Bullying or Racism .... or both

RPMDAD

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Pretty sure Eric Adelson is gay. Either that or he spent his childhood tattling to Mommy over every little thing. Maybe still does.

This is an offensive tackle, people. His job is to grab other men and throw them to the ground. It's absurd to think that he's off crying because some bad man hurt his feelings.

I think this guy said it perfectly:

The New York Giants' Antrel Rolle told WFAN that Martin "is just as much to blame as Richie because he allowed it to happen. At this level, you're a man. You're not a little boy. You're not a freshman in college. You're a man."

AND!! I have a rant so fasten up!

Jonathan Martin is 24 years old, which means he is a product of the crybaby generation that wasn't allowed to play dodgeball because it's too mean; when every kid got a trophy and papers weren't graded; and yes, when everything that offends your tender feelings is bullying.

These kids are not cut out for the real world, and certainly not for professional sports. Martin needs to get a teaching job so he can put his new age attitude to work because he DOES NOT belong on a football field. I don't know how he even freaking made it to the pros.

Vrai, i agree with you 100%, these guys are both monsters. Martin, 6'5', 312lbs, 24 yrs old. Incognito, nice name by the way. 6'3', 319 lbs, 30 yrs old. If i was Martin i would have kicked Incognito's a$$. Now me being a small guy 6'1", 190 lbs, i would have started the conversation off with Incognito with a baseball bat hit to his nuts, if that didn't do anything, run like hell. If the baseball bat trick to the nuts put him down, then i would have commenced to kick his a$$. If Incognito couldn't play a few games and i found out that the coaches had sicced him on me, i would sue everybody.
 

Hank

my war
Hey. The cracka receiver from Philly was throwing it around on video and they seemed to rally around him as well. I think it's ok for us to use it now.....:shrug:

PHILADELPHIA Saying he was "ashamed and disgusted" with himself, Eagles wide receiver Riley Cooper apologized repeatedly for making a racial slur at a Kenny Chesney concert that was caught on video and led to him getting fined.

The video of Cooper using the N-word surfaced Wednesday on the Internet. Cooper issued a statement of apology then met with reporters outside the team's practice facility.

"This is the lowest of lows," Cooper said. "This is not the type of person I want to be portrayed as. This isn't the type of person I am. I'm extremely sorry."

Cooper said he was drinking when he directed the slur at an African-American security guard at the concert in June.

"That's no excuse for what I said. I don't use that term," he said. "I was raised better than that. I have a great mom and dad and they're disgusted with my actions."

Cooper said he was fined a significant amount of money by the Eagles.

"We are shocked and appalled by Riley Cooper's words," Eagles owner Jeffrey Lurie said. "This sort of behavior or attitude from anyone has no role in a civil society. He has accepted responsibility for his words and his actions. He has been fined for this incident."



Philadelphia Eagles' Riley Cooper apologizes for racial slur - CBS News
 

Inkd

Active Member
Pretty sure Eric Adelson is gay. Either that or he spent his childhood tattling to Mommy over every little thing. Maybe still does.

This is an offensive tackle, people. His job is to grab other men and throw them to the ground. It's absurd to think that he's off crying because some bad man hurt his feelings.

I think this guy said it perfectly:

The New York Giants' Antrel Rolle told WFAN that Martin "is just as much to blame as Richie because he allowed it to happen. At this level, you're a man. You're not a little boy. You're not a freshman in college. You're a man."

AND!! I have a rant so fasten up!

Jonathan Martin is 24 years old, which means he is a product of the crybaby generation that wasn't allowed to play dodgeball because it's too mean; when every kid got a trophy and papers weren't graded; and yes, when everything that offends your tender feelings is bullying.

These kids are not cut out for the real world, and certainly not for professional sports. Martin needs to get a teaching job so he can put his new age attitude to work because he DOES NOT belong on a football field. I don't know how he even freaking made it to the pros.

Maybe he is gay, I don't hold that against him. One of the worst ass whoopings I took when I thai boxed was from a gay man.

His job on the field is to grab people and throw them around. Not off the field and not in the locker room.

Suppose he did take a baseball bat to the guys nuts, or beat the #### out of him. I mean REALLY fvck him up!!!!! Then all of a sudden he is out of a job possibly. Possibly no other teams want him because now he is a liability, no one knows when he is going to just snap. Then it's all about how football players are ticking roided out timebombs.

I played football, certainly not at that level, but you expect #### talking from the other players on the team. NOT from your own team mates. Your team mates are the ones that should back you up, have your back. Pick you up when needed.

Now it's coming out that the coaches may have instructed Incognito to "toughen" up Martin? Seriously, WTF? Did they order a "code red"??

Apparently he was tough enough to make it through college ball and into the pros.
 

Inkd

Active Member
Brian Orakpo, linebacker for the Skins summed it up on a radio show yesterday and said if someone was harassing me like that, he would get punched in the face. Done deal.

Easy enough when you have millions of dollars and lawyers on speed dial.

For the rest of us, not so much.

If I introduced everyones teeth to the back of their throat that pissed me off, I'd be locked up for life.
 

Hank

my war
Easy enough when you have millions of dollars and lawyers on speed dial.

For the rest of us, not so much.

If I introduced everyones teeth to the back of their throat that pissed me off, I'd be locked up for life.

Right... But he was just saying that if something like that was happening in his locker room, not about society in general.
 

Inkd

Active Member
Right... But he was just saying that if something like that was happening in his locker room, not about society in general.

True.

My whole point of the article was really that a person is being roasted for NOT doing what everyone expects.

So many times football players are in the news for something they did and are skewered over it. Whether it be DUI's or even killing someone.

Now here is a guy doing exactly the opposite of what everyone would expect him to do based on the fact that he is a football player, a man. And, he is being roasted for it.

Ironic. At least to me.
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
The End of Expectations


The issue, which Phillips and so many media yakking heads continually gloss over, is whether Martin’s reaction, however genuine, was appropriate to the stimulus that prompted it, given what we as a society expect from adults of Martin’s age. Phillips and others cannot see to this point – to this class of person (which tends to be liberal), there is no such thing as how a person ought to feel, there is only how they do feel. And if how they feel is genuine, however irrational, then it needs to be “honored” and coddled.

A society cannot long survive in the complete absence of expectations about behavior in response to stimuli. If no one can ever say, “Hey man, you need to throttle it back, as a grown adult you should be able to handle this,” without themselves being the bad guy in the situation, we may as well all pack it up and go home. We had a nice run, America, time to let someone else have a try.

And it’s perfectly appropriate to say, as New York Giants offensive lineman Antrel Rolle did, that Incognito’s actions were deplorable, while at the same time recognizing that as an adult, people are always going to try to push your boundaries, and your reaction to that can’t always be to capitulate and surrender. And in fact, when we see someone’s reaction that seems so out of bounds in terms of proportion to the stimuli that caused it, it’s definitely probative as to whether we believe the genuineness of the reaction, especially when contradictory evidence continues to surface indicating that Martin may not have been as upset about the text messages as he is now claiming at the time he received him, and given that Martin’s play on the field was roundly criticized before this incident ever occurred.

And yes, we should all be glad that if Martin was in the middle of a breakdown, he went to the hospital rather than getting a gun and shooting up the Dolphins’ locker room, as some have suggested. But does that mean that we can under no circumstances say, “Great, Jonathan, but maybe next time let’s work on some coping skills so you don’t have to go to the hospital next time you get a mean text message?” While we are busy burying the Dolphins’ organization for failure of oversight (over what two fully grown adults were doing over the privacy of a cell phone connection), can we at least ask whether Martin’s family, college, and high school coaches ought to have better prepared him to handle himself when someone upset him?

To Brian Phillips and so many others in the sports media, the answer is a resounding “no.” For the sake of America, I hope the answer on main street where everyday people live continues to be yes, in spite of the tsking we will undoubtedly take from our betters on the TV screen. Otherwise, every man for himself, straight to the breakdown lane.
 
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Grumpy

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I am reserving judgement until our exalted leader weighs in with his opinion. This situation is ripe for some of his stupidity, I can't believe he hasn't said anything yet.
 

vraiblonde

Board Mommy
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Ironic. At least to me.

Not to me. Traditional gender roles are alive and well, despite the efforts of the Left to demolish them. We expect men to act like men, not bawling little girls. ESPECIALLY! when they freaking tackle people for a living.
 

puggymom

Active Member
This comes from my hubby since he reads ALL the Dolphin news but he has said that the entire Dolphin locker room is siding with Incognito. You'd think if there was seriously an issue, especially a race one, the locker room would be divided.
 

vraiblonde

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This comes from my hubby since he reads ALL the Dolphin news but he has said that the entire Dolphin locker room is siding with Incognito. You'd think if there was seriously an issue, especially a race one, the locker room would be divided.

You'd think so. A friend of mine says there's more to the story, some big conspiracy about...I'm not sure what about. Something like the coach was trying to fire Martin without paying him his contract dough...something like that.

Anyway, if the Dolphins owner has that kind of power - to not only control all his own players but everyone in the whole NFL - then he is the Supreme Ruler of the Universe and resistance is futile.
 

Inkd

Active Member
Not to me. Traditional gender roles are alive and well, despite the efforts of the Left to demolish them. We expect men to act like men, not bawling little girls. ESPECIALLY! when they freaking tackle people for a living.

I've pissed blood, had my nose surgically repaired and spent more time then I care to remember in emergency rooms for doing what a "man" is supposed to do.

I learned the hard way that there is a time to fight and a time to walk.

I'll walk a mile to avoid a confrontation. But, if I'm braced up at 1 and 1/10 of a mile? That person better have packed a lunch and brought a driver.

:buddies:
 

vraiblonde

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I've pissed blood, had my nose surgically repaired and spent more time then I care to remember in emergency rooms for doing what a "man" is supposed to do.

I learned the hard way that there is a time to fight and a time to walk.

I'll walk a mile to avoid a confrontation. But, if I'm braced up at 1 and 1/10 of a mile? That person better have packed a lunch and brought a driver.

:buddies:

But you also don't tackle people for a living.

This isn't some CPA we're talking about; this is a man who chose a highly physical testosterone fueled career path. You either hang with the big dogs or...

:shrug:
 

Inkd

Active Member
But you also don't tackle people for a living.

This isn't some CPA we're talking about; this is a man who chose a highly physical testosterone fueled career path. You either hang with the big dogs or...

:shrug:

Yeah, I see that side of the argument. But I just don't think the guys manhood should be questioned because he chose to walk away.

Two big ol' sides of beef like that going at it is going to be a lose lose proposition for both of them.
 

Monello

Smarter than the average bear
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See something, say something.


Former Miami Dolphins offensive lineman Jonathan Martin has been detained for questioning in Los Angeles as a result of a threatening image posted on social media, according to reports.

"The individual we believe responsible for the social media post in question has been detained and our investigation is ongoing," the Los
The image on the Instagram account said: "When you're a bully victim & a coward, your options are suicide, or revenge." The image showed a shotgun, ammunition and tagged four accounts, including those belonging to former Miami teammates Richie Incognito and Mike Pouncey. It also included hashtags for Harvard-Westlake, where he went to high school, and the Miami Dolphins.
 
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