Another day, another vehicle into a business

[MiddleGround]

The stat announced a crackdown a couple years back. Reading between the lines, they are really focused on the trucks and vans. Legally, it's to and from meets and repairs, really. But my 1998 BMW convertible that I might drive to work twice a month isn't really what they are after. It's the guy with a van truck using it for business. Every single case I've heard of since then has involved a truck or van.

Yep! I know a guy with an older Nissan pickup with Historics. Drives it to and from work every single day. Its his daily driver.

 

[glhs837]

Historic tags are for trucks meets and repairs. Maybe antique has the same guidelines I really don't know.

A vehicle registered as historic cannot be used for general daily transportation, or primarily for the transportation of passengers or property on highways. It can only be used in exhibitions, club activities, parades, tours, occasional transportation and similar uses. A trailer does not qualify for historic registration. They will not be used for employment, transportation to and from employment or school, or for commercial purposes.

 

[PeoplesElbow]

JPC.

Not a chance, that would mean he did some type of work.

 

[RoseRed]

Not a chance, that would mean he did some type of work.

Food Stamps Attack!

Don't you think she choose not to go on Public Assistance and raise her family in a decent home? I have no idea how old the poster is, but I remember the day when Housing Assistance did not allow you to live anyplace where a landlord may accept it. The housing projects were NOT nice like you see...

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[BernieP]

If I may, from MVA

o be registered as a historic vehicle (class L), your vehicle must be a passenger vehicle, motorcycle or truck (with a GVWR of 10,000 pounds or less): be 20 calendar years old or older and must not have been substantially altered, remodeled or remanufactured from the manufacturers original design.

A vehicle registered as historic cannot be used for general daily transportation, or primarily for the transportation of passengers or property on highways. It can only be used in exhibitions, club activities, parades, tours, occasional transportation and similar uses. A trailer does not qualify for historic registration. They will not be used for employment, transportation to and from employment or school, or for commercial purposes.

A historic registration may also be issued to a truck with a GVWR in excess of 10,000 pounds, a tractor or a motor home as long as the vehicle is 25 calendar years old or older. The vehicle cannot be substantially altered, remodeled or remanufactured from its original design. Vehicles issued historic tags under these criteria cannot be used for occasional transportation, or for any commercial transportation of passengers or property on highways. A historic vehicle in this category must be insured by a Historic Vehicle, Show Vehicle, or Antique Vehicle insurance policy.

If your historic vehicle is 60 years old or older, you may obtain a permanent, non-transferable registration for a one-time fee. Note: A historic motor vehicle 60 years old or older do not qualify for a special registration plates since they require an annual registration fee.

 

[PeoplesElbow]

Food Stamps Attack!

Don't you think she choose not to go on Public Assistance and raise her family in a decent home? I have no idea how old the poster is, but I remember the day when Housing Assistance did not allow you to live anyplace where a landlord may accept it. The housing projects were NOT nice like you see...

forums.somd.com

Was referring to ladders on a vehicle.

 

[glhs837]

If I may, from MVA

Yeah, mines gonna qualify under that "occasional transportation" deal. Since I ride my bike over 90% of the time, it will be used on those rare occasions when I dont take the bike, occasional sunny day rides with my wife.

 

[PrchJrkr]

I'm on the fence about how I'll register my 1998 GMC C2500. It's main use will be launching a boat within 1/2 mile of my house and dump runs. I am going to be restoring it, slowly. I just like sleeping good knowing I'm doing my best to do the right things.

 

[glhs837]

I'm on the fence about how I'll register my 1998 GMC C2500. It's main use will be launching a boat within 1/2 mile of my house and dump runs. I am going to be restoring it, slowly. I just like sleeping good knowing I'm doing my best to do the right things.

sure sounds "occasional" to me. This by itself is a perfect example of a crappily written law. How the hell do you are a cop define "occasional"? How many times a month can Johnny Law see me parked at Cooks and not write me up?

 

[LightRoasted]

If I may ...

As said in the past, the only benefit these "historic tags" offer, is that a State vehicle inspection is not required to title and register the vehicle. All other requirements apply. Must maintain insurance, renewal of tags, etc. Also, if the po po see a vehicle going down the road with bald tires, cracked windshield, headlight out, brake light out, etc., etc., etc., an equipment repair order can still be issued.

 

[PrchJrkr]

The cost of tags and no initial inspection is what makes them so appealing.

 

[BernieP]

The cost of tags and no initial inspection is what makes them so appealing.

One big reason I would never buy a vehicle via a private sale or out of state - having to get it inspected.
Unless you know an inspector who is straight up, you can be in for a bigger bill than just the fee.
Particularly with older vehicles, they may be safe, but how much will you end up paying to get it through inspection.
That should be a condition of sale, vehicle passes inspection.

 

[MiddleGround]

I would say that if you are pulled over then the cop will

sure sounds "occasional" to me. This by itself is a perfect example of a crappily written law. How the hell do you are a cop define "occasional"? How many times a month can Johnny Law see me parked at Cooks and not write me up?

I would say that if you are pulled over then the cop would issue you a warning (for whatever the reason is) and note your vehicle in the system. If.. say 2 or 3 days later, you are pulled over again OR you get "looked up" in their system while you are on the road.... Ticket to you.

Occasional is common sense. If you are driving it once a week to cruise or to go to a show... Occasional
If you are driving it, even for 10 minutes on a dump run or towing a boat EVERY DAY then, thats a "daily driver." Ticket.

 

[RoseRed]

I would say that if you are pulled over then the cop will

I would say that if you are pulled over then the cop would issue you a warning (for whatever the reason is) and note your vehicle in the system. If.. say 2 or 3 days later, you are pulled over again OR you get "looked up" in their system while you are on the road.... Ticket to you.

Occasional is common sense. If you are driving it once a week to cruise or to go to a show... Occasional
If you are driving it, even for 10 minutes on a dump run or towing a boat EVERY DAY then, thats a "daily driver." Ticket.

Do people go to the dump more than once a week? I know I don't.

 

[glhs837]

I would say that if you are pulled over then the cop will

I would say that if you are pulled over then the cop would issue you a warning (for whatever the reason is) and note your vehicle in the system. If.. say 2 or 3 days later, you are pulled over again OR you get "looked up" in their system while you are on the road.... Ticket to you.

Occasional is common sense. If you are driving it once a week to cruise or to go to a show... Occasional
If you are driving it, even for 10 minutes on a dump run or towing a boat EVERY DAY then, thats a "daily driver." Ticket.

I agree, there is a risk, but I'm pretty sure on the Big List of Things the Officer Mght Pull You Over For, having historic on a decently kept non-commercial looking vehicle is pretty low on the list. And my point was the whole point of laws is to codify that common sense into things you can obey or not. If I take it out three times a week, and on one of them toss a few bags of trash in the trunk because the transfer station is on the way to Point Lookout, well, how is that still not occasional? Occasional can be many things to many people.

 

[David]

Must have hit it pretty hard to have that clean of a hole.

 

[buddscreek]

rumor in the 7th is he ran into the wall three times and wasn't alone

 

[BernieP]

I agree, there is a risk, but I'm pretty sure on the Big List of Things the Officer Mght Pull You Over For, having historic on a decently kept non-commercial looking vehicle is pretty low on the list. And my point was the whole point of laws is to codify that common sense into things you can obey or not. If I take it out three times a week, and on one of them toss a few bags of trash in the trunk because the transfer station is on the way to Point Lookout, well, how is that still not occasional? Occasional can be many things to many people.

I'd say if they see you on the road Monday thru Friday there may be some question on commuting (unless you are old looking).
But if the vehicle looks in good shape, I would wonder why they would bother, plenty of POS vechicles on the road they should probably pull over for equipment violations but they don't.
Simliar to why don't they ticket people who don't have their lights on (when wipers are on) or at dawn / dusk.
I'm sure there is some logic that says a speeding driver is more likely to have other violations or something.

 

[RoseRed]

rumor in the 7th is he ran into the wall three times and wasn't alone

Maybe he will end up dead in a swamp.

 

[GWguy]

One big reason I would never buy a vehicle via a private sale or out of state - having to get it inspected.
Unless you know an inspector who is straight up, you can be in for a bigger bill than just the fee.
Particularly with older vehicles, they may be safe, but how much will you end up paying to get it through inspection.
That should be a condition of sale, vehicle passes inspection.

Most folks I know inspect the vehicle before putting it up for sale. That way you, as the buyer, know up front what the condition is, and it's a great buyer's incentive, faster sale. If someone is unwilling to inspect prior to sale, walk away. It probably has something seriously wrong with it.