Ayanna Pressley - More Progressive Stupidity

UglyBear

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“Policy violence “ — not exactly, that implies somebody did it to you.

More like policy “hanging yourself off the bar in the closet with a belt and pleasuring yourself” analogy.
 

gemma_rae

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"Today, over 43 million people in the U.S. are crushed under more than $1.7 trillion in student loan debt."

She seems to forget that this is debt that the debtors willingly incurred. So maybe they should be declared a danger to themselves and held for psychiatric evaluation if they are inflicting violence upon themselves.
 

Hijinx

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If you don't get a loan there is no need to pay it back.
That is basic.
The people who got these loans should have thought about that before they took them out.

Where were the parents of these kids who failed to teach them basic honesty and economics.
Who failed to teach them that taking out loans are a responsibility to pay them back.
Taking out loans for thousand and thousands of dollars to study something that will not find you a job that pays enough to repay that debt is not something anyone with enough intelligence to attend a college would do.
Don't get me wrong the Government was stupid to get into this college loan business to start with.
It is one of the reasons why Colleges are so expensive now.
But why should I have to pay for the college education of a child that is not mine.
 

Gilligan

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I'm willing to incur a crushing loan debt so I can buy the yacht I cannot otherwise afford, as long as that cun...er..nice lady Pressley can assure me that the debt will be forgiven without payment. :smokingwin:
 

SamSpade

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Hate to say it, but I sure wouldn't mind a little loan forgiveness. Wife had it before we even met twenty plus years ago - and she is still paying it off. At this rate, she'll still be paying it when she RETIRES.

But it really points to something entirely different. Is there any good reason why college education should cost the same as a HOUSE? What is so freaking costly about teaching stuff for a few years? The buildings? Salaries? It sure ain't the hours. Three hours a week per class. What a racket.

No, there's no reason college should cost so much except that there's no reason to LOWER costs.
 

PrchJrkr

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I consider student loan debt a very, very bad investment strategy. Isn't the reason for higher education to land a job in a field that pays well? These "students" generally go for degrees with very limited earning potential. Stupid should be painful, then maybe people will learn to live within their means. Most consider college a 4 year party and don't realize that they're racking up these incredible bills. Eventually, the piper must be compensated. It's not the lenders or taxpayers fault that the borrowers are too stupid to understand this simple concept. It's basic economics. /rant
 

spr1975wshs

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I had student loan debt after my failed attempt to get a degree in the late 70's. I got a job and used that to pay it off. I was still living with my parents, paid rent and helped with grocery money, but I paid it all off in 5 years, a little over 2 years after I got married. Did not incur other debts, like credit cards or an auto loan. Had no mortgage as we did live in base housing at the time. Even managed to build up some savings.
 

Monello

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Progressive stupidity is a redundant phrase.

Loans are a tool. It's a pity that many haven't learned to nuances of properly using that tool. Like power tools, students loans should come with big red warning labels that if used improperly can cause severe damage.
 

Sneakers

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I had student loan debt after my failed attempt to get a degree in the late 70's. I got a job and used that to pay it off. I was still living with my parents, paid rent and helped with grocery money, but I paid it all off in 5 years, a little over 2 years after I got married. Did not incur other debts, like credit cards or an auto loan. Had no mortgage as we did live in base housing at the time. Even managed to build up some savings.
I had a similar situation, couple years of college with loans, didn't finish, no degree. Put off paying the loan for other things, until I got a couple of calls from the bank. At that point, I took it as a personal failure, an embarrassment. I paid off the loan without missing any payments and vowed to never allow myself to go into unrealistic debt ever again. That's worked very well for me.
 

Hijinx

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Hate to say it, but I sure wouldn't mind a little loan forgiveness. Wife had it before we even met twenty plus years ago - and she is still paying it off. At this rate, she'll still be paying it when she RETIRES.

But it really points to something entirely different. Is there any good reason why college education should cost the same as a HOUSE? What is so freaking costly about teaching stuff for a few years? The buildings? Salaries? It sure ain't the hours. Three hours a week per class. What a racket.

No, there's no reason college should cost so much except that there's no reason to LOWER costs.

One reason that colleges are so expensive is the BS they are teaching.
Black studies, Social studies, Homo studies, Women studies men studies. If you can think of something some ass whole is getting paid for teaching it and studying it. Colleges need to stop teaching and studying Bull sh*t
 

black dog

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"Today, over 43 million people in the U.S. are crushed under more than $1.7 trillion in student loan debt."

She seems to forget that this is debt that the debtors willingly incurred. So maybe they should be declared a danger to themselves and held for psychiatric evaluation if they are inflicting violence upon themselves.

Shame none of those dumbass's were smart enought to enlist and use whats available during enlistment and later the GI Bill....
 

UglyBear

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One reason that colleges are so expensive is the BS they are teaching.
Black studies, Social studies, Homo studies, Women studies men studies. If you can think of something some ass whole is getting paid for teaching it and studying it. Colleges need to stop teaching and studying Bull sh*t
It’s a snowball effect.

When I was going thru college with a very intense class load and limited time to finish it, we, people on real career tracks, would laugh at the temper tantrums of the libs who were trying to make their BS classes mandatory for everybody. back then, even the admin was kindly ignoring them.

BS Classes become mandatory as a job program for graduates of the BS majors, and everyone else suffers. And it keeps on going. Because people can’t admit that a kid duped into Black Studies major, who took out $100k’s of loans, is basically unemployable.
 

LightRoasted

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If I may ...

When a "loan" or debt, such as student loans, cannot be discharged in bankruptcy, by the force of law, then these type of loans become, and are, predatory. Just like going to a loan shark, or seeing Guido at the pastrami shop for a loan.
 

PrchJrkr

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If I may ...

When a "loan" or debt, such as student loans, cannot be discharged in bankruptcy, by the force of law, then these type of loans become, and are, predatory. Just like going to a loan shark, or seeing Guido at the pastrami shop for a loan.
Book smart but as dumb as mud. :yay:
 

black dog

Free America
I'm willing to incur a crushing loan debt so I can buy the yacht I cannot otherwise afford, as long as that cun...er..nice lady Pressley can assure me that the debt will be forgiven without payment. :smokingwin:

When working in the irrigation industry in certain communitys in Waldorf over to PG hundreds ro me I was foolish not to be in debt up to my eyeballs with CC debt and a interest only loan on my home.
I was putting in 10-20,000 dollar irrigation systems in McMansions that had only a breakfast table on the first floor and paper window treatments.
But man they had irrigation and a new 4 series MB in the garage.....
Then the crash.......
 
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