Calling it now

[SamSpade]

never seen anyone high on pot angry

But very very often - extremely paranoid. Fearful of your OWN friends.

And judgment is just as bad as drunk - falling down and even UP - stairs. Forgetting to do simple basic things - like putting your dick back in your pants after peeing.

It's not dangerouns most of the time, but it's not a good idea to be out in public with seriously impaired judgment.

 

[vraiblonde]

Hardly, I have know a neighbor or family friend over 20 yrs .... one installs commercial security systems the other a 25 yr federal employee

Productive members of society .... one has been a pot smoker since the 1970's

Maybe in your world compared to your reality these people are healthy and stable, but the cold hard fact is that healthy stable people aren't drug addicts. Also I can't even imagine letting some druggie install security systems. Gee, what could go wrong?

 

[Bann]

It shouldn't be okay to smoke in public, at least not any moreso than cigarettes. But just like some bars never enforced the no smoking rules, I assume some venues will similarly ignore pot smoking. Is pot even legal in Virginia Beach, I thought they didn't pass it? If not, I am pretty sure security didn't check peoples medical marijuana cards at the entrance. You can probably assume this was similar to going to rave and asking "why is everyone sweating and dancing in slow motion and drinking so much water?".

No idea on the laws. I just figured I would remember it in the future because I cannot stand the smell - and I had a headache from it. I wasn't drinking, either so that wasn't it.

 

[Bann]

Federal employees get drug tested randomly, and it is still against the Fed law to smoke pot. A Fed Employee smoking pot for 40 years is lucky.

 

[vraiblonde]

Federal employees get drug tested randomly, and it is still against the Fed law to smoke pot. A Fed Employee smoking pot for 40 years is lucky.

Oh but "medical marijuana"! Can't fire dopers because they're protected under the ADA.



The security systems guy is more ... alarming (ha ). Some druggie who almost certainly has druggie pals in charge of your security system...BRILLIANT!!

 

[Clem72]

Federal employees get drug tested randomly, and it is still against the Fed law to smoke pot. A Fed Employee smoking pot for 40 years is lucky.

Actually the overwhelming majority of them do not. You can even hold a security clearance (at least Secret, not sure about TS) without the requirement to drug test as it's a requirement of the billet and not the clearance itself.

 

[Clem72]

Maybe in your world compared to your reality these people are healthy and stable, but the cold hard fact is that healthy stable people aren't drug addicts. Also I can't even imagine letting some druggie install security systems. Gee, what could go wrong?

I had a coworker who was still performing admirably at work (much better than any of our late millennial / gen z employees) while smoking pot every night and slowly dying of cancer (the former started after the latter).

 

[Kinnakeet]

Pot is just another crutch for idiots. Like Valium or other drugs that numb the mind.
If the CBD helps with joint pain, fine, but smoking pot to get high is like getting drunk instead of enjoying the taste of the drink.

The drinks have taste..who knew..

 

[Kinnakeet]

When I drove - under the influence - I thought I was being VERY CAREFUL. Then I would do something stupid - like overshoot a turn and end up on the sidewalk - then try to compensate - by driving BACKWARD on the sidewalk. Try to pass someone - on the inner shoulder, because I didn't know the difference.

Stoned was different. I did things slowly - like pull into traffic - because that car was going SO SLOWLY - but somehow they'd have to slam on the brakes while I was slowly moving into traffic. A lot like an old man who just doesn't drive well.

I don't find that reduced awareness and zero reflexes as being better than reckless regard for life. It's just different, not better.

Rookie

 

[Kinnakeet]

Federal employees get drug tested randomly, and it is still against the Fed law to smoke pot. A Fed Employee smoking pot for 40 years is lucky.

Very lucky and I doubt he/she has a secret clearence

 

[gemma_rae]

Very Interesting.

When I'm sober most people assume I'm high, and when I'm high most people assume I'm sober.
It all boils down to what's your tolerance and do you act like an a-hole.

I tend to use sobriety as a license to act like a B*****, and being high as a reason for using discretion and acting maturely.

I don't imbibe anything if I know I'll be driving, and nothing before 5pm.

 

[Merlin99]

Pot heads never really bothered me, at least not as much as drunks. If prohibition for the public good (not the person's health) is the real issue, then cigarettes and alcohol should also be illegal. But they aren't, so you might as well let the pot heads have their day too and just sin tax the hell out of it like cigarettes.

The fact of the matter is they (the pot heads, not the random occasional user) are going to do it anyway, we have decades of evidence of this, but making it illegal just fills our jails with otherwise nonviolent people and forces them into "the system" (where felons can't get good jobs and end up resorting to crime) and it promotes actual bad guys (drug dealers) to procure the stuff and do their posturing and turf wars and whatever other BS that is an issue.

So the end result of legalization "should be" more coins in the coffers, a lot less expense in housing "criminals", less expense in welfare for ex-cons who can't get a job, and a need for less violent drug dealers. But it remains to be seen if the "should be" turns out to be true.

Problem with that theory is that it's wrong. any existing mental issues are exaggerated. People with anger issues now have serious anger issues, I'm watching it happen right now with the kids of a couple of families I know. I've known these kids their entire lives and watched the descent. The blood money coming in isn't worth the societal destruction happening due to it. The thought that because we did this we'll have less violent drug dealers around is ludicrous, they've just switched products.

 

[Clem72]

Problem with that theory is that it's wrong. any existing mental issues are exaggerated. People with anger issues now have serious anger issues, I'm watching it happen right now with the kids of a couple of families I know. I've known these kids their entire lives and watched the descent. The blood money coming in isn't worth the societal destruction happening due to it. The thought that because we did this we'll have less violent drug dealers around is ludicrous, they've just switched products.

It's not wrong, you are talking about a different issue than I am. I'm not talking about people with mental issues or those committing crimes in anger or paranoia (exacerbated by smoking pot or otherwise), I am talking about the large number of people we had incarcerated on basic possession charges and nothing else, which were felonies in many states (like NY for many many years).

I grew up in California, I knew more pot heads then I did heavy drinkers. The overwhelming majority were perfectly normal, other than some having a "stoner" personality. They were certainly more functional than the alcoholics I knew. If your friend's kids are having anger issues the source may lie elsewhere, it's not like happy functional families typically have kiddos running off to drugs to begin with and if they are adults, like most adults who turn to drugs, they are probably doing so to escape their issues. Solid high functioning happy adults don't often experiment with recreational drugs either.

 

[Kyle]

Solid high functioning happy adults don't often experiment with recreational drugs either.

Christ almighty you finally said something that can be agreed upon.

 

[Clem72]

Christ almighty you finally said something that can be agreed upon.

Do you comment on every one of my posts? You must be my biggest fan.

 

[Kyle]

Do you comment on every one of my posts? You must be my biggest fan.

You overestimate.

Not every one of your posts.

Just the exceptionally stupid things you post, or in this particular case, an example of the infinite monkey theorem.

 

[vraiblonde]

like most adults who turn to drugs, they are probably doing so to escape their issues. Solid high functioning happy adults don't often experiment with recreational drugs either.

Exactly. Every adult drunk or druggie I've ever known has other things going on, which is likely why they feel the need to self-medicate. Which of course just makes things worse but you can't convince addicts of that.

 

[GURPS]

Solid high functioning happy adults don't often experiment with recreational drugs either.

ah you have never had a few drinks, been drunk ?

 

[Clem72]

ah you have never had a few drinks, been drunk ?

Yep, I drank socially when invited to functions but never cared for it. Only needed one hangover to learn not to have more than a couple. Don't think I have ever purchased alcohol outside of a social setting except as a gift for someone else.