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itsbob

I bowl overhand
Huh.

OK, those are the instants in time that I worry most about. Does that go in the gray area of 'can't control everything/#### happens' or did you mess up, if only for an instant? I mean, obviously, you caught it before anything happened and you were inspired to put plasma cutters on the forks ( :lol: ) but I am interested in your mindset, as a high mile rider, because I wanna become a high mile rider, too.

:popcorn:

I was driving BG's truck at the time, with BG in the passenger seat..


The rider was in the worst location possible, and he was doing nothing to improve the situation. He should have realized I was there either turning right or left (that part doesn't matter) and should have either sped up, or slowed down to get out of the cars shadow. He was in steady cruise mode and never recognized the threat.

I've been in the same situation, and I USUALLY accelerate and get as far left as I can, making sure there is a clear Line of Sight between me and car turning into the road, watch their face/eyes, and their front tires for movement. Other times I've slowed and let the car turning right clear so there is a clear LOS between me and the car entering. Then if they pull out I've slowed enough to brake in time (I hope). Either way you choose, if you don't have a clear Line of SIght to the car, even if you can see them, chances are they can't see you.
 

glhs837

Power with Control
Yep, bikers responsible for ensuring cars waiting to turn see him. Shouldn't have to be that way, but to not do so is asking to inspect someones exhaust up close. And even when you KNOW the driver has seen you, expect them to decide the world would be a nicer place without you and your dirty, stinkin motorbike, and have a plan.
 

itsbob

I bowl overhand
Yep, bikers responsible for ensuring cars waiting to turn see him. Shouldn't have to be that way, but to not do so is asking to inspect someones exhaust up close. And even when you KNOW the driver has seen you, expect them to decide the world would be a nicer place without you and your dirty, stinkin motorbike, and have a plan.

I love it when a "biker" says, "I don't HAVE to look out for them, THEY have to look out for me. It wouldn't be MY fault if he pulled out in front of me, I was right, they were wrong"

Yep, you'd be right it would be the cagers fault, and he would go home with MAYBE a ticket knowing it was his fault, you wouldn't go home.
 

Larry Gude

Strung Out
I was driving BG's truck at the time, with BG in the passenger seat..


The rider was in the worst location possible, and he was doing nothing to improve the situation. He should have realized I was there either turning right or left (that part doesn't matter) and should have either sped up, or slowed down to get out of the cars shadow. He was in steady cruise mode and never recognized the threat.

I've been in the same situation, and I USUALLY accelerate and get as far left as I can, making sure there is a clear Line of Sight between me and car turning into the road, watch their face/eyes, and their front tires for movement. Other times I've slowed and let the car turning right clear so there is a clear LOS between me and the car entering. Then if they pull out I've slowed enough to brake in time (I hope). Either way you choose, if you don't have a clear Line of SIght to the car, even if you can see them, chances are they can't see you.

OK, that makes it more better; I thought, because of the new lights, you were on your bike for this near incident.

It makes me think I am on the right track because reading what you do when up is like reading a transcript of my mindset, or what I am trying to do. It is rare for me to ever be 'just cruisng' if anyone or anything is around. Even then, if I am alone, I weave back and forth and TRY to find trouble, imagining Big Foot and/or Aliens around every corner, behind every corn stalk. I get comfortable but I never relax. I am either attacking or defending, all the time.

Thanks! :buddies:
 
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toppick08

Guest
Hood ornaments, murdercycles, and all four wheelers should take heed from the best, most safe drivers on the road and learn a little about driving skills......:yay:

Roll on 18 wheeler...roll on..:yay:
 

glhs837

Power with Control
OK, that makes it more better; I thought, because of the new lights, you were on your bike for this near incident.

It makes me think I am on the right track because reading what you do when up is like reading a transcript of my mindset, or what I am trying to do. It is rare for me to ever be 'just cruisng' if anyone or anything is around. Even then, if I am alone, I weave back and forth and TRY to find trouble, imagining Big Foot and/or Aliens around every corner, behind every corn stalk. I get comfortable but I never relax. I am either attacking or defending, all the time.

Thanks! :buddies:

And that is the mindset that will keep you alive. :buddies:
 

Larry Gude

Strung Out
And that is the mindset that will keep you alive. :buddies:

It scares the crap out of me everytime I find myself relaxing and not actively thinking about what I am doing. Every curve I take a bit off line or too fast, or a hill I crest without scanning the edge coming at me for the first sign of a car or truck coming the other way, it gives me a 'zizzzz' (DUMB ASS!!)

Yesterday, I saw something in the road, debris, kicked a leg in that direction for the folks behind me and as I got closer, the debris moved and started running around in circles. I did a few quick honks, which I was happy about because I miss the horn some times. He could not make up his mind, squirrel, and I started trying to find, guess, really, if he was going left or right. Well, he committed to my right, I eased left and he changed his mind.

I would love to have had some sort of meter on how fast my brain was making calculations because it was an instant and I found that I deliberately chose to keep my course because the road was going l t r and down and I could not see what lay left edge or if a car was coming AND that he was small enough for me to absorb safely (to me) AND chose to keep steady throttle and not risk any kind of emergency move given everything my brain calculated in an instant.

Sorry for Rocky but, I was happy that instead of a panic and/or a freeze, my brain and body took over and, I think, made the right choices. My head was in the game. :buddies:
 
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