Bloom Box
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GWguy
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Low cost, due to low cost parts, nothing exotic used to build it, no platinum, no rare earths or metals, just common metal and components. Power to size ratio is apparently the big selling point, along with the ability to use many different forms of common fuels.
So, if your lights start to flicker, should you run to the bathroom and take a $hit?
GWguy
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This makes me highly sceptical:
I can see that. Use solar to create a charge to separate H2O in to hydrogen and oxygen.
Only if you have the exhaust fan connected to the Bloom Box intake. Also, eat lots of beans - adds to the fuel.
ylexot
Super Genius
Yeah, but that's the same as all the other fuel cells. :shrug:
Oh, and it would be stupid to do for home use. Use solar to make electricity to make hydrogen to make electricity....ummm
GWguy
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Yeah, but that's the same as all the other fuel cells. :shrug:
Oh, and it would be stupid to do for home use. Use solar to make electricity to make hydrogen to make electricity....ummm
Perpetual motion......get the reaction started with solar, then the fuel burns in the cell to produce electricity which creates O2 and H which is burned by the cell to produce electricity which makes O2 and H which.......
I don't see any issues here, do you? :shrug:
ylexot
Super Genius
Reminds me of the South Park episode with the IT vehicle.
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Baja28
Obama destroyed America
Here's the full story. It's only 13 minutes. The Bloom Box: An Energy Breakthrough? - 60 Minutes - CBS News
Larry Gude
Strung Out
Baja28
Obama destroyed America
Show your math.
Larry Gude
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GWguy
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As with any new venture or technology, the cost will be high until it is mass produced. Only then can you start to talk about price comparisons. Way to early yet, even with his estimate of $3K for the base system.
Well, first you start the columns like so.....godddamittt!!!!!
You need to switch to dry markers......
Larry Gude
Strung Out
As with any new venture or technology, the cost will be high until it is mass produced. Only then can you start to talk about price comparisons. Way to early yet, even with his estimate of $3K for the base system.
You need to switch to dry markers......
Look, no one started using candles because it was new and more expensive. No one started using whale oil because it was new and more expensive. No one started using kerosene because it was new and more expensive.
Only now are we proposing to use something because it is new and more expensive. Only in the last generation have we taken something new and LESS expensive, nuke, and MADE it more expensive. Only in the last generation have we MADE oil more expensive.
The www didn't take off because it was new and MORE expensive. It took off when it became economically sensible to do so. That is PERFECT example of government role; infrastructure. Highways, railways, the 'net, space program, military, bridges, etc. The government does NOT do well making cars, trains, guns, or TANG.
When we do things that fly in the face of simple economics, we can't much expect to get off the ground, so to speak. All we need do is look at ethanol, a very new and expensive and stupid idea.
GWguy
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You're right. It was done because it was better, cost aside. Better than a fireplace to heat. Better than being in darkness. That's what's happening now, it has the makings of a better system. Uses 1/2 less fuel, which can be by-product waste. It generates no waste products. No nuclear fuel needed. No massive cooling systems changing the ecology of the waterways.
Do you heat the greenhouses with firewood? It's cheaper. No, you heat with fuel oil because it works better, is more convenient, you don't have to be up all night stoking a fire, and you are willing to pay a little more more for that because it's a better way of doing business.
Baja28
Obama destroyed America
More posts like this, less posts about Bush.Look, no one started using candles because it was new and more expensive. No one started using whale oil because it was new and more expensive. No one started using kerosene because it was new and more expensive.
Only now are we proposing to use something because it is new and more expensive. Only in the last generation have we taken something new and LESS expensive, nuke, and MADE it more expensive. Only in the last generation have we MADE oil more expensive.
The www didn't take off because it was new and MORE expensive. It took off when it became economically sensible to do so. That is PERFECT example of government role; infrastructure. Highways, railways, the 'net, space program, military, bridges, etc. The government does NOT do well making cars, trains, guns, or TANG.
When we do things that fly in the face of simple economics, we can't much expect to get off the ground, so to speak. All we need do is look at ethanol, a very new and expensive and stupid idea.
Larry Gude
Strung Out
I can promise you oil is cheaper, for us, than using wood to heat. If wood was cheaper, I'd use it. There are guys with pelletizing set ups and wood chip burners because they have the resources, ie, ready and steady supply of wood and wood by products.
What I am saying is when you government subsidize someones whiz-bang, they are, by definition, not building it to market. If they went and attracted capital, sure, just not public money.
Larry Gude
Strung Out
More posts like this, less posts about Bush.
Who?
GWguy
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Ok.
I still think it's a technology worth pursuing. Time to sit back and see what happens next.