Broadband expansion in southern Md

calm_down

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To everyone whos sick of comcast or breeze line like me, Governor Moore announced awards for broadband expansion. This included awards for Verizon to expand its FIOS service to the southern parts of St. Marys county (77 miles of fiber in Lexington Park down to Scotland) and southern Charles County (Hughesville, Benedict). Its for internet and phone only in St Marys County and hopefully they off some good intro deals.
 

Clem72

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To everyone whos sick of comcast or breeze line like me, Governor Moore announced awards for broadband expansion. This included awards for Verizon to expand its FIOS service to the southern parts of St. Marys county (77 miles of fiber in Lexington Park down to Scotland) and southern Charles County (Hughesville, Benedict). Its for internet and phone only in St Marys County and hopefully they off some good intro deals.
Skipped right past LTown? Oh well.
 

calm_down

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Skipped right past LTown? Oh well.
Verizon put the 3 bids in that would have covered the entire county which I saw during a council meeting but the state only accepted 1. From what I hear, Comcast may expanding, but not confirmed
 

BernieP

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Skipped right past LTown? Oh well.
They ran a line down 235 for the base, and later expanded it for the schools on that side of the county.
The Potomac corridor didn't get fiber. Because of the cable franchise deal, most residential and business customers can't get the fiber even on the 235 corridor. There's a loophole, if the development was not part of the plan when the cable agreement was signed, it is fair game.
That's how one small group of townhomes in Wildewood got FiOS - or so I am told.
 

Gilligan

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There is FIOS down to Piney Point..it stops at the Lundeberg School apparently. Verizon quoted me a paltry $58,000 to run it from there another 2 miles or so farther south to our business. Such a deal.
 

gemma_rae

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To everyone whos sick of comcast or breeze line like me, Governor Moore announced awards for broadband expansion. This included awards for Verizon to expand its FIOS service to the southern parts of St. Marys county (77 miles of fiber in Lexington Park down to Scotland) and southern Charles County (Hughesville, Benedict). Its for internet and phone only in St Marys County and hopefully they off some good intro deals.
Let me ask you something. If you want a TV package and not just subscribe to a streaming service over internet, are you really going to get internet and TV from two different companies?
 

gemma_rae

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There is FIOS down to Piney Point..it stops at the Lundeberg School apparently. Verizon quoted me a paltry $58,000 to run it from there another 2 miles or so farther south to our business. Such a deal.
Did they mention how many gigabits/megabits?
 

gemma_rae

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I don't recall what speeds they were offering...they lost me at the installation cost.
I'm betting they were quoting you the price of a High Bandwith Circuit, like a T1 or something. If it is not "usual and customary" for your area, you have to pay for the placement of the fiber optic cable at "fully compensatory" rates. That means you're paying like you own the trucks, the insurance, the permits, the techs, paying their benefits, etc, etc. Then...Verizon retains ownership and your neighbor gets the same service for a fraction of the cost because now there is a fiber cable right outside!

But you're a nice guy, right?:smile:
 

Gilligan

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I'm betting they were quoting you the price of a High Bandwith Circuit, like a T1 or something. If it is not "usual and customary" for your area, you have to pay for the placement of the fiber optic cable at "fully compensatory" rates. That means you're paying like you own the trucks, the insurance, the permits, the techs, paying their benefits, etc, etc. Then...Verizon retains ownership and your neighbor gets the same service for a fraction of the cost because now there is a fiber cable right outside!
Our sad T1 was what we wanted to replace... it was limited to 1.4 MB total bandwidth. Verizon kept bombarding us with sales calls offering FIOS so we simply said : "Sure..have it!..shoot us a price". We ended up having Breezeline come in with a new feed and business service and it's been OK for the price...less than $500/month. three phone lines, and typically 50MB upload and 100MB download actual measured service.
 

gemma_rae

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Our sad T1 was what we wanted to replace... it was limited to 1.4 MB total bandwidth. Verizon kept bombarding us with sales calls offering FIOS so we simply said : "Sure..have it!..shoot us a price". We ended up having Breezeline come in with a new feed and business service and it's been OK for the price...less than $500/month. three phone lines, and typically 50MB upload and 100MB download actual measured service.
FiOS simply means Fiber Optic Service. It is a term that is tossed around so much that it literally means nothing anymore.

A Verizon engineer will use the terms High Bandwith & MB's or GB's, or FTTP which is fiber to the premise. FTTP is then broken down to Double play (Internet and phone) or Triple play (internet, phone, and video). Verizon needs a Video Franchise by county before it can provide video. Streaming services are not considered video. Breezeline has the franchise in St Mary's, that's why you can only get a double play from Verizon
 

Gilligan

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FiOS simply means Fiber Optic Service.
And to repeat....Verizon quoted us $58 grand to provided us that here at our island office. ;-)

Our advanced marine control systems are a distributed networked configuration, fiber connected. Since 2003. I've heard about that stuff before.
 

gemma_rae

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And to repeat....Verizon quoted us $58 grand to provided us that here at our island office. ;-)

Our advanced marine control systems are a distributed networked configuration, fiber connected. Since 2003. I've heard about that stuff before.
And to repeat...the people in India didn't know what they were saying, and it was a T1 that Verizon engineering quoted a price for.
 

Gilligan

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And to repeat...the people in India didn't know what they were saying, and it was a T1 that Verizon engineering quoted a price for.
Weird..because it was all local engineering folks that came down here and did the site assessment.... We had a T1 from Verizon for about 15 years..but at 1.4MB, split between voice and data, it was well beyond inadequate when we finally got rid of it..
 

Gilligan

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Got a name?
It was about 4 years ago...I might still have the contact info in email archives. There were quite a few "local" Verizon people involved. We were feeling hopeful that it was the real deal after all the tech-types departed...until we received the quote and form to sign to proceed...LOL.
 

gemma_rae

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It was about 4 years ago...I might still have the contact info in email archives. There were quite a few "local" Verizon people involved. We were feeling hopeful that it was the real deal after all the tech-types departed...until we received the quote and form to sign to proceed...LOL.
The old "Shock and Awe!" tactic. If they were local, I'll know the name.
 

Gilligan

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The old "Shock and Awe!" tactic. If they were local, I'll know the name.
Oh they were very local. I was beginning to think we'd have to invite some of the Verizon techs in to Thanksgiving dinner, they were here so often trying to save our totally crappy unreliable 1.4MB T1 service. Copper lines were literally disappearing and they were making substitutions on the fly between us (end of a spur..the very end) and wherever they could find a good conductor beyond where the breaks were occurring.
 

gemma_rae

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Oh they were very local. I was beginning to think we'd have to invite some of the Verizon techs in to Thanksgiving dinner, they were here so often trying to save our totally crappy unreliable 1.4MB T1 service. Copper lines were literally disappearing and they were making substitutions on the fly between us (end of a spur..the very end) and wherever they could find a good conductor beyond where the breaks were occurring.
Those were cable maintenance techs, not engineers. I'll tell you what, we don't want your business. Go phuck yourself. Toodles!:howdy:

And I mean that in the nicest way possible!:dance: Thanx for not choosing Verizon.
 

Gilligan

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Those were cable maintenance techs, not engineers. I'll tell you what, we don't want your business. Go phuck yourself. Toodles!:howdy:

And I mean that in the nicest way possible!:dance: Thanx for not choosing Verizon.
If I had a dollah for every Verizon rep that tried to provide our island office building with high-speed internets over the years, I'd have a lotta dollahs.

Yr welcome!

The cable techs were always here trying to keep the dying T1 alive. The team that came in to assess for the new high-speed was a totally different crew. ;-)
 
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