Asheville police destroy aid station

[glhs837]

We live in a civilized society where even the poorest person can afford ice, and typically knows how to make it. So when I run across someone who doesn't know the recipe for ice it throws me for a loop.

Really, so these antifa folks the aid workers were assiting came to the riot, grabbed the water bottles, took them where to freeze them, then after waiting 30 minutes for the water to freeze, then assaulted the cops with them? Sorry, why wouldn't the atifa ididots just freeze water in moms basement before leaving?

We end up where we sometimes do, where you are required to make massive leaps in logic to support your case. Or leaps of a shark tank, as it seems to be here.

Dont get me wrong, I know antifidiots are runnig around throwing stuff at cops and destroying stuff, wanting more chaos, as is thier wont. I just fail to believe these 12 medical professionals were a antifa cell running a black ops rioter renewal operation......

Occams razor says they were handing water out to hot people, and patching up people catching injuries in the course of events.

 

[glhs837]

Not concerned with being hit by a water bottle? Let's do some math for the mentally challenged:

1 fluid ounce of water weighs slightly more than 1 ounce. So a 8 fluid ounce water bottle weighs 8 ounces, or 1/2 pound. Most water bottles are 12 fluid ounces so that is 12 ounces hitting you in the head. Considering a baseball only weighs 5-5.25 ounces, I'm not to sure a 12 ounce water bottle will feel very nice. Most people can throw a baseball around 60 to 80 MPH. Throw it at half the speed of the average baseball player (not a pitcher) and you get 12 ounces hitting you in the head going 30-40 mph. We won't even get into the math of throwing the bottle in an arc and letting gravity speed it up before impact.

See the problem with water bottles as weapons now?

Most all your officers are wearing helmets of some kind. Feel nice? Nope, lasting injury? Unless the guy was a foot away powering it into your head full force, or dropping it off a 20 story building, meh. For the record, I do NOT approve of people thowing anything more than confetti at officers. My point is that out of all the things for 20 officer to do in the middle of a freakin riot, stabbing water bottles seems like a huge waste of time and manpower.

 

[Chris0nllyn]

We live in a civilized society where even the poorest person can afford ice, and typically knows how to make it. So when I run across someone who doesn't know the recipe for ice it throws me for a loop.

I can imagine.

Not sure what that has to do with this conversation though.

Not concerned with being hit by a water bottle? Let's do some math for the mentally challenged:

1 fluid ounce of water weighs slightly more than 1 ounce. So a 8 fluid ounce water bottle weighs 8 ounces, or 1/2 pound. Most water bottles are 12 fluid ounces so that is 12 ounces hitting you in the head. Considering a baseball only weighs 5-5.25 ounces, I'm not to sure a 12 ounce water bottle will feel very nice. Most people can throw a baseball around 60 to 80 MPH. Throw it at half the speed of the average baseball player (not a pitcher) and you get 12 ounces hitting you in the head going 30-40 mph. We won't even get into the math of throwing the bottle in an arc and letting gravity speed it up before impact.

See the problem with water bottles as weapons now?

Wouldn't it be nice of police had things like riot shields, helmets, padding, or other protective outerwear. Something like this:

I bet that would help.

 

[BOP]

This reminded me of 1 of our day trips around the SW US. On a road we kept seeing gallon jugs of water along the guard rail. Turns out people put water out for the illegals so they can quench their thirst as they elude border patrol. And there were dozens of the jugs along a few miles of the road.

They do that along stretches of desert between the Mexican border and civilization in remote areas of California, and I presume the other border states. Every once in a while, one of the bleeding hearts ends up getting killed by one of the poor, lost individuals just trying to make a better life for themselves in the US.

 

[BernieP]

Well....

"We apologize for not being able to confiscate these supplies last night," Zack said in a news release. "Over the past three days, APD has tried to eliminate objects that can be thrown at protesters and law enforcement. Because water bottles, in particular, have been continuously used over the last three nights, officers destroyed them. Officers also searched for potentially dangerous objects, such as explosives."

He said the medical station was on private property without permission of the owner.

Honestly, these anarchist AntiFa rioters lie. They commit crimes and assault people, then tell the press that they dint do nuffin and the 5-0 just picked on them for no reason.

It's impossible to form an opinion based on their word alone, unless you just want to confirm some bias.

Thank you.
I was going to say there was probably a story that wasn't being told.

 

[BernieP]

Wouldn't it be nice of police had things like riot shields, helmets, padding, or other protective outerwear. Something like this:

I bet that would help.

If only rioters would hit the shield. Have you ever been hit in the head while wearing a helmet?
It's akin to being struck in a ballistic vest by a bullet. It may not kill you but it hurts like hell and can still do damage.
Contrary to popular belief, hitting the skull doesn't cause the concussion, it's the sudden impact of brain matter hitting skull


I'm sure these men and women want to be out there busting up an "aid and abet station" than at home with their family.

 

[vraiblonde]

Thank you.
I was going to say there was probably a story that wasn't being told.

It's interesting that, um, some people are all kerfluffle over the police shutting this missile factory down, considering those AntiFa scamps are targeting legitimate protesters as well as cops.

It's almost like they're cheering on the violence.

 

[glhs837]

It's interesting that, um, some people are all kerfluffle over the police shutting this missile factory down, considering those AntiFa scamps are targeting legitimate protesters as well as cops.

It's almost like they're cheering on the violence.

Ah, there it is, the ol' Vrai ridiculous overstatement and massive mischaracterization. Missile factory, when you have no idea if any of these were actually used that way, nor if they actually gave any to anyone other than thirsty protestors.

 

[Midnightrider]

Ah, there it is, the ol' Vrai ridiculous overstatement and massive mischaracterization. Missile factory, when you have no idea if any of these were actually used that way, nor if they actually gave any to anyone other than thirsty protestors.

In her mind antifa has the power to freeze water In seconds and then make bazookas out of bandages And cardboard.

She’s about to stomp off any minute

 

[Bann]

Throwing objects at law enforcement is generally frowned upon. Not sure why we are splitting hairs over what is considered dangerous or not.

Statement from the Asheville, NC Chief of Police:

A statement from Asheville Police Chief David Zack:

Transparency and accountability is what our community expects and deserves. As the Chief of Police I understand the concern has been raised over the destruction of water, food, and medical supplies. The Asheville Police Department (APD) would always prefer confiscation over destruction. We apologize for not being able to confiscate these supplies last night.

Over the past three days APD has tried to eliminate objects that can be thrown at protesters and law enforcement. Because water bottles, in particular, have been continuously used over the last three nights, officers destroyed them. Officers also searched for potentially dangerous objects, such as explosives.

The supply station was not permitted by the City of Asheville and was located on private property, without the permission of the property owner. The actions involving the supply station occurred following multiple warnings, and after the 8 p.m. city-wide curfew.

Last night, the city-wide curfew, coupled with law enforcement strategies and peaceful protesters, led to no physical injuries and minor property damage in the downtown area.

We care about the safety of the protesters in our community. The Asheville Fire Department and the Buncombe County Emergency Medical Services (EMS) are always available, and have been staffed during the events, to treat those with injuries. Both of these agencies have been closely monitoring the protests for injuries. These services can be requested by contacting 9-1-1.

The people who put the "medic station" where it was did not have permission to do so. They were basically breaking the law by being on private property. Additionally, they were breaking the law by staying there AFTER being warned to leave and being there there after the 8pm curfew.

And they want to cry foul? BS

 

[Bann]

Just like the protesters in Dallas, TX.

OMG, we were arrested, we're so shocked! We were assemblying peacefully!

Dallas Police Chief Renee Hall said protesters in her city have been warned multiple times not to break the law.
Dallas, TX – Dallas Police Chief Renee Hall said that the nearly 700 protesters detained on Monday night should not have been surprised they were arrested because protesters were warned to stay off the Margaret Hunt Hill Bridge.

The police chief disputed protesters’ complaints they weren’t told they couldn’t demonstrate on the bridge that spans the Trinity River west of downtown, KDFW reported.

“We warned them,” Chief Hall said. “They did not stop. They decided to take a knee on the bridge and hold their hands up and say don't shoot.”

“So no one should be surprised because my statement is: If you break the law, we will arrest you,” the police chief added, according to KDFW.

Police arrested 674 protesters and charged them with obstructing a freeway, the Dallas Morning News reported.

They were detained for hours in flexicuffs on the bridge before finally being released with citations.
...snip...

Chief Hall made the call to collect protesters’ information and issue at-large charges for blocking the roadway because there was no room for the almost 700 detainees in the jail, KDFW reported.

She said she had warned police would arrest everybody who broke the law during the protests.

“I stood before you and made myself extremely clear that we will arrest anyone who breaks the law,” the police chief said. “And, although peaceful, the protesters broke the law.”

Activists gathered on Wednesday at Dallas City Hall to protest the treatment of the protesters on Monday night.

Dallas PD Chief Unapologetic After Cops Arrest 674 Protesters At Once - The Police Tribune

Dallas, TX – Dallas Police Chief Renee Hall said that the nearly 700 protesters detained on Monday night should not have been surprised they were arrested because protesters were warned to stay off the Margaret Hunt Hill Bridge. The police chief disputed protesters’ complaints they weren’t told...

defensemaven.io

 

[vraiblonde]

Throwing objects at law enforcement is generally frowned upon. Not sure why we are splitting hairs over what is considered dangerous or not.

Because GL and his buddy MR are AntiFa wannabes who think it makes them look edgy.

 

[herb749]

I can imagine.

Not sure what that has to do with this conversation though.



Wouldn't it be nice of police had things like riot shields, helmets, padding, or other protective outerwear. Something like this:
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I bet that would help.

Taking a piece of plywood and writing Medic on it doesn't mean its a real medic station. Was there any medical personnel on hand..?

 

[Midnightrider]

Because GL and his buddy MR are AntiFa wannabes who think it makes them look edgy.

Bwhahahaha
This bares repeating:

there it is, the ol' Vrai ridiculous overstatement and massive mischaracterization

Did your handlers explain to you how antifa was going to take hot water bottles and freeze them instantly on the street yet?

 

[glhs837]

Because GL and his buddy MR are AntiFa wannabes who think it makes them look edgy.

Yep, thats me.... really, thats what you got? Yep, nobody here is supporting throwing things at law enforcement. If caught doing so, those people should be arrested. We have no idea if this station had anything to do with that. Facts we know.

1. They were trespassing.
2. They had bottled water and medical supplies
3. They were told to leave, and they did not.
4. Officers destroyed not just the water, but also the medical supplies, I assume to prevent random suture attacks of being assaulted with gauze.

Thats it. No other facts I'm aware of. Been yelling about antifa here for years, so go away with your bullsh&^. Also been decrying the reinforced Us vs Them attitude of officers, and we see now the result of that attitude.

Taking a piece of plywood and writing Medic on it doesn't mean its a real medic station. Was there any medical personnel on hand..?

According to the article, all 12 of the people manning that station were medical professionals.

 

[CPUSA]

They were outside and not frozen. They were also scared of bandages? Why destroy bandages?

Water bottles don't kill people. People kill people.

I'll remember to hit you up after the next mass shooting...

 

[glhs837]

I'll remember to hit you up after the next mass shooting...

And, a surprise victor emerges in the Lack of Relevance category today. What the hell does that have to do with this topic?

 

[vraiblonde]

And, a surprise victor emerges in the Lack of Relevance category today. What the hell does that have to do with this topic?

Allow me:

They were outside and not frozen. They were also scared of bandages? Why destroy bandages?

Water bottles don't kill people. People kill people.

I'll remember to hit you up after the next mass shooting...

Should I explain further or did the light come on? Because I can explain further.

 

[glhs837]

Allow me:





Should I explain further or did the light come on? Because I can explain further.

What, we are expecting the next mass shooting to be committed with a water bottle cannon?

 

[gemma_rae]

What, we are expecting the next mass shooting to be committed with a water bottle cannon?

Not with a water bottle cannon, but rather by a water bottle cannon.

You know, like guns do. Not people killing people.