Before Grandma Hugs you

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INGSOC
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Now There Are Calls for Consent Before Kids Receive Hugs and Kisses from Grandma



Kids own their bodies, and must give consent before hugs and kisses from Grandma. That's an argument from Scary Mommy:

Teaching children about consent is crucial, so why do some parents still insist their kids hug and kiss relatives even if they don’t want to? As consent and bodily autonomy become a bigger conversation, there are those speaking out about how we need to give children agency over their own bodies — even if it means turning down hugs from grandma and grandpa.
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Author Valerie Williams expounds:

...how many of us grew up with our parents insisting we accept hugs and kisses from grandmas, grandpas, aunts and uncles with zero regard for our feelings on the subject? I remember being anxious at big family events as a kid knowing how many of our distant relatives would expect to touch me. I recall being nervous of how they smelled or how their beard stubble felt — and the persistent feeling that I simply didn’t want to be touched.

That’s why it’s so crucial that we recognize the validity of those instincts in even the youngest kids. They may not be able to articulate the reason for their discomfort with physical affection, but we need to honor it in order to make good on our lessons of consent. How can we tell our kids that their bodies are their own and then remove that very agency because Aunt Betty wants to give them a kiss? The lesson needs to be that it’s up to them every time — no exceptions.

Except it's not up to them. From where does this notion of a child's consent arise? A child's entire life proceeds without his consent, and often in direct contradiction to his expressed will. That's a defining aspect of childhood. Aside from physical characteristics, the ability to live by consent is the very thing which distinguishes adults from children. The whole point of parenting is to substitute the guardian's judgment for the child's, to override consent on a regular basis.
 

vraiblonde

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I actually agree with this. I don't think kids should have to show affection toward any relative against their will. Even my own kids, when I'd say come over here and give me a moosh, if they said no because they were mad at me or whatever, that was that. Crazy Valerie Williams puts it in weird terms and could clearly use some couch time, but this is not a new concept. Most adults understand when little kids don't want to come give them a hug and kiss, and they don't press it.
 

luvmygdaughters

Well-Known Member
Sorry, but when I see my granddaughters, I expect a hug and kiss. When my kids were little, it was the same way, they were expected to give their grandparents hugs and kisses. When I was a kid...way long ago, I gave my grandparents hugs and kisses. Not just grandparents, aunts and uncles too. When the child starts dictating to you how things are...you're going to have problems and a lot of headaches. I can see this if they are older, 15 or 16, but under the age of 12...no way. You do as I say, end of story!
 

vraiblonde

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Sorry, but when I see my granddaughters, I expect a hug and kiss. When my kids were little, it was the same way, they were expected to give their grandparents hugs and kisses. When I was a kid...way long ago, I gave my grandparents hugs and kisses. Not just grandparents, aunts and uncles too. When the child starts dictating to you how things are...you're going to have problems and a lot of headaches. I can see this if they are older, 15 or 16, but under the age of 12...no way. You do as I say, end of story!

I only hugged the relatives I liked and was genuinely glad to see - which was most of them. But my great-aunt was married to this creepy guy when I was a little kid and he'd go, "Come give Uncle Ray a kiss," and I'd be, "No." Ick.
 

libertytyranny

Dream Stealer
I think there has to be a line. Some people are fond of making their kid go hug and kiss every 4th cousin twice removed etc. I tell my kid to say goodbye to her grandparents and she often hugs and kisses them of her own accord, if shes being a butt I may say something like, give them a hug lets get going. But I think forcing a child to hug someone because they are mildly related is wrong...especially if it is someone they just met! I see no issues with her saying a polite goodbye to someone who is not a close relative she loves and regularly interacts with.
 

vraiblonde

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No, because they learn early they can say no to the least little thing and adults will enable them.

I don't think that hugging and kissing people is a "least little thing". My grandson was always, "Yay, Dodie!!" but my 2 year old granddaughter is more aloof. She can give me hugs and smoochies when she feels like it, and that's okay.
 

happyazz

Skiing in the clouds
sorry, but when i see my granddaughters, i expect a hug and kiss. When my kids were little, it was the same way, they were expected to give their grandparents hugs and kisses. When i was a kid...way long ago, i gave my grandparents hugs and kisses. Not just grandparents, aunts and uncles too. "when the child starts dictating to you how things are...you're going to have problems and a lot of headaches." i can see this if they are older, 15 or 16, but under the age of 12...no way. You do as i say, end of story!

yes, yes, yes
 
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