black market lightbulbs.... I thought this was reversed....

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member

Do CFCs Really Cause Ozone Depletion?





But from the Canadian Parliamentary Committee meeting in 1990 about ozone depletion by CFCs, several large omissions should have been obvious to the reader:

1) The first comprehensive worldwide measurements started in 1978, with the Nimbus-7 satellite. Ozone measurements weren’t made during all the eons of prior earth history.

2) The ozone layer is likely self-correcting. With less O3, more UV rays can penetrate deeper into the atmosphere, encountering a higher O2 concentration, where it forms more O3. This is a likely reason for little, if any, additional UV radiation getting to the earth’s surface.

3) Noticed ozone thinning occurred throughout the 1980s, but apparently slowed in the early 1990s. This was too soon to credit implementation of the Montreal Protocol. A 1998 World Meteorological Organization (WMO) report said, “since 1991, the linear (downward) trend observed during the 1980s has not continued, but rather total column ozone has been almost constant.” [The Sentinel – The Ozone Layer: The hole truth.]

4) More importantly, the dreaded increase in ground level UVb failed to materialize. The much-hyped acceleration in skin cancer rates never came to be. National Cancer Institute statistics show malignant melanoma incidence and mortality, which had been undergoing a long-term increase predating alleged ozone depletion, had actually been leveling off during the ozone crisis.

5) Faced with assumed UVb increases in the 1990’s, the Canadian Parliamentary Committee’s intent was to control the problem of ozone depletion. Major participants met in groups: 1) Friends of Earth (5 members), DuPont (5 members) [major CFC producer], and 3 climate scientists. The proceedings are described in Ozone And Carbon Dioxide (PDF).

6) In the meeting, DuPont said very little. They were already phasing out CFCs, and had a replacement product (HFC-134A) in preparation.

7) A few other assumptions made: a) from the start, it was assumed that UV light was a constant (not true with sunspot cycles); b) Roland and Molina demonstrated CFCs could destroy ozone in very artificial laboratory conditions, c) there was little evidence of losses of stratospheric ozone other than Antarctica, and ozone levels were found higher than pre-protocol levels in 1989; d) Protocol participants intensely focused on CFCs almost to exclusion of other possible explanations; e) bureaucracies were established, laws passed, and punishments determined for anyone caught using CFCs; f) and CFC atmospheric lifetimes seemed forgotten.

8) Cosmic Rays (CRs) from space, and those emanating during sunspot activity, seemed possible destroyers of ozone by certain scientists. Dr. Qing-Bin Lu’s latest proof of the CR theory for the ozone depletion was in Physical Review Letters on 3/19/9 [a PDF of the paper]. Dr. Lu, a physics and astronomy professor at the University of Waterloo (Ontario, Canada), said the fallacy was accepted for more than twenty years that Earth’s ozone layer is depleted by chlorine atoms produced by CFCs.
 

StmarysCity79

Well-Known Member

Do CFCs Really Cause Ozone Depletion?





But from the Canadian Parliamentary Committee meeting in 1990 about ozone depletion by CFCs, several large omissions should have been obvious to the reader:

1) The first comprehensive worldwide measurements started in 1978, with the Nimbus-7 satellite. Ozone measurements weren’t made during all the eons of prior earth history.

2) The ozone layer is likely self-correcting. With less O3, more UV rays can penetrate deeper into the atmosphere, encountering a higher O2 concentration, where it forms more O3. This is a likely reason for little, if any, additional UV radiation getting to the earth’s surface.

3) Noticed ozone thinning occurred throughout the 1980s, but apparently slowed in the early 1990s. This was too soon to credit implementation of the Montreal Protocol. A 1998 World Meteorological Organization (WMO) report said, “since 1991, the linear (downward) trend observed during the 1980s has not continued, but rather total column ozone has been almost constant.” [The Sentinel – The Ozone Layer: The hole truth.]

4) More importantly, the dreaded increase in ground level UVb failed to materialize. The much-hyped acceleration in skin cancer rates never came to be. National Cancer Institute statistics show malignant melanoma incidence and mortality, which had been undergoing a long-term increase predating alleged ozone depletion, had actually been leveling off during the ozone crisis.

5) Faced with assumed UVb increases in the 1990’s, the Canadian Parliamentary Committee’s intent was to control the problem of ozone depletion. Major participants met in groups: 1) Friends of Earth (5 members), DuPont (5 members) [major CFC producer], and 3 climate scientists. The proceedings are described in Ozone And Carbon Dioxide (PDF).

6) In the meeting, DuPont said very little. They were already phasing out CFCs, and had a replacement product (HFC-134A) in preparation.

7) A few other assumptions made: a) from the start, it was assumed that UV light was a constant (not true with sunspot cycles); b) Roland and Molina demonstrated CFCs could destroy ozone in very artificial laboratory conditions, c) there was little evidence of losses of stratospheric ozone other than Antarctica, and ozone levels were found higher than pre-protocol levels in 1989; d) Protocol participants intensely focused on CFCs almost to exclusion of other possible explanations; e) bureaucracies were established, laws passed, and punishments determined for anyone caught using CFCs; f) and CFC atmospheric lifetimes seemed forgotten.

8) Cosmic Rays (CRs) from space, and those emanating during sunspot activity, seemed possible destroyers of ozone by certain scientists. Dr. Qing-Bin Lu’s latest proof of the CR theory for the ozone depletion was in Physical Review Letters on 3/19/9 [a PDF of the paper]. Dr. Lu, a physics and astronomy professor at the University of Waterloo (Ontario, Canada), said the fallacy was accepted for more than twenty years that Earth’s ozone layer is depleted by chlorine atoms produced by CFCs.


Again why do you think that is an actual reputable source and you proudly post because you are too dumb to know you are being lied to.

And why you link to a "source" from 2011.

Seriously what is not wrong with you would be a better question.
 

Bare-ya-cuda

Well-Known Member
Again why do you think that is an actual reputable source and you proudly post because you are too dumb to know you are being lied to.

And why you link to a "source" from 2011.

Seriously what is not wrong with you would be a better question.
Your reply above can easily be applied to 98% of your post on here.
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
Again why do you think that is an actual reputable source and you proudly post because you are too dumb to know you are being lied to.


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Once again you ATTACK the post or the source ..... you should be able to easily refute the facts presented line by line
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
The Biden administration will begin enforcing a nationwide ban on various types of popular light bulbs Tuesday as part of its aggressive energy efficiency agenda.

Under the Department of Energy's (DOE) regulations, manufacturers and retailers will be prohibited from selling incandescent and similar halogen light bulbs which represent a sizable share of current light bulb supplies. Instead, manufacturers and retailers must sell light-emitting diode, or LED, alternatives or risk substantial federal penalties.

"It’s impossible for Democrats to leave us alone. States must fight back," Rep. Bob Good, R-Va., tweeted ahead of the ban enforcement.

"President Biden continues to push liberal fantasies through his weaponized federal agencies," Rep. Andy Barr, R-Ky., added. "The Department of Energy should be focused on American energy independence, not on what lightbulbs you can or can’t purchase for your home or business."



 
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