Another fatality on southern Maryland roads

[glhs837]

Driver was 24 but he will probably claim the same thing.

As far as seeing the bike, isn't it a law (and pretty much universal) that when a bike is powered on, the headlamp is lit?
and it was a relatively new bike so I'm going to see it was probably a bright light.
I will give odds that the truck on the other hand did not have lights on, so if lighting and weather were a factor, it would have been the guy on the bike who had trouble seeing the numb skull make the left.

Yes, all lights are lit when the bikes ignition switch is ON. Any rider will tell you that doesn't matter. People simply dont see. Differing reasons, but at the end of it, you are a rider simply have to know that every single driver WILL be turning across you, EVERY time. Relying on them not to, even when you have the ROW, is how they get you. Weather was fine, was 0530, so not too dark. Young guy looking but not seeing, older gent not ready for the young guy to turn in front of him. I've actually slowed down approaching that point quite a few times because of a possible left turner.

 

[Grumpy]

Watched and SUV pull out of Walmart this morning, heading south on 235 (light by Applebees) They went straight for the left hand lane, not come up to speed and move across, no, slowing drive at a acute angle across the roadway until they were in the left lane, then straightened the vehicle out. Even then they didn't bother to accelerate. I'm sure they had a great reason to do it.

Thats par for the course going north or south on 5/235 from Hughesville to Lex Park

 

[Tech]

Yes, all lights are lit when the bikes ignition switch is ON. Any rider will tell you that doesn't matter. People simply dont see. Differing reasons, but at the end of it, you are a rider simply have to know that every single driver WILL be turning across you, EVERY time. Relying on them not to, even when you have the ROW, is how they get you. Weather was fine, was 0530, so not too dark. Young guy looking but not seeing, older gent not ready for the young guy to turn in front of him. I've actually slowed down approaching that point quite a few times because of a possible left turner.

My opinion only. Sometimes the headlight causes the bike to be lost in the headlights/day driving lights on the cars on multiple lane roads like 235. One sunny day going to make a U-turn into NB 235 at Smokey Joe's and the light had just turned green at Exploration, plenty of time to turn. Just before turning noticed a bike accelerating at a higher rate than the others. He was camouflaged by the lights and glare from the cars behind him.

 

[BernieP]

I've actually slowed down approaching that point quite a few times because of a possible left turner.

Sign of weakness, inviting trouble

 

[glhs837]

Sign of weakness, inviting trouble

I weigh about 700lbs total with the bike, I live in a position of weakness. I only have the Python Defense.......

 

[Bann]

Yea, I knew the gentleman too

 

[BernieP]

I don't think there is really anything specifically wrong with the intersection, just the people that use it.

I have seen many wrecks there.

Well the driver was given a field sobriety test and taken into custody - just sayin - innocent until proven guilty

 

[DannyMotorcycle]

Exactly. I bet I've gone safely through that intersection a million times from every direction you can take it - if there's an accident there someone was completely ignoring the signals and their driving. Pinned between the pole and the truck. JFC.

is there an arrow signal for turning left? or just regular lights?

 

[DannyMotorcycle]

looks like a fuggin idiot..

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[DannyMotorcycle]

I don't know - I don't think there is - what me to go check it out? I'm trying to stay up to midnight tonight, cold air might help.

if it makes you happy, sure why not

 

[DannyMotorcycle]

I take it Windsor was the other guy involved. Wow - he's young.

yes with traffic violations, burglary, theft via deception, and domestic abuse charges..

i'm not seeing any charges for htis accident though other than failure to display license and registration..

effing dick head has killed a man.. not knowing or caring to follow the driving laws.

and that motorcyclist might be alive today if the courts had him in jail where he probably belonged.. sad.

 

[DannyMotorcycle]

every motorcyclist should know to always be prepared to stop (and slow to a speed to make that possible) at an intersection because of left turners..

with the bike being so new i wonder how much motorcycle experience he had..at his age i might think it was plenty though..

but then there are some late in life new riders..

 

[DannyMotorcycle]

Nah, I'm in jammies and I'm going that way tomorrow. What's a CRSCA?

oh lol good, i woldn't want you to go out of your way.. I have no idea what CRSCA means..

 

[BernieP]

Really. I don't know how anyone drives after that. I hit a kid on a bicycle once. Just leaving Papa Johns in Lexington Park. Looked right, looked left - completely clear, edged forward and there he was right in front of me, cutting between cars. Not even ten years old yet. I saw that kid nearly every day for several months even in my sleep I'd find myself hitting the brakes.

I'm sorry, most people who injure or kill someone in a collision have the same response as you, even when that collision was deliberately caused by the deceased - i.e. suicide by train. You have a conscience and while I can tell you it was on the kid for riding in an unsafe manner, you still felt guilty.
BTW - the foot traffic and bike on GMR are one of the reasons I hate to use that road. They don't watch traffic, they just go and not even straight across or run. Just step out and meander on an angle to where it is they feel like going.
I'm surprised there aren't more injuries and deaths on that road.

 

[BernieP]

Think I've seen it all on Great Mills.

Thank God the boy was okay, fell off his bike, that was about the extent of it. It got a little tiny bit scary though, the child was black, the crowd that gathered around was black, and the woman who ORDERED me not to leave, was black. I don't know if anything would have happened or not, but it was very uncomfortable until another black man came over, patted me on the back, and asked me if I was okay. He also stayed with me until the police came. I wonder if that's how they feel when a color situation is reversed. I know it opened up my eyes.

You were probably being framed, I mean filmed.
Would not surprise me if they were running scams, fake accidents and then sue you for damages.
Now, how do you think cops feel when they make a stop in the hood, crowd gathers and they don't care what the crime is, they are not there to support their local sheriff

 

[glhs837]

To clear it up, the northbound left has no green turn arrow. The southbound one has a left arrow, I think, not sure if it works, but even if it does, you can left turn when the northbound has green, although you are supposed to yield. Again, would love to see the stats.

 

[BernieP]

To clear it up, the northbound left has no green turn arrow. The southbound one has a left arrow, I think, not sure if it works, but even if it does, you can left turn when the northbound has green, although you are supposed to yield. Again, would love to see the stats.

The problem with assuming, you can kill someone - I've seen it before, and even the desk sergeant in our township police department thought there was a left turn arrow - which there wasn't. The issue ended up being resolved thanks to the body shop manager who pointed it out to the regional claims adjuster. Who then realized their client had lied and was at fault.

 

[glhs837]

The problem with assuming, you can kill someone - I've seen it before, and even the desk sergeant in our township police department thought there was a left turn arrow - which there wasn't. The issue ended up being resolved thanks to the body shop manager who pointed it out to the regional claims adjuster. Who then realized their client had lied and was at fault.

Thats why I said I think There's a second stack of lights there, but I never turn left there, so I dont know. If I'm northbound I'm always assuming the SB folks are coming across me anyway.

 

[BernieP]

Thats why I said I think There's a second stack of lights there, but I never turn left there, so I dont know. If I'm northbound I'm always assuming the SB folks are coming across me anyway.

I agree, just saying that in my case the cops, both the ones on the scene and the desk sergeant didn't know the intersection.
They let the woman slide on failure to yield the right of way, which led her insurance company to balk at paying out claim
We were looking at subrogation on the claim which would have jacked our rates. If not for the body shop manager telling us not to file with our company and his finally getting the attention of her carrier

 

[General Lee]

All the accidents being posted on local social media is all the info you need letting you know the state and county are basically opened back up. People forget to take their head out of their a$$ when they’re back to their driving routines. Driving and walking around like a bunch of stupid mouth breathers.