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Merlin99

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So I keep hearing that it costs more to execute a person that to lock them up for life. I’m not the math working her, it seems to me that if it takes 10 years to go through all the appeals and such and then kaput or it takes 25 years for someone to die of old age you’ve saved 15 years of room and board. What am I missing here?
 

Merlin99

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Honestly I think life imprisonment is crueler than execution. I mean, which would you rather have? Dembots always whine about capital punishment, but they're okay with caging people like animals for life and making us pay for it.
You’ve got to remember the clientele here and what their life is like. You live in overcrowded conditions abusing others or being abused by others, hanging with the homies. Minus the fat chicks it’s almost home.
 

glhs837

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So I keep hearing that it costs more to execute a person that to lock them up for life. I’m not the math working her, it seems to me that if it takes 10 years to go through all the appeals and such and then kaput or it takes 25 years for someone to die of old age you’ve saved 15 years of room and board. What am I missing here?

Well, it does, given the crazy amount of required appeals. That's what costs, and I'm not sure the 'cost to lock up for life' includes that l;egal cost, since they happen anyway. Now, in cases where there is any possible doubt, sure, take that time. Spend that money. Cases where its open and shut, fast track the crap out of that. The one go to for me is the two guys in CT. Home invasion.

1. Knock Dad out with a baseball bat, tie him up in the basement.
2. Take Mom to the bank for money.
3. Come back, rape and strangle Mom to death.
4. Rape 11 year old daughter.
5. Tie 17 year old and 11 year old to beds, douse everything with gas an ignite it.

Both girls die. Moms dead. Dad survives. Cops cath both animals red handed. Not one shred of doubt they did it. Those two should have been dead in less than a year.
 

Ken King

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So I keep hearing that it costs more to execute a person that to lock them up for life. I’m not the math working her, it seems to me that if it takes 10 years to go through all the appeals and such and then kaput or it takes 25 years for someone to die of old age you’ve saved 15 years of room and board. What am I missing here?
The added costs of the legal expenses for the appeals that are mandated. Taxpayers pick up the full tab.
 

limblips

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So I keep hearing that it costs more to execute a person that to lock them up for life. I’m not the math working her, it seems to me that if it takes 10 years to go through all the appeals and such and then kaput or it takes 25 years for someone to die of old age you’ve saved 15 years of room and board. What am I missing here?
You are missing the huge legal fees that lawyers get for running all the appeals. Somebody has to make money on it!
 
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BOP

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They need to get on getting Luigi Mangione tried and sentenced to so Brandon can pardon him, too.

Did I mention there are federal charges pending?
 

Hijinx

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Convict them , sentence them to be executed.
In 6 months they get a new trial. New Lawyers, a new Attorney General, a new judge, A new Jury.
Convict them a 2nd. time they get 2 in the back of the head next day.

Wasting time is cruel and unusual punishment.
Life imprisonment means some fool like Biden might pardon them or let them out to prey on more people.
Life imprisonment places guards at risk.
 
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Merlin99

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The added costs of the legal expenses for the appeals that are mandated. Taxpayers pick up the full tab.
Who are they getting for lawyers? It should be the best that they can pay for. Also how many appeals are mandated anything over one seems excessive.
 

BOP

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Convict them , sentence them to be executed.
In 6 months they get a new trial. New Lawyers, a new Attorney General, a new judge, A new Jury.
Convict them a 2nd. time they get 2 in the back of the head next day.

Wasting time is cruel and unusual punishment.
Life imprisonment means some fool like Biden might pardon them or let them out to prey on more people.
Life imprisonment places guards at risk.
The prison system in America is a multi-billion dollar enterprise.

 

Ken King

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Who are they getting for lawyers? It should be the best that they can pay for. Also how many appeals are mandated anything over one seems excessive.
For states with the death penalty there is "a direct appeal to the state court, followed by post-conviction proceedings in state court, and then further appeals at the federal level; the lawyers representing them usually come from specialized public defender offices within the state or federal system". For Federal cases its a little different, though equally complicated, as an appeal can go to the regional court of appeal, then it can go to an en banc review and possibly all the way to SCOTUS.

Now do I agree with all this, not necessarily, but its what we have got. As to it being excessive I would say that is subjective as the process is to ensure that the result doesn't end with an innocent person having their life taken by the state/Fed.
 
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