But you must follow the science......

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College gender studies professor allegedly fails student for using banned term 'biological women'

University of Cincinnati student Olivia Krolczyk says her project proposal received a zero because she wrote "biological women" on "Jesse Watters Primetime."

www.foxnews.com

 

[HemiHauler]

At best, the dumb bint is stretching the truth. At worst, she’s outright lying for TikTok attention.

I’m going with the latter.

 

[limblips]

At best, the dumb bint is stretching the truth. At worst, she’s outright lying for TikTok attention.

I’m going with the latter.

Because it couldn't happen is the liberal indoctrination system. You seem to be able to dismiss things quite handily with no supporting information. BTW, she quoted what the indoctrinator wrote opening herself up to legal issues if she were lying.

 

[HemiHauler]

Because it couldn't happen is the liberal indoctrination system. You seem to be able to dismiss things quite handily with no supporting information. BTW, she quoted what the indoctrinator wrote opening herself up to legal issues if she were lying.

Oh gosh.

That clears it right up!

 

[Clem72]

At best, the dumb bint is stretching the truth. At worst, she’s outright lying for TikTok attention.

I’m going with the latter.

The article says she failed a paper, and that the teacher offered to re-grade if she removed the offending language. Sounds completely plausible since the only way it would actually cause the girl to fail the class was if she was already doing horribly and this one paper was make or break for the whole course and she also chose not to rewrite it.

So no, she didn't fail because she used those words. She failed because she did that plus didn't do well on other work, and she didn't just give in and give the stupid teacher what they wanted.

I know most of us have experienced a teacher who did things wrong or was rude or otherwise forced us to do something we didn't like, most of us just sucked it up knowing it doesn't really affect our lives and we never have to think about that teacher again after we pass the class.

Really, if your options are "do a search and replace on your paper to pass" or "stick to my guns and have to repeat a class because the teacher and I have different opinions!" suck it up buttercup.

 

[HemiHauler]

The article says she failed a paper, and that the teacher offered to re-grade if she removed the offending language. Sounds completely plausible since the only way it would actually cause the girl to fail the class was if she was already doing horribly and this one paper was make or break for the whole course and she also chose not to rewrite it.

So no, she didn't fail because she used those words. She failed because she did that plus didn't do well on other work, and she didn't just give in and give the stupid teacher what they wanted.

I know most of us have experienced a teacher who did things wrong or was rude or otherwise forced us to do something we didn't like, most of us just sucked it up knowing it doesn't really affect our lives and we never have to think about that teacher again after we pass the class.

Really, if your options are "do a search and replace on your paper to pass" or "stick to my guns and have to repeat a class because the teacher and I have different opinions!" suck it up buttercup.

So let’s go to the New York Post/Murdoch properties and TikTok instead of the Dean.

Makes total sense.

She’s an attention whore who probably isn’t ready for the hard work of “Gender Studies” LOL.

 

[limblips]

Oh gosh.

That clears it right up!

Another highly useless response. You should write for FJB.

 

[HemiHauler]

Another highly useless response. You should write for FJB.

Almost as useless as your retarded OP!

 

[SamSpade]

So no, she didn't fail because she used those words. She failed because she did that plus didn't do well on other work,

Ok, so - looked up other articles on the same story and you are correct that nowhere does it say she failed the COURSE because of this. She did receive a ZERO which I have to say - I've NEVER received a zero especially on a paper that was recognized as "a solid proposal". This professor was going to give her zero credit, for an otherwise good paper because it had words she objected to.

So this teacher does appear to have a bug up her ass.

and she didn't just give in and give the stupid teacher what they wanted.

Well that kind of IS the point - bend over and let them screw you or fight back. And I wouldn't either. I had a supervisor who was this petty, and I stood up to him. They moved him. Eventually he was fired, but that was years down the road.

 

[somdwatch]

Oh gosh.

That clears it right up!

Nothing clears up the drivel you post here Hemorrhoid man.

 

[Clem72]

Well that kind of IS the point - bend over and let them screw you or fight back. And I wouldn't either. I had a supervisor who was this petty, and I stood up to him. They moved him. Eventually he was fired, but that was years down the road.

You're an engineering type, right? Of a similar age to me.

Did you not have college professors that told you "no calculators", and would give you a zero on a test if you used one? You might have great arguments that are factually correct, like "an architect/engineer/accountant/ANYONE THAT RELIES ON MATH will use a calculator in their work both to save time and to ensure accuracy" but the teacher doesn't care. You might further say "would you make a house framer nail boards by hand, or a farmer pull a plough themselves? Or would you let them use the tools of the trade even while they are learning that trade?"

Doesn't matter, you would get a zero. Teacher probably wouldn't even let you "resubmit" your work. College is a place to learn, and one of the things you learn is that sometimes it's easier just to do what your boss wants even if it doesn't make sense. You don't need to die on every hill.

 

[Clem72]

Well that kind of IS the point - bend over and let them screw you or fight back. And I wouldn't either. I had a supervisor who was this petty, and I stood up to him. They moved him. Eventually he was fired, but that was years down the road.

Good for you, do you want a cookie? Try stressing less about things, your heart will last a bit longer.

 

[SamSpade]

Good for you, do you want a cookie? Try stressing less about things, your heart will last a bit longer.

(shrug) Not stressing. Got no dog in this fight. Sometimes you stand up for yourself, and sometimes you don't.
When my wife wrote a paper about guns - and it disagreed with the professor's opinions - we fought it - logically, sensibly, without histrionics -

And won. And the professor agreed.

 

[Kyle]

(shrug) Not stressing. Got no dog in this fight. Sometimes you stand up for yourself, and sometimes you don't.
When my wife wrote a paper about guns - and it disagreed with the professor's opinions - we fought it - logically, sensibly, without histrionics -

And won. And the professor agreed.

Have you noticed how often others assume you get as emotionally invested in things as they do?



i’m betting this goes hand-in-hand with why so few have a sense of humor anymore.

 

[SamSpade]

Did you not have college professors that told you "no calculators", and would give you a zero on a test if you used one?

Yes, and that was made abundantly clear at the beginning of the semester. That was largely in part that back then as is now - whole problems could be stored on a good programmable calculator. It wasn't a hedge against being able to quickly calculate - it was meant to stop cheating. But most of the time, calculators WERE permitted - you just had to reboot them, to destroy any hidden work.

You were also told to "show your work". Always told well in advance of the exam.

But it was also true that higher level courses, they told you you could use your notes - your books - and so on. Because if you were in, say, a circuit design course or an analysis exam consisting entirely of mathematical proofs - your book probably wasn't going to help you.

(I GET your point, but I disagree. The professor was injecting her own ideas on a paper, something they're not supposed to do.)

Had I written a proposal for cold fusion relying on Pons and Fleischmann, my instructor would have told me to choose a better topic - not get a zero.

Had I written an ESSAY for course work - and I used pejorative words describing say, Muslims - I would probably have a few points taken or a note in the margin saying "raghead" is insulting.

I wouldn't have recieved a ZERO.

There's nothing scientifically wrong with "biological woman". I think this student's appeal would succeed anywhere else except Berkeley.

 

[SamSpade]

Have you noticed how often others assume you get as emotionally invested in things as they do?

(shrug) - I'm at work. I'm multitasking. I can leave this discussion whenever I want, and I probably will.

 

[Clem72]

(shrug) Not stressing. Got no dog in this fight. Sometimes you stand up for yourself, and sometimes you don't.
When my wife wrote a paper about guns - and it disagreed with the professor's opinions - we fought it - logically, sensibly, without histrionics -

And won. And the professor agreed.

But did you "win"? Do you think the professor changed their opinions and started teaching the next class differently. Or was it more likely that like I was saying above, they decided it wasn't worth fighting that battle. The class was probably not about gun rights (or was it?) and the paper probably demonstrated everything required of the course (likely the ability to research and support an argument in a logical manner) regardless of whether or not the professor agreed with your conclusions.

 

[SamSpade]

Have you noticed how often others assume you get as emotionally invested in things as they do?



i’m betting this goes hand-in-hand with why so few have a sense of humor anymore.

Also I've been - teased - for my laid back behavior. A girl I once knew said she could come to work naked and I'd probably just smile and shrug.
Another person said I was so mellow that I used valium as an *upper*.

 

[Clem72]

Yes, and that was made abundantly clear at the beginning of the semester. That was largely in part that back then as is now - whole problems could be stored on a good programmable calculator.

Okay, I might be a bit older than you. We didn't have the big programmable calculators back then, we did have some "scientific" calculators but no graphing ones. We still had slide rules when I was in gradeschool.

When I was in college it wasn't about "cheating" (as in storing a bunch of answers in your programmable calculator) rather it was that you needed to do it manually because you may not have a calculator available and may still have to be able to perform the function. Nevermind that my old work desk literally had 4 calculators at all times (2 computers, 1 phone, and 1 actual calculator).

 

[SamSpade]

But did you "win"? Do you think the professor changed their opinions and started teaching the next class differently. Or was it more likely that like I was saying above, they decided it wasn't worth fighting that battle. The class was probably not about gun rights (or was it?) and the paper probably demonstrated everything required of the course (likely the ability to research and support an argument in a logical manner) regardless of whether or not the professor agreed with your conclusions.

You're now just arguing because you want to. The professor agreed that the research was well done, and opinions weren't relevant in grading.

We weren't making converts - we just wanted fairnenss. And they agreed. And the paper WAS pertinent to the subject matter.