Apple introduces Safari for Windows

sparkyaclown said:
Apparently I'm alone in my beliefs on how a tabbed browser should work. :shrug:


Sorry, but I think you're right. :lol:

I just open a new window then go to the site where I want to go. :shrug:
 

sparkyaclown

Active Member
Speedy70 said:
Sorry, but I think you're right. :lol:

I just open a new window then go to the site where I want to go. :shrug:

I'm just lazy, I want to do in one-click what it takes you a few clicks to do. :diva:
 

mainman

Set Trippin
Here ya go Pat...

Don't use it on Windows just yet

By Alex Zaharov-Reutt

Wednesday, 13 June 2007

Numerous reports of bugs within the beta of Apple's latest browser, Safari 3, in both the Mac and Windows versions, make it good to play around with but not to use as your everyday browser.

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Although all browsers have security issues uncovered on a relatively regular basis, most of which are rapidly patched up with updates and fixes, the latest beta version of Safari has been put to the test by a number of security researchers, as reported by PC Magazine and others, and is so far failing a lot of security tests.

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Problems with Safari uncovered so far include DoS and remote execution bugs, memory corruption that could be exploited, command execution vulnerabilities simply by visiting a web site - and that's just in the last couple of days. Security researchers are bound to find more bugs in the system, or more ghosts in the machine for Apple to eliminate.

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But if the security researchers have been looking for Safari's vulnerabilities, you can be sure that the 'bad guys' are doing the same right now too. Web sites that already carry malware or target unpatched browsers on unpatched or old Windows operating systems will soon start targeting Safari as well.

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Undoubtedly, Apple will quickly release fixes and updates for Safari on both the Mac and PC, both before and after the 'final' 3.0 release of Safari arrives, just as IE and Firefox do today.

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More at link.

http://www.itwire.com.au/content/view/12856/1103/
 

Ender

Undercover Geek
But..

The problem with any and all browsers is that they will have bugs in them. Lets all go back to the times of Lynx and text-based browsers with no-HTML/XTML/PHP... wait, stop looking at me like I'm crazy. In all seriousness though, as long as a browser is heavily used ('mainstream') it will have security holes. Internet Explorer 7 does, Firefox 2 does, Opera 9 does, Safari does... it doesn't matter at the end of the day. Just make sure you have a decent firewall, anti-spy(ad)ware, and anti-virus - you should be alright.
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As for being a little more on-topic: Safari for PC is alright. It is kind of weird feeling, considering I'm not a big Mac fan (I'll be honest about that). Although, since I've done technical support for Macs in the past - it's nice to see some of the same places to change information. Perhaps once it gets out of beta that some ISP's Technical Support will support it on PC as well as a Mac. Who's to say..?
 

sparkyaclown

Active Member
Ender said:
The problem with any and all browsers is that they will have bugs in them. Lets all go back to the times of Lynx and text-based browsers with no-HTML/XTML/PHP... wait, stop looking at me like I'm crazy. In all seriousness though, as long as a browser is heavily used ('mainstream') it will have security holes. Internet Explorer 7 does, Firefox 2 does, Opera 9 does, Safari does... it doesn't matter at the end of the day. Just make sure you have a decent firewall, anti-spy(ad)ware, and anti-virus - you should be alright.
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As for being a little more on-topic: Safari for PC is alright. It is kind of weird feeling, considering I'm not a big Mac fan (I'll be honest about that). Although, since I've done technical support for Macs in the past - it's nice to see some of the same places to change information. Perhaps once it gets out of beta that some ISP's Technical Support will support it on PC as well as a Mac. Who's to say..?

Indeed. I found it more concerning that so many were found in such a short time frame. May be best to wait until its out of beta for all but advanced users.
 

Ender

Undercover Geek
Not to sound like I'm bashing Apple when I say this (though it may come out that way); but, most of the PC-based applications that Apple has made has had plenty of bugs and security issues. I do commend them on trying to work multi-platforms (while being a leader in the OS industry as well); but, perhaps they should try to linger back to their own system as they know/understand it better. Windows, itself, can be a bit problematic in regards to developing (security-wise, I'm saying). And to toss the coin, Microsoft's software on Apple (Microsoft Office, for instance) has been known to cause horrible bugs and crashes as well - same logic applies at the end of the day.
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And I would have to agree with you as well, if you don't know your system very well (security-wise and "geek sense", as some would call it) - stay clear of Safari until it's come out of Beta release. Sometimes once it gets to gold/official release, majority of the most "insecure" bugs are fixed anyways.
 
Ender said:
Microsoft's software on Apple (Microsoft Office, for instance) has been known to cause horrible bugs and crashes as well - same logic applies at the end of the day.

Really? My husband and 10 year old stepson use parallels on their machines with zero problems. I also have Microsoft Office on my MacBook Pro and have never had a problem. :shrug:
 

Ender

Undercover Geek
Speedy70 said:
Really? My husband and 10 year old stepson use parallels on their machines with zero problems. I also have Microsoft Office on my MacBook Pro and have never had a problem. :shrug:

The rule of thumb in computing: "What works for one, will not work for all." Microsoft Office for Mac has been through a lot of changes, sure - but there are still many people having problems with it. I do remember a few co-workers having problems when it first came out; but, I'm certain that all of the bugs haven't been worked out. It's just how software reacts to other software as well; PCs and Macs both have that "oh no, that program is touching the other program in the wrong way" problem from time to time. =)
 
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