baptism

[hotmomma]

I don't know if anyone has the answer to my question but I"ll ask anyway. My family is catholic and believes in being baptised. Everyone in my family has been baptised. I believe in God but I do not go to church. I have a 9 year old that has been baptised but I was a single parent when I did this so the father didn't dispute. I am married and have a 7 month old now. My husband is not religious and doesn't see the point of a baptism. We finally comprimised and agreed that she can get baptised but he does not want it to be done if God Parents have to be chosen.

So my question is, Does there have to be God Parents in order to get baptised? I could call a church and ask but I don't want to

 

[PJumper]

I don't know if anyone has the answer to my question but I"ll ask anyway. My family is catholic and believes in being baptised. Everyone in my family has been baptised. I believe in God but I do not go to church. I have a 9 year old that has been baptised but I was a single parent when I did this so the father didn't dispute. I am married and have a 7 month old now. My husband is not religious and doesn't see the point of a baptism. We finally comprimised and agreed that she can get baptised but he does not want it to be done if God Parents have to be chosen.

So my question is, Does there have to be God Parents in order to get baptised? I could call a church and ask but I don't want to

You mentioned you're catholic so it's safe to say you want her baptise in a catholic church. Yes God Parents are required because they're suppose to help you in raising your child as a good catholic and stand in your place in your absence (theoritically). Some parish requires that parents and god parents are also catholic (baptized, confirmed, married in catholic church), some only requires that they are practicing catholics(goes to church regularly, baptised but may have civil marriage). Check several church in the area of the requirements just to make sure, because like I said, it varies.

 

[usagent]

I don't know if anyone has the answer to my question but I"ll ask anyway. My family is catholic and believes in being baptised. Everyone in my family has been baptised. I believe in God but I do not go to church. I have a 9 year old that has been baptised but I was a single parent when I did this so the father didn't dispute. I am married and have a 7 month old now. My husband is not religious and doesn't see the point of a baptism. We finally comprimised and agreed that she can get baptised but he does not want it to be done if God Parents have to be chosen.

So my question is, Does there have to be God Parents in order to get baptised? I could call a church and ask but I don't want to

I'm curious and I know the can of worms I'm about to open, but....what, in your opinion, is the reason to baptise your infant? You belive in God. But have you accepted his son?

 

[hotmomma]

I'm curious and I know the can of worms I'm about to open, but....what, in your opinion, is the reason to baptise your infant? You belive in God. But have you accepted his son?

Yes. I know this is a dumb answer but, I want to baptise my daughter because that is what is normal in our family. Family members bring it to my attention and I in someway feel guilty that it hasn't been done yet. Like I said, I am not religious. My thoughts are up in the air when it comes to baptism. On one hand I think, "why baptise an infant that has committed no sins", but on the other "my family believes that a person that has not been baptised can not be accepted into heaven so is that gonna happen?". Other families I know that are catholic have their infants baptised. How do other people feel about this?

 

[2ndAmendment]

Yes. I know this is a dumb answer but, I want to baptise my daughter because that is what is normal in our family. Family members bring it to my attention and I in someway feel guilty that it hasn't been done yet. Like I said, I am not religious. My thoughts are up in the air when it comes to baptism. On one hand I think, "why baptise an infant that has committed no sins", but on the other "my family believes that a person that has not been baptised can not be accepted into heaven so is that gonna happen?". Other families I know that are catholic have their infants baptised. How do other people feel about this?

Wrong reason for baptism. Baptism is an outward sign of inner faith. Many Christian faiths do not believe in infant baptism because it must be a choice by the person being baptized.

I'll let the Catholics advise you beyond this because, as I have been told( OK Radiant?) they believe you must be baptized because of original sin (Another point of disagreement).

 

[hotmomma]

You mentioned you're catholic so it's safe to say you want her baptise in a catholic church. Yes God Parents are required because they're suppose to help you in raising your child as a good catholic and stand in your place in your absence (theoritically). Some parish requires that parents and god parents are also catholic (baptized, confirmed, married in catholic church), some only requires that they are practicing catholics(goes to church regularly, baptised but may have civil marriage). Check several church in the area of the requirements just to make sure, because like I said, it varies.

My daughter was baptised when she was 6. She attended Sunday school and after a couple weeks the priest baptised her. My brother and his wife are the God Parents and I am happy with that choice.

 

[usagent]

Yes. I know this is a dumb answer but, I want to baptise my daughter because that is what is normal in our family. Family members bring it to my attention and I in someway feel guilty that it hasn't been done yet. Like I said, I am not religious. My thoughts are up in the air when it comes to baptism. On one hand I think, "why baptise an infant that has committed no sins", but on the other "my family believes that a person that has not been baptised can not be accepted into heaven so is that gonna happen?". Other families I know that are catholic have their infants baptised. How do other people feel about this?

It's not a dumb answer. It was an honest one. The sin question has to do with "the original sin" Adam and Eve. We are all sinners. Jesus taught salvation then baptism. Only adults are Baptised in the Bible (the one I've read) then again the thief beside Jesus on the cross was unbaptised and accepted Jesus before he died and Christ said "today you shall be with me in paridise" Christians believe there is an age of accountability for people "when you are old enough to accept or reject Jesus" That is when you make the decision and then desire Jesus covenant for Baptism. God does not sent babies to hell only unrepentant deniers of his son.

 

[aosmiles]

The purpose of baptism is bury the "old man" within us-that old man is that of sin. It does not matter if you are a child or an adult. What matters is whether you have accepted Christ as your Saviour-believing you are a sinner, that He died and rose again for your sins and that He is alive and sitting at the right hand of God. I was baptized at age 11. I chose to do this and that was almost 20 years ago. All are born sinners-kids, too-it is our nature. No, I don't believe those who have not reached the age of accountability are condemned. What I do believe is what the Bible teaches, which is that all have fallen short of the Glory of God. Little ones can't commit sin, but it does not mean that the sin is not there.

If you have your child baptized, realize it is ritualistic. It does not "save" her from anything-it is a rite of passage for Catholics. She has to be the one to choose salvation and baptism. My children were dedicated to God in a ceremony at our church. We do not baptize infants. We selected godparents for them-a term synonymous with guardians in case anything should happen to us. If you have her baptized, no, it won't hurt her but realize that her time of accountability will arise one day.

 

[usagent]

The purpose of baptism is bury the "old man" within us-that old man is that of sin. It does not matter if you are a child or an adult. What matters is whether you have accepted Christ as your Saviour-believing you are a sinner, that He died and rose again for your sins and that He is alive and sitting at the right hand of God. I was baptized at age 11. I chose to do this and that was almost 20 years ago. All are born sinners-kids, too-it is our nature. No, I don't believe those who have not reached the age of accountability are condemned. What I do believe is what the Bible teaches, which is that all have fallen short of the Glory of God. Little ones can't commit sin, but it does not mean that the sin is not there.

If you have your child baptized, realize it is ritualistic. It does not "save" her from anything-it is a rite of passage for Catholics. She has to be the one to choose salvation and baptism. My children were dedicated to God in a ceremony at our church. We do not baptize infants. We selected godparents for them-a term synonymous with guardians in case anything should happen to us. If you have her baptized, no, it won't hurt her but realize that her time of accountability will arise one day.

I like people who know Bible

 

[hotmomma]

thanks for all the information

 

[usagent]

God does not sent babies to hell only unrepentant deniers of his son.

After re-reading this "my Bad" God does'nt send anyone to hell we chose to go.

 

[sockgirl77]

Why not wait until the child is old enough to understand religion and choose what he/she wants to be?

 

[Radiant1]

Yes. I know this is a dumb answer but, I want to baptise my daughter because that is what is normal in our family. Family members bring it to my attention and I in someway feel guilty that it hasn't been done yet. Like I said, I am not religious. My thoughts are up in the air when it comes to baptism. On one hand I think, "why baptise an infant that has committed no sins", but on the other "my family believes that a person that has not been baptised can not be accepted into heaven so is that gonna happen?". Other families I know that are catholic have their infants baptised. How do other people feel about this?

Original sin doesn't mean that your baby has committed an actual sin. Catholic baptism is more than just an empty ritual; one is baptized into the death and resurrection of Christ and is therefore imparted with sanctifying grace. Baptism doesn't guarantee us a place in Heaven but without it one's salvation is much more precarious.

Don't let your family guilt you into it, but instead listen to your heart.

 

[usagent]

Baptism doesn't guarantee us a place in Heaven but without it one's salvation is much more precarious.

I've never heard of precarious salvation. Please explain. thanks in advance,

 

[Radiant1]

I've never heard of precarious salvation. Please explain. thanks in advance,

precarious

 

[sockgirl77]

My future MIL actually had the nerve to tell me that God would not recognize our children until they were christianed.

 

[usagent]

I was hoping for an explaination because I new the definition. I wanted to allow you an oppurtunity so I did not assume anything. The way the definition you gave me is written.
Salvation is:
1. dependent on circumstances beyond one's control; uncertain; unstable; insecure: a precarious livelihood.
2. dependent on the will or pleasure of another; liable to be withdrawn or lost at the will of another: He held a precarious tenure under an arbitrary administration.
3. exposed to or involving danger; dangerous; perilous; risky: the precarious life of an underseas diver.
4. having insufficient, little, or no foundation: a precarious assumption.

wich of course is not true....

Assurance - Verses that comfort Christians with their assured salvation.
Acts 16:31 (New International Version)

31They replied, "Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved—you and your household."


1 John 3:14 We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren. He that loveth not his brother abideth in death.

1 John 5:12 He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.

1 John 5:13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.

2 Corinthians 4:16 For which cause we faint not; but though our outward man perish, yet the inward man is renewed day by day

2 Peter 2 King James Bible
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1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.

 

[hotmomma]

Why not wait until the child is old enough to understand religion and choose what he/she wants to be?

because Im confused about it all. i was taught that every baby must be baptised. no one really knows what happens when we die but my family members believe that if you have not been baptised you will not be accepted into heaven (at any age). i feel like i would just do it for peace of mind. would i feel guilty if something bad were to happen (god forbid) and my daughter didnt get to spend eternity in heaven? my husband is being stubborn and will not allow god parents so i dont even know if baptism is an option

 

[sockgirl77]

because Im confused about it all. i was taught that every baby must be baptised. no one really knows what happens when we die but my family members believe that if you have not been baptised you will not be accepted into heaven (at any age). i feel like i would just do it for peace of mind. would i feel guilty if something bad were to happen (god forbid) and my daughter didnt get to spend eternity in heaven? my husband is being stubborn and will not allow god parents so i dont even know if baptism is an option

You and your hubby are the parents. Do not allow your family to guilt you into something that you may not think is right for YOUR child.

 

[hotmomma]

You and your hubby are the parents. Do not allow your family to guilt you into something that you may not think is right for YOUR child.

Thats just it though. I don't know what is the right answer. decisions, decisions