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vraiblonde

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I would argue that significant number of teachers are exercising their power by leaving the profession, thus the increasing teacher shortage happening across the country.

See, and that is tragic for our future generations. But I don't blame them. Parents need to step up and in the most at-risk districts parents are nowhere to be found. So what are the teachers supposed to do?
 

OccamsRazor

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Well, for one thing they vote for their leadership and union representative. They vote in local elections for BoE members. They have direct access to the Principal, who has direct access to those above him/her.

You're right that bucking the Socialists and far Left *could be* professional suicide because it's typically only one teacher with courage enough to confront bad policy. The rest just sit on their ass and gripe about it in the break room and to their friends/family, then yessir the powers that be. Or they're part of the problem and it's more important to them to talk to children about their sexual kinks than teach them to read and do math.
In keeping with the topic regarding TEACHERS and their power to effect "changes," you do realize that this problem has been going on for far longer than there have been "Socialists in the system" and "Far Left" ideologies.. right? Far longer than "sex in the classroom" or "transitions."
What EXACTLY are teachers supposed to do about this? They can't strike. Speaking up gets them replaced or reprimanded. Parents do not support them in any way. Principals and BoE members don't support them as they are terrified of lawsuits.
So... what is the solution? If all teachers band together and quit, then parents will be like "Oh my GAWD... who is gonna babysit our spawn all day? How dare they QUIT??!!
 

vraiblonde

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In keeping with the topic regarding TEACHERS and their power to effect "changes," you do realize that this problem has been going on for far longer than there have been "Socialists in the system" and "Far Left" ideologies.. right? Far longer than "sex in the classroom" or "transitions."
What EXACTLY are teachers supposed to do about this? They can't strike. Speaking up gets them replaced or reprimanded. Parents do not support them in any way. Principals and BoE members don't support them as they are terrified of lawsuits.
So... what is the solution? If all teachers band together and quit, then parents will be like "Oh my GAWD... who is gonna babysit our spawn all day? How dare they QUIT??!!

You're right. It's futile and everyone should kill themselves.

:rolleyes:

You mention fear and that's where the overlords have us. We're a bunch of chickenshits. God forbid we get - *gasp* - reprimanded! How tragic that pedophile Marxists may get mad at us.

There are solutions but people don't have the courage to sass the overlords. We forget that those people work for us, not the other way around.
 

vraiblonde

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Also I'm an American and I believe in democracy. If parents in a school district want their child raped and assaulted in the classroom, and want some teacher encouraging their kid to undergo drugs and surgery to change their sex, that's none of my business. I just don't want to hear them bitching about what they chose, and I definitely don't want to pay for it.

All these crybabies whining and mewling about their leadership, and what do you think they do come election time?
 

OccamsRazor

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You're right. It's futile and everyone should kill themselves.

:rolleyes:

You mention fear and that's where the overlords have us. We're a bunch of chickenshits. God forbid we get - *gasp* - reprimanded! How tragic that pedophile Marxists may get mad at us.

There are solutions but people don't have the courage to sass the overlords. We forget that those people work for us, not the other way around.
The points I am making are from the perspective of the TEACHERS. They can really do NOTHING about this.
Although, I do agree with some of what you are trying to say. When you say "Those people work for us" I am assuming you are referring to the PARENTS. The PARENTS have the power to effect real change. And you are correct. Parents are the ones with ZERO backbone in this matter seeing as most or all of the power to change the situation lies with them.
 

vraiblonde

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The points are am making are from the perspective of the TEACHERS. They can really do NOTHING about this.

And I'm telling you that's not true. They just don't have the courage, as a group, to act. One teacher might be all, "Yeah, this is bullshit," but if the rest are cowering in a corner that teacher will be disregarded or punished. Same with parents (unless that lone parent is me, then those bitches better git and do).

Teacher's union leaders are elected by teachers. They don't just magically appear.

Mayors and Governors are elected.

BoE members are elected.
 

LightRoasted

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For your consideration ...


See, and that is tragic for our future generations. But I don't blame them. Parents need to step up and in the most at-risk districts parents are nowhere to be found. So what are the teachers supposed to do?


Parents need to step up and stop abrogating their responsibility to raising and educating their children. Instead of pawning them off.
 

OccamsRazor

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They just don't have the courage, as a group, to act.
The courage to violate state law AND get terminated while accomplishing virtually nothing?
Mayors and Governors are elected.

BoE members are elected.
Yep they do. And.. WHO elects them? As far as I know, it isn't just teachers who are allowed to vote. For every teacher's vote, there are 25-30+ votes from parents, people w/o children, etc.
The people you mention are the people that draft, make, and enforce the laws and rules.
Teachers DO have a say in these elections BUT, their choice if FAR outweighed by others.
 

Merlin99

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I'm not sure that's true. You'd think it would be true because if you or I or anyone sane was a teacher that's what we'd want. But we see teachers every day on social media who don't appear to give a single damn about classroom safety and the welfare of the children. Randi Weingarten is head of the teachers' union and she clearly couldn't care less about the kids. Her #1 priority is the Democrat Party and Socialist agenda, and ranting about President Trump. She seems to care a great deal about sexualizing and indoctrinating very young children. Educating them, not so much.

I still stand that teachers as a whole have a great deal of power, they just choose not to exercise it OR what's happening in the schools is what they want. It's like voters - we have a great deal of power that we choose not to exercise or we want stupid sht like free healthcare for illegal aliens. The education system in this country is political, just like pretty much everything else. Randi W should have been out on her ass after the covid fiasco. yet there she still is.....
My wife and I have been pretty good friends of most of our kids teachers and their principals and I can tell for a fact that self preservation is a big concern for them. We had a neighbor who had to quit being a middle school teacher when one of the kids whacked her in the back of the head with a lunch tray causing her to have seizures. It's all well and good to tell teachers that they have all of the power, but in reality, with no backing, the only power they really have is the power to quit.
 

LtownTaxpayer

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Well, for one thing they vote for their leadership and union representative. They vote in local elections for BoE members. They have direct access to the Principal, who has direct access to those above him/her.

You're right that bucking the Socialists and far Left *could be* professional suicide because it's typically only one teacher with courage enough to confront bad policy. The rest just sit on their ass and gripe about it in the break room and to their friends/family, then yessir the powers that be. Or they're part of the problem and it's more important to them to talk to children about their sexual kinks than teach them to read and do math.

Parents have a sht TON of power that they choose not to exercise. I lost count of how many times I marched up to my kids' schools to raise hell about something - and all the other parents who were griping about the same thing, do you think they were anywhere to be found?

It takes courage to buck the system, and humans are largely a bunch of chickenshits. So you get what you get.
I never remember being able to vote for our leadership team and union representation. But then again our association was never completely honest with the membership - on surveys about insurance, elections, or other items. There was a committee that that was assembled that was supposed to analyze candidate questionnaires in prep to bring candidates in for interviews in from of the committee. If there was no completed questionnaire, there was supposed to be no interview or endorsement. But the person running the committee didn't follow the rules for democratic candidates. I know someone who served on this committee and saw it happen. The committee ended up endorsing the individual for office and my friend resigned from the Board of Directors. He told me that it was all BS. I was out too.
 

awpitt

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As "public employees" they are prohibited from striking. Md. State Government Code Ann. § 22-205
This is true so what teachers do, instead of striking, is they do a "work to rule" action where teachers work strictly to what's required in their contract and nothing more. It's used to demonstrate the amount of free labor and materials teachers provide over and above the requirements on a regular basis.
 

PrchJrkr

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This is true so what teachers do, instead of striking, is they do a "work to rule" action where teachers work strictly to what's required in their contract and nothing more. It's used to demonstrate the amount of free labor and materials teachers provide over and above the requirements on a regular basis.
Kind of like every other job in the "real world" where if you just do the minimum, you stay in the same position/salary range forever...
 

LightRoasted

If I may ...
For your consideration ...


This is true so what teachers do, instead of striking, is they do a "work to rule" action where teachers work strictly to what's required in their contract and nothing more. It's used to demonstrate the amount of free labor and materials teachers provide over and above the requirements on a regular basis.


Not only that, but they teach some degenerate stuff as well. Sure our locals say they don't, but they do.

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StmarysCity79

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