Amish man challenges ID requirement for firearm purch.

Hijinx

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This_person said:
Then we disagree :shrug:

In my opinion there are no rights that are universal. If someone's religion involves raping children, their religious rights go out the window. See what I mean?
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There you go. Knocking Islam again because they can marry and have sex with a 9 year old.
 
Bann

Bann

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How do we know an Amish person is who they say they are just because they say so? Anyone can dress and look like they're Amish and claim religious objections and then go on their merry way and do whatever. :shrug:
 
Hijinx

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Bann said:
How do we know an Amish person is who they say they are just because they say so? Anyone can dress and look like they're Amish and claim religious objections and then go on their merry way and do whatever. :shrug:
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I would bet that Andrew Hertzler of Lancaster County is a bona fide Amish person and has many friends willing to testify to it.
 
Bann

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Hijinx said:
I would bet that Andrew Hertzler of Lancaster County is a bona fide Amish person and has many friends willing to testify to it.
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That actually means nothing in the grand scheme of things. :shrug:
 
Hijinx

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You people get me in trouble all of the time.

Did he arrive at court in a buggy?

WTH if we are going to get silly and start asking dumb questions about his being an authentic Amish, Does he smell Horsey?

Now they will claim I am anti-amish. Amish isn't a race is it? I mean I am already a Board Mommy certified racist.
 
Bann

Bann

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Hijinx said:
You people get me in trouble all of the time.

Did he arrive at court in a buggy?

WTH if we are going to get silly and start asking dumb questions about his being an authentic Amish, Does he smell Horsey?

Now they will claim I am anti-amish. Amish isn't a race is it? I mean I am already a Board Mommy certified racist.
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Well if he can get friends and or neighbors to vouch for him, then so can I. I have tons who can vouch for me. :diva:
 
Hijinx

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vraiblonde said:
Actually, no. I have never seen your birth certificate, and even if I had there's no way of knowing that it's really yours.

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Although the two of you appear to be tight, I am sure you are not the only one who can vouch for Bann.
Pretty sure she has no reason to use an alias.
Pretty sure Mr. Hertzler has no reason either.

How about if she and he had say, ten Notarized statements.
 
LibertyBeacon

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This_person said:
Maybe I didn't word it well... I think most things listed as rights have reasonable restrictions. For example, in a time of war military secrets are reasonably restricted from the free speech right.
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Well, I don't like your example because in order to get a clearance to handle secrets it is typically voluntary insomuch as we have an all-volunteer military. As we are, generally speaking, allowed to sign away rights I simply don't think this is a free speech issue.
 
LibertyBeacon

LibertyBeacon

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Hijinx said:
How about if she and he had say, ten Notarized statements.
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I don't think you understand the concept of what is being discussed here. What do you need to get a notary public to notarize something? That's right, champ. An ID.

Isn't recess over? Perhaps you should scurry along back to class before Ms. Huffnagle finds out you're absent.
 
This_person

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LibertyBeacon said:
Well, I don't like your example because in order to get a clearance to handle secrets it is typically voluntary insomuch as we have an all-volunteer military. As we are, generally speaking, allowed to sign away rights I simply don't think this is a free speech issue.
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Ok, how about this: you may not legally publish anything that is dishonestly defamatory or that maliciously or damagingly misrepresents a person. Even though you have free speech, that act harms your fellow citizen in a dishonest fashion, and is justifiably illegal and therefore justifiably a limitation on your right to free speech.

Similarly, let's say you repeatedly use a firearm in a way that threatens others for the purposes of taking things from others in a fashion that is harmful or even violent against that person. It is my view that it is reasonable to have some amount of time that your right to keep and bear arms may reasonably be restricted, even beyond any incarceration for conviction of the original crimes.
 
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