Ban motorcycle club logos?

tblwdc

New Member
You know most of the people arrested in Waco had no criminal convictions, yes? I'm not arguing they are the little sisters of the poor. Just stating a fact. As for burka's, you can google a bit and find out parts of sharia that are not compatible with the US Constitution. The requirement, not the choice, the requirement, is but one.

No, I didn't know that most people arrested in Waco had no criminal convictions. I'm not certain what that has to do with joining an outlaw motorcycle club, and practicing religion. I have known several people who wear head dress for their religion, but would not consider it a law.

I have read this multiple times and have no idea what you are trying to say;

As for burka's, you can google a bit and find out parts of sharia that are not compatible with the US Constitution. The requirement, not the choice, the requirement, is but one.

Are burkas unconstitutional?

Maybe I should be more clear. Joining an outlaw motorcycle club makes you complicit with outlaws.

Wearing a burka makes you complicit with people who practice a particular religion.
 

tblwdc

New Member
Nah. It'll take you just a second if you want to spend the time.

I thought we were having an adult discussion. You made the statement. I'm not discounting it, just looking to verify as you would if I made such a statement. I thought you were more adult than others on here. I guess I was wrong.
 

tblwdc

New Member
Nah. It'll take you just a second if you want to spend the time.

I took the time. I googled criminal record for waco shooters. I googled arrest record for bikers arrested in waco. I googled list of people arrested in Waco. Of the people I found, they had criminal records.
 

Larry Gude

Strung Out
I thought we were having an adult discussion. You made the statement. I'm not discounting it, just looking to verify as you would if I made such a statement. I thought you were more adult than others on here. I guess I was wrong.

We are. It's just my work day is over and I'd rather go start drinking some beers. We can pick this back up tomorrow afternoon :buddies:
 

tblwdc

New Member
We are. It's just my work day is over and I'd rather go start drinking some beers. We can pick this back up tomorrow afternoon :buddies:

I can understand that. I did find this;

Records searched by The Associated Press show more than 115 of the 170 people arrested in the aftermath of a motorcycle gang shootout outside a Central Texas restaurant have not been convicted of a crime in Texas.

Waco police have said that all those arrested after the shooting belonged to criminal motorcycle gangs. Most of them were being held on $1 million bonds Thursday, charged with engaging in criminal enterprise. Nine people were killed in Sunday's shootout.

Although dozens of those arrested do have criminal records, 117 did not have any convictions listed under their names and birthdates in a database maintained by the Texas Department of Public Safety. The database also shows five of the people killed had convictions in Texas.

DPS acknowledges its data may contain some errors and omissions.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/latest-waco-shooting-crime-records-dead-biker-31213850
 

Larry Gude

Strung Out
I took the time. I googled criminal record for waco shooters. I googled arrest record for bikers arrested in waco. I googled list of people arrested in Waco. Of the people I found, they had criminal records.

Ok, so, US constitution, would you agree that it allows for freedom of religion, yes? And it certainly would recognize Islam, yes? Yet, at some point, subordination of women, acceptance of slavery, things that should be, were, ostensibly, be OK under our laws in our native faiths, (I say that not to be provocative but just to observe what is and was) we do limit practice of faith to some extent and do so under constitutional grounds and should presumably, do the same with Islam, yes?

Consider Texas. Had the two guys out for blood over the cartoons succeeded and lived, it would have been an interesting trial, agreed? Under sharia they would be acquitted I would think because of the insult to the faith. Further, if you spend some more time googling ( I don't suggest doing that as an insult or disdain for backing up my points. I suggest it in conversations based on the idea that research I've done for myself, or you for yours, that is pretty easy stuff to find is a better way of persuading for your point or mine. Then, truly disagreed upon points can be dealt with after a lot of the easy points have been learned by either party) you can find lots of straightforward arguments as to why sharia is unconstitutional, the most glaring being that our system says the law can be what we, the people, say it is even it it is unconstitutional if enough of us agree to amend the Constitution whereas Sharia, as understood, it seems, my Muslims, is the perfect literal word of god and the one and only truth and that man, let alone women, may not alter it.

So, for our conversation, lawlessness, I'm arguing that Islam is against our laws. That's not to say that, like Christianity and Judaism and Catholicism it can't be welcomed given subservience to the Constitution but that, I am pretty sure, is anathema to most Muslims and is why we have problems with them; they take their faith a lot more seriously than we do.
 
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