hel-LO!!!

"Contradiction in terms".....THAT is the phrase I forgot......like "squared circle."

 

[Chasey_Lane]

Oooh, is this a new breed? Pomeranings?