Chris0nllyn
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Transcript of the whole arrest.
https://www.startribune.com/read-the-transcript-of-thomas-lane-s-body-camera-footage/571678791/
Body cam footage of George Floyd arrest
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Transcript of the whole arrest.
https://www.startribune.com/read-the-transcript-of-thomas-lane-s-body-camera-footage/571678791/
PsyOps
Pixelated
I'm still mixed over this. I was already convinced Floyd resisted to some degree. Was his resistance enough to warrant what Chauvin did? Was Floyd's pleas just a tactic to avoid being arrested? It's pretty apparent to me Floyd was suffering a major panic attack. People have died during panic attacks. Is this an example of cops not being trained to identify this sort of medical situation?
Then there is the knee on the neck. Was that really justified, even if Floyd had lived. But, he died. I almost believe that, if the cops had been able to get Floyd in that car and shut the doors, that he still would've have died. But, I do have a hard time with Chauvin keeping his knee planted firmed in Floyd's neck.
Then there is the knee on the neck. Was that really justified, even if Floyd had lived. But, he died. I almost believe that, if the cops had been able to get Floyd in that car and shut the doors, that he still would've have died. But, I do have a hard time with Chauvin keeping his knee planted firmed in Floyd's neck.
WingsOfGold
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Looks like the convicted felon screwed the pooch. All he needed to do was STFU and comply but maybe the illegal drugs in his body wouldn't allow that.
I've seen that before. The guy whined from the start. Asking the cops not to shoot him. Refusing to get into the cop car claiming he was claustrophobic and couldn't breathe. He was sitting in a car when they stopped him. Wasn't claustrophobic then. He was the one who wanted to lay in the street. The cops kept asking him if he was on something.
LightRoasted
If I may ...
If I may ...
Ehhhh. Nothing lost in this exchange. Moving on .....
Ehhhh. Nothing lost in this exchange. Moving on .....
NOT for 8 minuets ...... not for 2 min after Floyd stopped breathing, NOT after his partner told him
he's not breathing
BOP
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PsyOps
Pixelated
I would really like to know what Chauvin was thinking. It's easy to be armchair quarterback cop and criticize what they do and judge their intentions. I find it hard to believe his intentions were to kill Floyd, especially with all the cameras around, and the intense attention and scrutiny being placed on cops these days. I don't know, maybe Chauvin was just a bad cop. He does a questionable past.
From everything I read Floyd was passively resisting doing the rag doll thing to make life more difficult on the cops
Chauvin INHO engaged in ' respect my authority ' mentality .....
I'm going to teach this ass hole a lesson
Chauvin was a Bad Cop with 18 complaints filed against him
I don't think he intended to murder Floyd ... but he was hyped on that moral indignation of having a criminal refuse to co operate
Certainly man slaughter ... depraved indifference .... the fact his partner questioned him about what was going on and Chauvin blew him off shows Chauvin has some mental issues IMHO
PsyOps
Pixelated
I tend to agree. I try not to read peoples' minds, but you can see by his non-verbals he was definitely indignant towards his partners and Floyd.
The one thing I do like to keep in mind - and this is not, by any means, to justify what Chauvin did - is, I get the sense that a lot of cops are getting fed up with this 'cops are the bad guys and the bad guys are the good guys' mentality. They go into almost every situation now, second-guessing what they do, that might be framed against them, ruining their lives and careers. Their job is impossible enough; but to have this added contempt towards them from the public has to be, at a minimum, frustrating. And these people who hate cops have become so emboldened in their hatred that they feel they can do nearly anything they want to a cop and get away with it. I watched that video where this woman sucker-punched a cop twice. These weren't just little pokes. These were full-on Mike Tyson hooks to the face. This country has gone nuts.
Although I'm not condoning what this or any other cop has done that was criminal in nature, I agree with Psy. It does seem like the cops are fed up and I can't blame them.
They deal with dirtbags, a$$holes, murderers, rapists and theives on a daily basis that, mostly, get out of jail and back on the street before the cop is done with the paperwork.
Contrary to Hissys "Cops are Evil" mentality, I have pretty good interactions with cops all my life, but then I've never been a felon nor given them a hard time when I was caught dead to rights doing something stupid in my car. ( Once even for cutting doughnuts on 925 during a snowstorm and having a blast)
They're usually easy going and will even cut you a break if you just take the attitude, "yeah, I ####ed up. You got me." and move on.
They deal with dirtbags, a$$holes, murderers, rapists and theives on a daily basis that, mostly, get out of jail and back on the street before the cop is done with the paperwork.
Contrary to Hissys "Cops are Evil" mentality, I have pretty good interactions with cops all my life, but then I've never been a felon nor given them a hard time when I was caught dead to rights doing something stupid in my car. ( Once even for cutting doughnuts on 925 during a snowstorm and having a blast)
They're usually easy going and will even cut you a break if you just take the attitude, "yeah, I ####ed up. You got me." and move on.
IMHO, it all boils down to one thing. Had Floyd complied with the officers' orders, he would be alive today. I hope this gets a bad cop off the streets. I respect police officers and what they do, however, I despise cops that abuse their authority and treat everybody like lesser human beings. Floyd was by no means compliant, but he didn't deserve to die. He should've been in jail from his prior convictions.
It's past time to look at activist judges. We have them right here in St. Mary's. I've witnessed first hand how repeat offenders are treated by the judicial system locally and it's appalling.
It's past time to look at activist judges. We have them right here in St. Mary's. I've witnessed first hand how repeat offenders are treated by the judicial system locally and it's appalling.
BLM should have jumped on Brionna Taylor instead. A much more worthy cause and one I think we all agree on more or less.
You have to wonder why the media gloms onto these criminal POS and further a fake news narrative. It's like they think they truth will never come out. I've no doubt that they all - including the politicians - knew what really happened, so I'm guessing they just wanted a race riot.
You have to wonder why the media gloms onto these criminal POS and further a fake news narrative. It's like they think they truth will never come out. I've no doubt that they all - including the politicians - knew what really happened, so I'm guessing they just wanted a race riot.
Floyd gave them a prepackaged video for the news cycle
Taylor is a better story I agree ......
Hessian
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Right there is the crux of the matter.
If the DA (under intense social pressure) decides to throw "Murder 1st or 2nd degree" at Chauvin...I simply cannot believe a jury will go to that extent (unless they fear for their lives). If they acquit of those charges...um, expect a spasm of more Burning, Looting & Murder.
Timing: If those charges get applied before the election...even that could reignite the crazies.
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