Are You a Good Person?

[PsyOps]

Am I to conclude from your reply that in order to believe in the essence of the "ten commandments", one must believe in Christ? Is it not possible for one who does not believe in Christ to behave in accordance with these same tenets ?

As it appears you failed the test too, so without some sort of salvation (or forgiveness) plan where does that leave you? It’s not the test of whether you have committed these sins but rather have you accepted Christ as your savior, that through this belief your sins are washed away. This, by no means, implies that you will never sin again, it only means that you have received forgiveness. This, by no means, implies that now you have all the liberty to go about sinning it all up because you are forgiven anyway (as JPC would try to make you believe). God knows your heart and whether your asking for forgiveness is genuine or not.

This is less about the essence of the Ten Commandments and more about salvation. I believe, in essence, that I will be a millionaire one day, but unless I get a job what have I actually done beyond wishing for it? You can believe in the essence of the Ten Cs all you want, but without Christ it is all for nothing, because it is impossible to not sin as the Bible says “for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God” (Romans 3:23). We are sinners by our very nature. Just as we are born as humans we are born sinners. So God provides a solution to be forgiven.

But if you don’t believe in Christ then this discussion is pointless.

 

[PsyOps]

Plus the Bible never says that people have a "free will" and considering the violent pressure on people then I would add that very few people have an opportunity for expressing their "free will."

In fact, in my experience, I would say that it takes great effort and few even try.

Wait a minute here... if there is no free will then how can "very few people have an opportunity for expressing their free will"? And doesn't something that takes great effort to do require a certain level of free will? And if some don't even try, isn't that exercising free will? :shrug:

 

[2ndAmendment]

For someone who claims he has studied the bible, he sure doesn't know much about what it says, does he?

Now that is the truth.

 

[JPC sr]

Batman

Wait a minute here... if there is no free will then how can "very few people have an opportunity for expressing their free will"? And doesn't something that takes great effort to do require a certain level of free will? And if some don't even try, isn't that exercising free will? :shrug:

I did not say there was no free will, I say that people seem to believe they are expressing free will when in fact the vast majority are doing as directed by others.

If you say choosing chocolate or vanella is free will then my standard is far higher then that.

I mean free will in choosing life activities or living conditions and particularly the ability to defy injustices.

It use to be told that a prisoner could choose hanging or bullet death and called that a free will choice.

My particular point is that free will must be backed up by will-power which is what Christ and the scriptures teach and I see little of that going around.

One can choose to be a Doctor or Lawyer but for one to choose to be "no part of this world" takes great will-power to exercize that simple free will.

This is in my opinion and my perspective, of course.

 

[This_person]

I did not say there was no free will, I say that people seem to believe they are expressing free will when in fact the vast majority are doing as directed by others.

If you say choosing chocolate or vanella is free will then my standard is far higher then that.

I mean free will in choosing life activities or living conditions and particularly the ability to defy injustices.

It use to be told that a prisoner could choose hanging or bullet death and called that a free will choice.

My particular point is that free will must be backed up by will-power which is what Christ and the scriptures teach and I see little of that going around.

One can choose to be a Doctor or Lawyer but for one to choose to be "no part of this world" takes great will-power to exercize that simple free will.

This is in my opinion and my perspective, of course.

You're describing strength of character, not free will. The will is chocolate or vanilla, or neither. The choice of the criminal was to not commit the crime, or face the consequences of his/her actions. Sometimes, free will is limited due to physical constraints of others, but the free will you describe - the "will-power", is strength (or lack thereof, in your case) of character.

 

[PsyOps]

I did not say there was no free will, I say that people seem to believe they are expressing free will when in fact the vast majority are doing as directed by others.

If you say choosing chocolate or vanella is free will then my standard is far higher then that.

I mean free will in choosing life activities or living conditions and particularly the ability to defy injustices.

It use to be told that a prisoner could choose hanging or bullet death and called that a free will choice.

My particular point is that free will must be backed up by will-power which is what Christ and the scriptures teach and I see little of that going around.

One can choose to be a Doctor or Lawyer but for one to choose to be "no part of this world" takes great will-power to exercize that simple free will.

This is in my opinion and my perspective, of course.

Your tendency to over-analyze things discredits your point.

 

[Roughidle]

The first slide of the "test" makes the rest of it a moot point. If the objective of the "test" is to self determine your qualification/worthiness to get into heaven, by taking it you've already failed.

 

[PsyOps]

The first slide of the "test" makes the rest of it a moot point. If the objective of the "test" is to self determine your qualification/worthiness to get into heaven, by taking it you've already failed.

This ignores the overall intent of the "test", which is: it doesn't matter if you have broken any of the 10 Cs as long as you have accepted Christ. THAT is the qualification.

 

[Roughidle]

I'm quite aware of the intent of the test. It's an advertisement.
If it helps steer some indiviuals into a healthier and better life good on'em.

 

[PsyOps]

I'm quite aware of the intent of the test. It's an advertisement.
If it helps steer some indiviuals into a healthier and better life good on'em.

Just making sure...

 

[Marie]

I'm quite aware of the intent of the test. It's an advertisement.
If it helps steer some indiviuals into a healthier and better life good on'em.

Yo Dude,
Take the test, you missed the whole point!
Its not all about us, or this exsistance.
Contary to the modern Gospel or man centered religon.
Its all about Gods amazing grace, creating a means of salvation, His perfect plan, that brings honor and Golry and praise to him.