Athiest sues again to ban "Under God"

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Mikeinsmd said:
SAN FRANCISCO, California (AP) -- An atheist who sued because he did not want his young daughter exposed to the words "under God" in the Pledge of Allegiance has filed another lawsuit -- this time with other parents.

It's Michael Newdow again. Somebody shoot this jerk!! :dead:
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People need to get over Sh!t. Everyday a new lawsuit, When will the world just FN grow up. I mean It's not like someone is branding the kid with a cross or anything.
 
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Mikeinsmd said:
this time with other parents.
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Link, please. What's he suing them for? :confused:

Edit: Or do you mean he has other parents joining him in this lawsuit and he's not suing parents?
 
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Mikeinsmd said:
Other parents & himself are suing to ban the words from the pledge of Allegeance.
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Okay, I see.

The plaintiffs' names have been withheld from the lawsuit.

"It's because of the potential adverse impacts of having your name on a case like this. That's why they are not named," Newdow said Wednesday.
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I'm suspicious. How can a plaintiff's name be withheld from a lawsuit? Can you just file anonymous lawsuits now? I don't think there ARE any other parents - I think this guy made that up so it wouldn't seem that he's the only litigious moron.
 
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Think I'm going to sue this guy for banning the words from the Pledge of Allegiance. Why don't I have the same right as he does? He and a few others want to ban the words and will probably get their way sooner or later. I think this azzhole should give me all his money too because it says
"In God We Trust" on U.S. currency
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. He must not believe in the dollar because it has the word "God" on it. I think he should just give it away to me. :lmao:
 
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Vince said:
Think I'm going to sue this guy for banning the words from the Pledge of Allegiance. Why don't I have the same right as he does? He and a few others want to ban the words and will probably get their way sooner or later. I think this azzhole should give me all his money too because it says. He must not believe in the dollar because it has the word "God" on it. I think he should just give it away to me. :lmao:
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I agree that Michael Newdow is a jerk. But I also agree that "Under God" has no place in America's official statement of patriotism. Having the phrase in the pledge implies that Americans of other faiths are unpatriotic or even treasonous.

I should add that most atheists, like most Christians, are not jerks. Newdow and his predecessor, Madelyn Murray O'Hair, are simply publicity hounds who have an unhealthy craving for attention. If these two were fundamentalist Christians, they would still be trolling for the media.
 
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Tonio said:
I agree that Michael Newdow is a jerk. But I also agree that "Under God" has no place in America's official statement of patriotism. Having the phrase in the pledge implies that Americans of other faiths are unpatriotic or even treasonous.

I should add that most atheists, like most Christians, are not jerks. Newdow and his predecessor, Madelyn Murray O'Hair, are simply publicity hounds who have an unhealthy craving for attention. If these two were fundamentalist Christians, they would still be trolling for the media.
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And why don't I have the same rights as they do to have "Under God" in the Pledge of Allegiance? If they have the right to take it out, why don't I have the right to leave it in? What makes him right? The Pledge of Allegiance was originally written with those words contained in it. Why should I have to change it for those that don't believe in God? If he doesn't like them, he doesn't have to say them.
 
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Vince said:
And why don't I have the same rights as they do to have "Under God" in the Pledge of Allegiance?
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Are you suggesting that each of us should have a personalized-to-one's-faith version of the Pledge?

See, it's never a good idea to mix religious faith with patriotic spirit. That is dangerous and corrupting to both patriotism and religion. I'm damned proud of my America, and one of the reasons I love America is that we don't require citizens to worship in a certain way, or to worship at all. Even an unofficial state religion is unAmerican.
 
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Tonio said:
Are you suggesting that each of us should have a personalized-to-one's-faith version of the Pledge?

See, it's never a good idea to mix religious faith with patriotic spirit. That is dangerous and corrupting to both patriotism and religion. I'm damned proud of my America, and one of the reasons I love America is that we don't require citizens to worship in a certain way, or to worship at all. Even an unofficial state religion is unAmerican.
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How is it corrupting?
 
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Actually, it wasn't. "Under God" was added later.
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In 1954, Congress after a campaign by the Knights of Columbus, added the words, 'under God,' to the Pledge. The Pledge was now both a patriotic oath and a public prayer.

My question stands, "What makes him right to remove the words, and me wrong?" If he doesn't want to say that part he doesn't have to. I'm tired of these people that want to go around and shove their politically correct ideas up everyone elses azz just because they want to make a name for themselves.
 
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Vince said:
My question stands, "What makes him right to remove the words, and me wrong?" If he doesn't want to say that part he doesn't have to. I'm tired of these people that want to go around and shove their politically correct ideas up everyone elses azz just because they want to make a name for themselves.
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What gave congress the right to add the words? Isn't that shoving someone's ideas down others throats? It works both ways.
 
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elaine said:
What gave congress the right to add the words? Isn't that shoving someone's ideas down others throats? It works both ways.
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Exactly my point. It does work both ways. Congress must have voted on this at the time and we vote for our Congressmen/women, don't we? Guess the majority of the people must have wanted it in the Pledge of Allegiance at that time. Why should one idiot and a few Judges make a decision that affects everyone? Why not let Congress vote on it again? What do the majority of the people want?
 
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Kain99 said:
How is it corrupting?
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For one thing, decision-making in a democracy involves compromises between opposing points of view. That's contrary to the religious view, which puts everything in good-versus-evil terms. When you mix politics and religion, you end up compromising people's religious beliefs for the sake of political goals. And in politics, you end up treating people who disagrees with you as Satan's spawn.

Also, it does a disservice to devout Christians in other nations. It implies that Americans are God's chosen people and the only true Christians.
 
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elaine said:
What gave congress the right to add the words? Isn't that shoving someone's ideas down others throats? It works both ways.
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:yeahthat: It would be just as wrong to add the words "under no God" to satisfy the athiests, or to add the words "under Gaia" to please the New Agers, or any other permutation. Our official statement of patriotism should be neutral about religion. It shoudn't take sides as to which faith is the "one true faith," because America doesn't have (or shouldn't have) an official state religion or even an unofficial one.
 
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Tonio said:
For one thing, decision-making in a democracy involves compromises between opposing points of view. That's contrary to the religious view, which puts everything in good-versus-evil terms. When you mix politics and religion, you end up compromising people's religious beliefs for the sake of political goals. And in politics, you end up treating people who disagrees with you as Satan's spawn.

Also, it does a disservice to devout Christians in other nations. It implies that Americans are God's chosen people and the only true Christians.
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I'm pretty sure, we are God's chosen people dude.... :lmao:
 
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I don't care one way or the other, I'm just pointing out some fundamentals that people are missing. The words have been changed three times already. I wonder if the first three times caused such a big stink. :rolleyes: I just think it's silly to get all worked up over something that isn't in it's original version in the first place.
 
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Could argue this point all day long, but the fact remains that the words are still part of the Pledge of Allegiance until Congress says they are not.
 
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