Athiest sues again to ban "Under God"

[Mikeinsmd]

Like the article stated this is already running a 0-4 handicap and probably won't be given much credence by any court (though it is in the Ninth Circuit and we know how fruity the Californian judges are). What would be sweet would be to make the filers pay for the costs the government incurs to defend these type suits when they get defeated again. That would certainly keep future morons from filing additional suits on the same matter.

 

[Ken King]

Good points, Ken. Of course the Founders' faith influenced the Declaration and the Constitution. That doesn't mean they intended to establish a state religion, official or unofficial.

And I think your comment about "freedom from religion" misses my point. Our government should be neutral when it comes to different religious faiths, especially in America's official statement of patriotism. While I don't think "under God" in the Pledge causes tangible harm to people (despite Newdow's boneheaded claims), I think it does go against the principle of freedom of religion.

And it is neutral. It is certain people, the ones saying that don't want any religious reference or influence, that are saying that they are intertwined. The only restriction upon our government is that Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof. Saying that there is a God or honoring one does not violate that edict.

 

[Tonio]

Saying that there is a God or honoring one does not violate that edict.

I don't see it that way. When Congress insert a phrase into the Pledge declaring the existence of a monothestic God, that certainly "respects an establishment of religion," in this case, those religions whose belief systems include a monotheistic God.

 

[ylexot]

In the book I've been reading, there was a quote from one of the Founders stating that religion is good/necessary and that the Christian religion in particular is well suited for our form of government. I'll have to find that and post it tonight.

 

[Ken King]

I don't see it that way. When Congress insert a phrase into the Pledge declaring the existence of a monothestic God, that certainly "respects an establishment of religion," in this case, those religions whose belief systems include a monotheistic God.

And that is why you need a shrink and I don't.

 

[pixiegirl]

My spidey senses detect a SOMD lawsuit very soon!

 

[fishn guy]

My spidey senses detect a SOMD lawsuit very soon!

bad bad peeps.....

 

[Elle]

My spidey senses detect a SOMD lawsuit very soon!

I'll bet she tries to sue to take away her karma points and use them for her own

 

[crabcake]

I'll bet she tries to sue to take away her karma points and use them for her own

kno won weel ever hert my krama withot a fite on der hands

 

[RoseRed]

My spidey senses detect a SOMD lawsuit very soon!

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to pixiegirl again.

 

[Mikeinsmd]

kno won weel ever hert my krama withot a fite on der hands

CC you are RIOT!!!!

 

[dems4me]

:shakesheadsadlyandwalksaway:

 

[Ken King]

:shakesheadsadlyandwalksaway:

Just like a maraca.

 

[fishn guy]

kno won weel ever hert my krama withot a fite on der hands

Im not positive but Im pretty sure I just crapped my drawers....

 

[ylexot]

In the book I've been reading, there was a quote from one of the Founders stating that religion is good/necessary and that the Christian religion in particular is well suited for our form of government. I'll have to find that and post it tonight.

This isn't the quote I was looking for, but it is a good one regarding the Christian roots of the country.

"The Christian religion, when divested of the rags in which they [the clergy] have enveloped it, and brought to the original purity and simplicity of it's benevolent institutor, is a religion of all others most friendly to liberty, science, and the freest expansion of the human mind." --Thomas Jefferson to Moses Robinson, 1801. ME 10:237