Representative
Ayanna Pressley (D-MA) this week claimed repeatedly that the southern
border is “secure,” leaving CNN anchor Jake Tapper stunned.
“No doubt about it, our border is secure,” Pressley
said Wednesday on CNN. “And we are in the midst of a humanitarian crisis, and we have to fix a broken system —”
“You think it is secure? You think the border is secure? Or it is not secure?” Tapper interrupted her.
“I believe that we are in the midst of a humanitarian crisis and there needs to be federal investment to support those migrant families,” Pressley said, adding that the crisis is a consequence of “longstanding broken policies.”
“I don’t disagree with this being a humanitarian crisis at all, but just to get some clarity on this … do you think that the border is secure? Is that what you said?” Tapper asked again.
“Yes, the border is secure,” Pressley said, adding that the border situation is one reason Congress should avoid the impending government
shutdown.
“But if you have millions of undocumented migrants coming into the country, how is the border secure?” Tapper pressed.
“Jake, this is not a new crisis,” Presley said, adding that the situation requires “more political will and commitment.”
“I’m not disagreeing with anything you’re saying except for the idea that the border is secure. I mean if you have people crossing the border, it’s just by definition not secure,” Tapper said.
He added that some critics argue the porous border encourages migrants to put themselves at the mercy of smugglers who prey on them.
“It just seems like such a refusal to acknowledge reality, to say that the border is secure when we all know millions of people are crossing the border illegally every year,” Tapper said.
“Jake, and that is a consequence of a number of things,” Pressley said, mentioning “climate refugees,” as well as people fleeing violence and corruption.
“Okay, it sounds like in there, you acknowledge that there are millions of people crossing the border illegally, which would mean that the border is not secure,” Tapper said, adding “would you grant me the point that the border is not secure?”
“Jake, that is a conversation for another day,” Pressley responded.