Busted!

[Crewdawg141]

I doubt it. They usually just say that you have to use both...which I didn't like. My BMW has linked brakes as well if you use the "front" brake and it will distribute the braking power much better than I ever could. I'd only touch the back brake on mine if I was riding in dirt/gravel.
They might fail you on the spot...just for fun

Well after reading this whole list of posts, I am glad to hear that the Navy is taking the screws to all riders just like the USAF. I am not a SB Rider and I am getting tired of getting an almost weekly brief about SB's and the danger associated. We filled out a form here that forfeits our SGLI and other benes if something happens to us on any bike while not wearing the USAF Required Safety Gear. Has the Navy done that to their AD and Reserve riders?

 

[edinsomd]

I doubt it. They usually just say that you have to use both...which I didn't like. My BMW has linked brakes as well if you use the "front" brake and it will distribute the braking power much better than I ever could. I'd only touch the back brake on mine if I was riding in dirt/gravel.
They might fail you on the spot...just for fun

Humor is your friend, and you need to practice your braking skills.

 

[glhs837]

Well after reading this whole list of posts, I am glad to hear that the Navy is taking the screws to all riders just like the USAF. I am not a SB Rider and I am getting tired of getting an almost weekly brief about SB's and the danger associated. We filled out a form here that forfeits our SGLI and other benes if something happens to us on any bike while not wearing the USAF Required Safety Gear. Has the Navy done that to their AD and Reserve riders?

Hmmmmm.

Myths and Rumors About SGLI/VGLI Insurance (U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs)

True or False: SGLI or VGLI won't pay if I die in a motorcycle accident and I was not wearing a helmet.

False: Your SGLI or VGLI proceeds will be paid to your beneficiary or beneficiaries, regardless of whether you were or were not wearing a helmet.

See, heres where it gets tricky. They do thier best to make you think you will not get then benefits, without ever actually saying categoricaly you wont. Its mind game designed to get you to wear the gear, and they believe that a little misdirection in the name of good is acceptable.
In reality, your SGLI will be paid. What that statement says is, I'll bet is like this.....

I understand that failure to comply with Aie Force regulations could result in my loss of motorcycle driving privileges. If I am involved in a motorcycle accident and I have violated any of the military regulations governing motorcycles, I could be held liable for all medical cost that I incur. Additionally, if I violate any of the requirements and sustain fatal injuries, my survivors could be denied military benefits, including SGLI.

Now, will they hold you liable for medical? Dont know for sure, but I never saw such a case. And the VA says they pay regardless. Dont get me wrong, I advocate full safety gear, I just hate to see games played like this. Oh, and I dont view orange vests as safety gear. I avoid cars, counting on them seeing and avoinding me is a sucker bet.

 

[edinsomd]

Well after reading this whole list of posts, I am glad to hear that the Navy is taking the screws to all riders just like the USAF. I am not a SB Rider and I am getting tired of getting an almost weekly brief about SB's and the danger associated. We filled out a form here that forfeits our SGLI and other benes if something happens to us on any bike while not wearing the USAF Required Safety Gear. Has the Navy done that to their AD and Reserve riders?

You must be a blast at parties, too.

 

[ylexot]

Humor is your friend, and you need to practice your braking skills.

I got the humor and was giving humor back

 

[edinsomd]

I got the humor and was giving humor back

In that case, humor accepted!

 

[Crewdawg141]

Hmmmmm.

Myths and Rumors About SGLI/VGLI Insurance (U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs)




See, heres where it gets tricky. They do thier best to make you think you will not get then benefits, without ever actually saying categoricaly you wont. Its mind game designed to get you to wear the gear, and they believe that a little misdirection in the name of good is acceptable.
In reality, your SGLI will be paid. What that statement says is, I'll bet is like this.....




Now, will they hold you liable for medical? Dont know for sure, but I never saw such a case. And the VA says they pay regardless. Dont get me wrong, I advocate full safety gear, I just hate to see games played like this. Oh, and I dont view orange vests as safety gear. I avoid cars, counting on them seeing and avoinding me is a sucker bet.

As a whole I agree with the base requirement of clothing for riders, but I am in the same thought as you I do not agree with a vest being the reason of why or why not I would be in an accident. I did not think that they could fully withhold benefits, but that is what they are telling us here.

 

[Crewdawg141]

You must be a blast at parties, too.

I can be, but I am honestly interested in hearing what y'all that ride onto Pax deal with as I am hoping to eventually find a job down there. From what I have gathered so far it sounds very similar. Do they require base stickers on bikes or is an ID and a current MSF Card sufficient?

 

[glhs837]

Yep, I am mostly geared up for every ride. only place I slack sometimes is footwear and pants. Always have gloves, always have a full face helmet and my CE armored jacket, every time. Most times I wear my old flight boots, sometimes just hard soled shoes, and jeans or my dockers for work.

 

[Crewdawg141]

Yep, I am mostly geared up for every ride. only place I slack sometimes is footwear and pants. Always have gloves, always have a full face helmet and my CE armored jacket, every time. Most times I wear my old flight boots, sometimes just hard soled shoes, and jeans or my dockers for work.

Sounds like a winning combination. Unfortunately they do not provide common sense when getting any form of a drivers license. I just shake my head at the guys that I see running around in either shorts or wind pants.

 

[desertrat]

I can be, but I am honestly interested in hearing what y'all that ride onto Pax deal with as I am hoping to eventually find a job down there. From what I have gathered so far it sounds very similar. Do they require base stickers on bikes or is an ID and a current MSF Card sufficient?

Stickers are required too.

 

[Crewdawg141]

Stickers are required too.

Thats stupid! We are allowed 2 vehicle decals at AAFB and my HD is my 3rd vehicle. So I would need a visitors pass everytime that I went down there. I will just drive my gas suckers on Pax!

 

[glhs837]

No limit on stickers here, get as many as you have vehicles to put them on.

Andrews still does stickers? I thought all Air Force and Army had gone away from that, seeing as we are all %100 ID check at all times.

 

[Crewdawg141]

No limit on stickers here, get as many as you have vehicles to put them on.

Andrews still does stickers? I thought all Air Force and Army had gone away from that, seeing as we are all %100 ID check at all times.

Andrews is optional. But when I have driven to other installations I would be forced to get a temp pass even at other USAF Bases. So I broke down and got my stickers for my trucks. But we are still supposed to only have 2 stickers by some policy here.