anyone want a beagle

[tipsymcgee]

Two people from somd.com contacted me about possibly adopting him, but for reasons that are only their business, they had to decide against taking this dog.

Below is how our messages went last Wednesday. I guess I didn't make a further inquiry other than in these messages, which may be my fault, but I did not turn down the dog or decide against it.

by tipsymcgee
Have you found a rescue group or someone who can take the dog? I will gladly take it to keep from going to the shelter, so just let me know. I have a beagle and one bassett/beagle mix.

by libby
No, we haven't found anyone yet. We did have an immediate response so for a few days we've been hopeful, but just this morning they decided they couldn't.
Where are you located?

By tipsymcgee
I work in White Plains but live in Bushwood, about 10 minutes past Leonardtown. I can meet you just about anywhere.

by libby
If you're serious, we could meet in Leonardtown. Although wouldn't you want to meet the dog first? I've really got to find a home for him by Friday. My 13 y/o daughter comes home from a trip on Saturday and we told her before she left that she had to say goodbye. The emotional toll on her if she has to say good bye again would be brutal. We'll have to take him somewhere Saturday before we pick her up if we don't find another home for him.



by tipsymcgee
Yes, can meet any time in the evening. Would like to meet it first. Is it housetrained at all? I'm heading home now so won't answer any messages until I get there, past 7 or so.

by libby
He is house trained (unless you count the kids' toys on the floor) and crate trained. He's even pretty obedient; sit, stay, etc.


That's how it ended. Never had an offer to meet, and unfortunately I did not make initiate one further. We are taking in another foster through a dropoff at All Kinds next week.

 

[kwillia]

Below is how our messages went last Wednesday. I guess I didn't make a further inquiry other than in these messages, which may be my fault, but I did not turn down the dog or decide against it.

by tipsymcgee
Have you found a rescue group or someone who can take the dog? I will gladly take it to keep from going to the shelter, so just let me know. I have a beagle and one bassett/beagle mix.

by libby
No, we haven't found anyone yet. We did have an immediate response so for a few days we've been hopeful, but just this morning they decided they couldn't.
Where are you located?

By tipsymcgee
I work in White Plains but live in Bushwood, about 10 minutes past Leonardtown. I can meet you just about anywhere.

by libby
If you're serious, we could meet in Leonardtown. Although wouldn't you want to meet the dog first? I've really got to find a home for him by Friday. My 13 y/o daughter comes home from a trip on Saturday and we told her before she left that she had to say goodbye. The emotional toll on her if she has to say good bye again would be brutal. We'll have to take him somewhere Saturday before we pick her up if we don't find another home for him.



by tipsymcgee
Yes, can meet any time in the evening. Would like to meet it first. Is it housetrained at all? I'm heading home now so won't answer any messages until I get there, past 7 or so.

by libby
He is house trained (unless you count the kids' toys on the floor) and crate trained. He's even pretty obedient; sit, stay, etc.


That's how it ended. Never had an offer to meet, and unfortunately I did not make initiate one further. We are taking in another foster through a dropoff at All Kinds next week.

Seems like the ball was in your court, Tipsy... Well, all in all it shows she really did try to reach out and find a place that would take him.

 

[Roxie04]

Well, the more accurate picture you should have is of him lying strapped down on a table with a needle in him as his last breath of life leaves his body and I don't really think it breaks your heart. If it did, you would not have been able to sign that paper and walk away knowing what you've just done.

How long did you give Beagle Rescue to call you back? How many other rescue groups did you contact? There are probably over 50 in the tri-state area.

And it is a matter of fault. Your fault. Your fault for not getting him training. Your fault of not allowing time to find him another home. Your fault for not crating him when you couldn't be attentive to him so he wasn't destructive. Can't believe he chewed up a screen in your porch while you were watching him and if he did that speaks more about you than him.

I didn't fault you for trying to find him another home but just asked you about training methods you had tried. But this action leads me to believe you only "tried" to find a home for what, about a week?

Well, guess you can go along now and have your "Merry Christmas".

Why don't YOU go get the dog.............

 

[sockgirl77]

Seems like the ball was in your court, Tipsy... Well, all in all it shows she really did try to reach out and find a place that would take him.

One of two things. I know Tipsy very well and he's a pretty stand up guy. Either he saw the post about it being destructive AFTER he PM'd her OR he has not logged in since then. He doesn't log in every day. :shrug:

 

[tes218]

Why don't YOU go get the dog.............

Because I have 6 dogs and 4 cats. All because of people like Libby. I don't have a shelter, I have a home and work full time. Every spare bedroom has animals in it. There were other options for her that she didn't want to take. I realize not all animals can be saved but one that is already in a home with people trying to help her if more time was allowed is what bothers me. And then coming on here saying it bothers her. This is not a case of someone losing their home, lost their job, kids with allergies, etc. This dog was crate trained, good with kids, didn't bite anyone, never showed aggression which would require a quick removal from a home, etc. The dog did nothing other than act like an dog that didn't receive proper boundaries. He loses his life while we are supposed to say "Aw..that's ok, Libby, you tried". Again,

 

[thatguy]

Because I have 6 dogs and 4 cats. All because of people like Libby. I don't have a shelter, I have a home and work full time. Every spare bedroom has animals in it. There were other options for her that she didn't want to take. I realize not all animals can be saved but one that is already in a home with people trying to help her if more time was allowed is what bothers me. And then coming on here saying it bothers her. This is not a case of someone losing their home, lost their job, kids with allergies, etc. This dog was crate trained, good with kids, didn't bite anyone, never showed aggression which would require a quick removal from a home, etc. The dog did nothing other than act like an dog that didn't receive proper boundaries. He loses his life while we are supposed to say "Aw..that's ok, Libby, you tried". Again,

sounds like one more dog isnt going to increase your burden or make your house stink any more than it already does

the other poster certainly doesn't need you intentionally trying to make her feel worse about a difficult situation.

unless you want to take the dog, leave the issue alone, because so far all that you have done is treat another HUMAN like crap because you have passed judgement on her without having walked a day in her shoes.

 

[itsbob]

Well, the more accurate picture you should have is of him lying strapped down on a table with a needle in him as his last breath of life leaves his body and I don't really think it breaks your heart. If it did, you would not have been able to sign that paper and walk away knowing what you've just done.

How long did you give Beagle Rescue to call you back? How many other rescue groups did you contact? There are probably over 50 in the tri-state area.

And it is a matter of fault. Your fault. Your fault for not getting him training. Your fault of not allowing time to find him another home. Your fault for not crating him when you couldn't be attentive to him so he wasn't destructive. Can't believe he chewed up a screen in your porch while you were watching him and if he did that speaks more about you than him.

I didn't fault you for trying to find him another home but just asked you about training methods you had tried. But this action leads me to believe you only "tried" to find a home for what, about a week?

Well, guess you can go along now and have your "Merry Christmas".

You're an azzhole

 

[libby]

Sorry, not buying it one bit. She had the dog for over 1 year and couldn't hold onto it for a little longer to find it a home or for an opening in a rescue group? I think she just wanted it gone for the holidays which is the worse time to try to find a new home. No one had room within her 1 week allotted time so take the easy road and drop it for someone else to handle. Rescue groups are packed now and it is unrealistic to expect a place to open up with just a few days notice. Everyone is scrambling trying to contact possible fosters and rearrange schedules and animals while maintaining full time jobs, families, personal animals and oh yea, our own shopping and decorating.

Whether or not I step forward or not does not excuse her lack of compassion or doing the work to find a home. If I took the dog does that make her any less culpable for her actions? I can not commend her for her decision to take a dog (which can be crated) from a warm home where it was safe to a shelter and then so along posting "Merry Christmas".

You think? YOU THINK?? Like I give a crap what YOU THINK! I had to find a home or a shelter before my dear daughter had to say goodbye AGAIN! Yeah, I'm more concerned about her than the dog.

 

[Roxie04]

Because I have 6 dogs and 4 cats. All because of people like Libby. I don't have a shelter, I have a home and work full time. Every spare bedroom has animals in it. There were other options for her that she didn't want to take. I realize not all animals can be saved but one that is already in a home with people trying to help her if more time was allowed is what bothers me. And then coming on here saying it bothers her. This is not a case of someone losing their home, lost their job, kids with allergies, etc. This dog was crate trained, good with kids, didn't bite anyone, never showed aggression which would require a quick removal from a home, etc. The dog did nothing other than act like an dog that didn't receive proper boundaries. He loses his life while we are supposed to say "Aw..that's ok, Libby, you tried". Again,

I agree with some things you have said. But I will not attack her as others have for her decision when I can't help the situation myself.

 

[libby]

Below is how our messages went last Wednesday. I guess I didn't make a further inquiry other than in these messages, which may be my fault, but I did not turn down the dog or decide against it.

by tipsymcgee
Have you found a rescue group or someone who can take the dog? I will gladly take it to keep from going to the shelter, so just let me know. I have a beagle and one bassett/beagle mix.

by libby
No, we haven't found anyone yet. We did have an immediate response so for a few days we've been hopeful, but just this morning they decided they couldn't.
Where are you located?

By tipsymcgee
I work in White Plains but live in Bushwood, about 10 minutes past Leonardtown. I can meet you just about anywhere.

by libby
If you're serious, we could meet in Leonardtown. Although wouldn't you want to meet the dog first? I've really got to find a home for him by Friday. My 13 y/o daughter comes home from a trip on Saturday and we told her before she left that she had to say goodbye. The emotional toll on her if she has to say good bye again would be brutal. We'll have to take him somewhere Saturday before we pick her up if we don't find another home for him.



by tipsymcgee
Yes, can meet any time in the evening. Would like to meet it first. Is it housetrained at all? I'm heading home now so won't answer any messages until I get there, past 7 or so.

by libby
He is house trained (unless you count the kids' toys on the floor) and crate trained. He's even pretty obedient; sit, stay, etc.


That's how it ended. Never had an offer to meet, and unfortunately I did not make initiate one further. We are taking in another foster through a dropoff at All Kinds next week.

Geez, I wasn't trying to point fingers or lay blame. I certainly wasn't about to tell anyone who you were; as I said, if you opted against our dog that is your business and your business alone. I don't question or blame you. Your post sounds like you think I hold you responsible. I hope I am wrong.

 

[Beta84]

Well, the more accurate picture you should have is of him lying strapped down on a table with a needle in him as his last breath of life leaves his body and I don't really think it breaks your heart. If it did, you would not have been able to sign that paper and walk away knowing what you've just done.

How long did you give Beagle Rescue to call you back? How many other rescue groups did you contact? There are probably over 50 in the tri-state area.

And it is a matter of fault. Your fault. Your fault for not getting him training. Your fault of not allowing time to find him another home. Your fault for not crating him when you couldn't be attentive to him so he wasn't destructive. Can't believe he chewed up a screen in your porch while you were watching him and if he did that speaks more about you than him.

I didn't fault you for trying to find him another home but just asked you about training methods you had tried. But this action leads me to believe you only "tried" to find a home for what, about a week?

Well, guess you can go along now and have your "Merry Christmas".

sounds like you should either adopt that dog or contact libby, find out which dog it is and where it's located, and do your best to find that dog a new owner. Otherwise you're letting that dog reach its fate the same way libby is, you hypocrite. Actually, if not for libby that dog would already be dead long ago.

 

[libby]

Because I have 6 dogs and 4 cats. All because of people like Libby. I don't have a shelter, I have a home and work full time. Every spare bedroom has animals in it. There were other options for her that she didn't want to take. I realize not all animals can be saved but one that is already in a home with people trying to help her if more time was allowed is what bothers me. And then coming on here saying it bothers her. This is not a case of someone losing their home, lost their job, kids with allergies, etc. This dog was crate trained, good with kids, didn't bite anyone, never showed aggression which would require a quick removal from a home, etc. The dog did nothing other than act like an dog that didn't receive proper boundaries. He loses his life while we are supposed to say "Aw..that's ok, Libby, you tried". Again,

Think again. As I posted before, I am not the owner of this dogs "parents". I did not allow for irresponsible breeding.
Sorry, I do not think of animals the way I think of children. If this were a child in danger, or who needed a home or anything else, I would go to the extent of giving up all my worldly goods to save the child.
But not for a dog.

 

[thatguy]

Think again. As I posted before, I am not the owner of this dogs "parents". I did not allow for irresponsible breeding.
Sorry, I do not think of animals the way I think of children. If this were a child in danger, or who needed a home or anything else, I would go to the extent of giving up all my worldly goods to save the child.
But not for a dog.

you dont have anything to explain to that dummy.

As an adult with real issues and responsibilites, you made the best decision for you.

 

[tes218]

sounds like you should either adopt that dog or contact libby, find out which dog it is and where it's located, and do your best to find that dog a new owner. Otherwise you're letting that dog reach its fate the same way libby is, you hypocrite. Actually, if not for libby that dog would already be dead long ago.

To speak out against an unjustice is not being a hypocrite. I do all that I can. It would be hypocritical to say one thing and then turn my own dogs into the shelter or give them away or never take in a stray or owner give up.

You can't say he would have been dead unless his time was up that day. We don't know that. Who knows if another family would have adopted him before his time was up. Now he is older so less adoptable and at this time of year not many people are looking to adopt. My main problem with the situation is that she didn't allow the time for others to help. Putting a thread on here and giving 1 weeks time is very unrealistic. If she wanted to rehome him that would have been fine. If you go back and read you will see where I never said a word against her until today. I asked about crate training, methods she used to try to train and if she sought the advice from a professional.

Unfortunately, what's done is done.

 

[tes218]

Think again. As I posted before, I am not the owner of this dogs "parents". I did not allow for irresponsible breeding.
Sorry, I do not think of animals the way I think of children. If this were a child in danger, or who needed a home or anything else, I would go to the extent of giving up all my worldly goods to save the child.
But not for a dog.

When I said "people like Libby" I was referring to people who turned in their pets to shelters. I'm really confused as to why you think because you didn't breed the dog's parents you wouldn't be responsible for a dog or any animal under your care. No one said anything about giving up your "worldly goods", which by the way speaks volumes of what you think is important. Just a little time to find a home. Was that really so much to ask? Guess so.

 

[tes218]

Well, like I said before, what's done is done. "It is finished" Remind you of anyone, Libby? Oh, Merry Christmas.

 

[Beta84]

When I said "people like Libby" I was referring to people who turned in their pets to shelters. I'm really confused as to why you think because you didn't breed the dog's parents you wouldn't be responsible for a dog or any animal under your care. No one said anything about giving up your "worldly goods", which by the way speaks volumes of what you think is important. Just a little time to find a home. Was that really so much to ask? Guess so.

since you're so adament on defending dogs or cats, what is your opinion on goats, pigs, cows, llamas, and emus?

 

[libby]

When I said "people like Libby" I was referring to people who turned in their pets to shelters. I'm really confused as to why you think because you didn't breed the dog's parents you wouldn't be responsible for a dog or any animal under your care. No one said anything about giving up your "worldly goods", which by the way speaks volumes of what you think is important. Just a little time to find a home. Was that really so much to ask? Guess so.

Reading comprehension. Give it a try. When I said "worldly goods" it was to say that I would gladly surrender them for a human being. But as I said pages ago, my husband's work is being destroyed day in and day out. No way am I going to put him through the headache and heartache of flushing his hard work down the proverbial drain. He means more to me than the dog, too.
Thatguy, I appreciate your defense of the humane, yet reasonable and responsible decision that had to be made.
It baffles me to no end that, in general, people seem to think that the rest of the world must do things their way.
Not everyone has to be an animal lover, to the point that every room is filled with them.
My priorities are my husband and children, and if an animal adds joy to our lives, great! However, if it causes destruction and arguing because it cannot be controlled after reasonable efforts, the animal goes.

 

[thatguy]

When I said "people like Libby" I was referring to people who turned in their pets to shelters. I'm really confused as to why you think because you didn't breed the dog's parents you wouldn't be responsible for a dog or any animal under your care. No one said anything about giving up your "worldly goods", which by the way speaks volumes of what you think is important. Just a little time to find a home. Was that really so much to ask? Guess so.

your pie hole, it should be shutting now

 

[libby]

Well, like I said before, what's done is done. "It is finished" Remind you of anyone, Libby? Oh, Merry Christmas.

Oh puuulllleeeezzzzzeeee!