Bare-ya-cuda
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I haven’t seen an original thought from you yet.
Just how were those elections stolen? Please elaborate.
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Just how were those elections stolen? Please elaborate.
Grumpy
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Shirley, you jest.
Chopticon64
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I supported Trump’s expansion of parental leave for federal employees.
I voted for Hogan.
I’m against any legalization of marijuana.
I’m against any medical or surgical procedure to children in the name of trans rights.
The GOP is actually encouraging all registered Reps to vote during early voting to make sure it gets in and will be counted.
I always vote early, because I want to get it DONE in case I fall and break a hip and can't or something. 
Chopticon64
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There are endless posts here that Biden stole 2020 (even though he was ahead in nearly every poll and folks were tired of closed schools and empty grocery stores), and also endless posts about how Kamala will steal 2024, again with no evidence.
I’m pointing to the clear reality that Hillary was ahead in every poll, was certain to win by every predictor, but somehow lost, and lost by a lot.
It was a steal by the GOP, but they gave the presidency to a mad dog, he bit every hand that gave him the privilege of the office. The deplorables fell in love with him and now the country is stuck.
Bare-ya-cuda
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But you will vote for the candidates that are for what you are against? Make perfect sense to me.
Bare-ya-cuda
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That were you folks go wrong. Anyone who doesn’t think like you do are deplorables. The problem is people have politicians (you) divide us and turn us against each other by class, race, etc. to stay in power. it is no longer we the people, and that unfortunately has led to the people who could care less about staying in power. I say this about both political parties.
glhs837
Power with Control
See, common ground. Why no on the marijuana? All for it myself. Haven't touched it since I joined the Navy in 83. But out of all the potheads I hung out with in high school, only two ended up having issues in life after hitting the harder stuff as adults.
I’ve noticed on the RCP site, they show sone interesting stats for the battlegrounds. And that is, where Trump/Clinton and Trump/Biden was polling at this stage in the campaign - and what the final results were.
In EVERY SINGLE instance - Trump’s final percent was VASTLY underestimated. Yuge.
In EVERY SINGLE instance - Trump’s final percent was VASTLY underestimated. Yuge.
I’m of two minds on marijuana. Mostly I’m concerned that like alcohol - or cell phones while driving - it’s going to be abused. I know there exist places in the world where if you want it - you have to enjoy it in approved places.
I won’t. Because I always got paranoid. I think supporters of it think that everyone will use it responsibly - and they absolutely will not.
Grumpy
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The marijuana that is out there now is many times more potent than back in the day. I've seen quite a few hard working, responsible 40somethings become homeless and street people in the last 10 years because of marijuana use(MY opinion). I used to think it was harmless, but that was a result of my use of it 40some years ago, but it's a problem now and gonna get worse. "Marijuana Psychosis", you will hearing more and more about it, mark my words..
Chopticon64
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It’s bad news, similar to the sports betting (which I should have put a hard NO on).
Its negative effects are large for young men, a group of people no one gives any cares about. Sports betting is also a poison put on society, affecting mostly young men, but others too. It should be forbidden.
Young men at highest risk of schizophrenia linked with cannabis use disorder
NIH study highlights the need to proactively screen for, prevent, and treat cannabis use disorder especially among young people.
Hessian
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That's part of the reason I enjoy going back to watch the media Flail itself into hysteria on that night (You tube makes me smile)....Young Turks almost committed Hari Kari. Weeping MSNBC...the Madcow in deepest grief,...ah, I look forward to the new version.
LightRoasted
If I may ...
For your consideration ...
In my experience, speaking with others that smoke it, 40-50's even 70yo I know, they say, yes, it's higher in THC than in the past. But what they do is smoke less of it rather than a whole bowl or joint as was done in the past, to account for its strength. Which also makes the quantity they have last longer. (A little goes a long way). Just like only having only a beer or two so as not to get drunk, but still have a slight buzz, rather than drinking an entire case and getting sloshed.
Apparently with the new strains much higher in THC, people have learned that it's best to smoke less each time they do so. Which may also account for marijuana sales plummeting in places like California causing businesses to close and pulling out of the industry, other than cartel interference of course. Their product is so strong now, people need less to get their mellow on. Where as an ounce of weed may have lasted someone week, may now last up to a month. The law of unintended consequences applies here. Engineer a stronger product, and oops, people smoke less to get the same high reducing overall sales. Anecdotal for sure, though, makes logical sense.
As far as "Marijuana Psychosis" goes? It does seem to be very clear from research that if a person already has a chronic psychotic condition, such as schizophrenia, that using marijuana can trigger an episode of psychosis, rather than in a normal functioning person. With that, studies also show that people with certain genes that predispose them to schizophrenia are more likely to develop the condition if they use cannabis. Other than that, marijuana-induced psychotic episodes/symptoms are rare.
Also, I don't think marijuana use itself causes homelessness, unless there are other far more serious things going on in a person's life; self-induced, (bad decisions), or by events out of their control. Marijuana just doesn't have that type of effect on people like alcohol and opioid, and their derivatives, use does.
My opinion.
In my experience, speaking with others that smoke it, 40-50's even 70yo I know, they say, yes, it's higher in THC than in the past. But what they do is smoke less of it rather than a whole bowl or joint as was done in the past, to account for its strength. Which also makes the quantity they have last longer. (A little goes a long way). Just like only having only a beer or two so as not to get drunk, but still have a slight buzz, rather than drinking an entire case and getting sloshed.
Apparently with the new strains much higher in THC, people have learned that it's best to smoke less each time they do so. Which may also account for marijuana sales plummeting in places like California causing businesses to close and pulling out of the industry, other than cartel interference of course. Their product is so strong now, people need less to get their mellow on. Where as an ounce of weed may have lasted someone week, may now last up to a month. The law of unintended consequences applies here. Engineer a stronger product, and oops, people smoke less to get the same high reducing overall sales. Anecdotal for sure, though, makes logical sense.
As far as "Marijuana Psychosis" goes? It does seem to be very clear from research that if a person already has a chronic psychotic condition, such as schizophrenia, that using marijuana can trigger an episode of psychosis, rather than in a normal functioning person. With that, studies also show that people with certain genes that predispose them to schizophrenia are more likely to develop the condition if they use cannabis. Other than that, marijuana-induced psychotic episodes/symptoms are rare.
Also, I don't think marijuana use itself causes homelessness, unless there are other far more serious things going on in a person's life; self-induced, (bad decisions), or by events out of their control. Marijuana just doesn't have that type of effect on people like alcohol and opioid, and their derivatives, use does.
My opinion.
glhs837
Power with Control
They being the GOP?
Yep, "one hitters", tiny pipes you put a small amount, enough for one or two draws. A few years back spent some time with an old high school friend. Got him some real electrical TBI due to a tagout at the industrial site he was the manager of.
And I agree with the you on the psychosis. Its not "induced" so much as unlocked. Like alcoholism. My two youngest (28 26) and have both been around it for a while, as have their friends. Son doesnt inbibe, but did as a teen. Daughter never did as a teen, but has tried smoking, edibles, but was never happy with the dosing. Evidently there are now THC infused drinks, and she like that as she can finely control the amount imbibed. Maybe I'll try it again after I retire, whenever that is.