Blackwater defends embrace of Islamic law

[Nonno]

WTF? This company will do anything to avoid supporting the troops.
Facing South: Blackwater defends embrace of Islamic law

 

[Lenny]

WTF? This company will do anything to avoid supporting the troops.
Facing South: Blackwater defends embrace of Islamic law

I read the whole posted transcript. Now,you want to explain why you think there's a problem?

 

[Nonno]

I read the whole posted transcript. Now,you want to explain why you think there's a problem?

newsobserver.com | Use of Islamic law urged in suit
"RALEIGH - To defend itself against a lawsuit by the widows of three American soldiers who died on one of its planes in Afghanistan, a sister company of the private military firm Blackwater has asked a federal court to decide the case using Islamic law, known as Shari'a.The lawsuit "is governed by the law of Afghanistan," Presidential Airways argued in a Florida federal court. "Afghan law is largely religion-based and evidences a strong concern for ensuring moral responsibility, and deterring violations of obligations within its borders."
If the judge agrees, it would essentially end the lawsuit over a botched flight supporting the U.S. military. Shari'a law does not hold a company responsible for the actions of employees performed within the course of their work."


There is no "problem", it just shows to what extent this sleazy company will go in order to not be held responsible for the deaths of those soldiers. Holding that Shari'a law applies to this lawsuit is BS.

 

[vraiblonde]

Okay, well those stupid greedy women shouldn't be able to sue anyway. They remind me of those 9-11 widows - ghoulish broads trying to cash in on their husband's death. It's disgusting and you'd think they'd be embarrassed.

 

[RadioPatrol]

This kinda says it all;

EP: Here's, but here's the glitch. That contract was flown in Afghanistan supporting, under operation and control of the U.S. military. Um, and uh, you know, the trial lawyers try to characterize it as a, uh, air taxi, air charter for hire. It's impossible to fly an FAA Part 135 mission there, because there's no nav[igation] aids, there's no flight service station, there's no published approach procedures, there's no radar control. There's none of those things, none of those elements that you would expect to have in a FAA-sanctioned organization. That was a battlefield support mission, flown on a battlefield, in a foreign country.

Like what does this have to do with the case:

The company's chief counsel is Joseph Schmitz, who served as Defense Department Inspector General from 2002 until he left to join Blackwater in 2005. He's the son of John Schmitz, a former member of the U.S. House of Representatives from California who was expelled from the far-right John Birch Society for "extremism," and the brother of Mary Kay Letourneau, a former schoolteacher who served several years in prison for statutory rape involving a teenage student to whom she's now married.

Joseph Schmitz is also a member of the Knights of Malta -- a Catholic military order that was involved in fighting Islamic rule of the Holy Land during the Crusades.

Too Extreme for the JBS ....

 

[vraiblonde]

Too Extreme for the JBS ....

I was going to hijack but I'll make a new thread instead.

 

[vegmom]

Why would the widows not sue? I would if my spouse died under the circumstances that are alleged. They are probably looking for someone to blame. Was it neglect or bad luck? Let the evidence speak.

They will have to show gross negligence on Blackwater's part to be awarded damages. If they can't they won't collect a cent.

Give them their day in court.

 

[Ken King]

Why would the widows not sue? I would if my spouse died under the circumstances that are alleged. They are probably looking for someone to blame. Was it neglect or bad luck? Let the evidence speak.

They will have to show gross negligence on Blackwater's part to be awarded damages. If they can't they won't collect a cent.

Give them their day in court.

Under Shari'a or within our judicial system?

Looks like Blackwater is just trying to save its butt.

 

[vraiblonde]

Looks like Blackwater is just trying to save its butt.

Well sure. The Commies HATE Blackwater because they're a private military corporation. They're effective and make a profit, so they are hated. I don't blame them for doing whatever they can to fight this ridiculous greedy lawsuit.

 

[Larry Gude]

contractors...

...that carry weapons should not exist in our force structure. This issue is the inevitable result of yet another poor Bush admin strategic view; hide the truth, the cost and the problems from the American people.

 

[vraiblonde]

...that carry weapons should not exist in our force structure. This issue is the inevitable result of yet another poor Bush admin strategic view; hide the truth, the cost and the problems from the American people.

Why do you say that?

I'm a big fan of Blackwater, and mercenaries in general. They don't have to play by the bull#### rules that bind our military men and women, and their bosses aren't trying to get re-elected. I think hiring Blackwater is one of Bush's smarter moves.

 

[Ken King]

Well sure. The Commies HATE Blackwater because they're a private military corporation. They're effective and make a profit, so they are hated. I don't blame them for doing whatever they can to fight this ridiculous greedy lawsuit.

Don't know anything about the money being asked for but the circumstances surrounding the crash have been investigated and Blackwater received a good deal of blame from both the NTSB and Congressional Oversight Committee.

The part I find perplexing with the whole deal (and probably supports your greedy contention) is that the family of the one crash survivor that could have been rescued if procedures had been followed (he died an estimated 12 hours after the crash from exposure and his injuries) doesn't seem to be part of the suit. I guess maybe he had no family.

 

[Kerad]

WTF? This company will do anything to avoid supporting the troops.
Facing South: Blackwater defends embrace of Islamic law

Blackwater supplements our troops. Wanna know why there is no draft???

Thank Blackwater. Thank the other contractors.

You want to to support the troops and support veterans? Then Blackwater (and others) are your Heroes.

Don't like it...sign up and go fight!


Don't blame patriotic civilians for volunteering to go and fight our government's misguided battles.

 

[vraiblonde]

Blackwater received a good deal of blame from both the NTSB and Congressional Oversight Committee.

I don't really put a whole lot of stock in those people. They're part of the bureaucratic nightmare that our government has become and why nothing gets done.

It's hip to hate Blackwater these days, but I'm out of that mode where I just hate a group because Chris Matthews tells me to. See my John Birch Society thread.

 

[vraiblonde]

Blackwater supplements our troops. Wanna know why there is no draft???

Thank Blackwater. Thank the other contractors.

You want to to support the troops and support veterans? Then Blackwater (and others) are your Heroes.

Don't like it...sign up and go fight!


Don't blame patriotic civilians for volunteering to go and fight our government's misguided battles.

Are you being sarcastic? Because I wouldn't have thought you'd take this side.

 

[Kerad]

Are you being sarcastic? Because I wouldn't have thought you'd take this side.

No...I am not being sarcastic in the least.

(though I understand your confusion...) I have taken this position before, and will do so...forever.


Some will paint "military contractors" as a problem. If not for these combat tested veterans volunteering to fight for our country, where would we be???

Yes, they get paid well...but that is because they are truly volunteers. 99% of them are our military veterans, and are risking their lives to fight for our foreign policy.

They bridge the gap between combat tested vetereans and the scrubs the military is forced to take in to meet "recuitment goals".

 

[AK-74me]

No...I am not being sarcastic in the least.

(though I understand your confusion...) I have taken this position before, and will do so...forever.


Some will paint "military contractors" as a problem. If not for these combat tested veterans volunteering to fight for our country, where would we be???

Yes, they get paid well...but that is because they are truly volunteers. 99% of them are our military veterans, and are risking their lives to fight for our foreign policy.

They bridge the gap between combat tested vetereans and the scrubs the military is forced to take in to meet "recuitment goals".

Holy F, I agree with that.

And OP, I don't know how anyone can say that Blackwater is against the troops. As was pointed out 99% of them are former military and alot of them are former hard chargers and or SF.

 

[Kerad]

Holy F, I agree with that.

And OP, I don't know how anyone can say that Blackwater is against the troops. As was pointed out 99% of them are former military and alot of them are former hard chargers and or SF.

We agree.


Though, I guess I should admit that I am one of these military contractors that I am defending.

But still...why would anyone argue against volunteers that support the country just as hard as they did when they wore the uniform not so long ago?

 

[RadioPatrol]

Why do you say that?

I'm a big fan of Blackwater, and mercenaries in general. They don't have to play by the bull#### rules that bind our military men and women, and their bosses aren't trying to get re-elected. I think hiring Blackwater is one of Bush's smarter moves.

They Need to ban the ID10t's from having camera's though ....

no picture, no evidence of wrong doing .......

 

[Baja28]

Why would the widows not sue? I would if my spouse died under the circumstances that are alleged. They are probably looking for someone to blame. Was it neglect or bad luck? Let the evidence speak.

They will have to show gross negligence on Blackwater's part to be awarded damages. If they can't they won't collect a cent.

Give them their day in court.

And if they lose, they pay all court costs and reimburse Blackwater!!

Blackwater supplements our troops. Wanna know why there is no draft???

Thank Blackwater. Thank the other contractors.

You want to to support the troops and support veterans? Then Blackwater (and others) are your Heroes.

Don't like it...sign up and go fight!


Don't blame patriotic civilians for volunteering to go and fight our government's misguided battles.

Holy crap!! Who are you??

Holy F, I agree with that.

And OP, I don't know how anyone can say that Blackwater is against the troops. As was pointed out 99% of them are former military and alot of them are former hard chargers and or SF.