Canceling Rogan
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That's not exactly how I pictured her.
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Kanye West is a multiple Grammy winner, so that should tell you all you need to know about the Grammy Awards.
So did Bob Dylan
Good writer, rough voice.
A friend who had a band when I was in high school would have me sing one song with them once in a while when they played a gig.
He'd play "All along the Watchtower" Hendrix style, and I would add the nasally Dylan vocal.
Age has put the kabosh on that, don't have the vocal range I once did.
BOP
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Dylan never did have the range. Don't get me wrong, I've always been a big Dylan fan. I'm not going to pretend he could sing. One of the most influencial "voices" of the 20th century, not just in terms of the impact he had on society and other musicians, but the impact that members of society and those other musicians had on our world view.
Having said all that, I'm gonna borrow from former Jefferson Airplane voice, Grace Slick, when she said, if you're touring and you're over 50, please stop; you look ridiculous.
There are rare, rare exceptions, such as Rod Stewart. The problem is other people who should heed Ms. Slick's advice, think that if Sir Rod still has it, so do they. No; no they don't.
Willie Nelson is one of the most extreme examples. Love you, Willie; shut the phuck up. Strum your guitar, don't sing. Do. not. sing.
BOP
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You might be right. I bought the "Only One Night" DVD, and that concert was in 2005, so I haven't really seen him for any performance between then and now.
I used to listen to Neil Diamond when I was in the Navy, but haven't listened in years (other than "Hot August Night").
The World’s Largest Broadcaster’s Fact-Check Of Joe Rogan Podcast Goes Quite Wrong
The world’s largest news broadcaster has posted an erroneous and misleading “fact check” of Joe Rogan’s Spotify podcast, a show that has become a lightning rod for media criticism after featuring wide-ranging conversations with people across the political spectrum, including some who hold minority views about COVID-19. A fact-check from the BBC’s “Reality Check team” purports to refute four claims made on “The Joe Rogan Experience” — but Rogan did not make all of the claims examined, and the BBC confirms a statement made by a guest on the show, but persists in calling it “misleading.”
Fact-check 1: Are young people more likely to get myocarditis from the vaccine or COVID-19?
Fact-check 2: People who are vaccinated after recovering from COVID-19 are at greater risk of developing side effects
The BBC notes, “One of Mr Rogan’s most controversial guests has been the virologist Robert Malone,” adding that Malone appeared on Rogan’s show soon after being banned from Twitter in December.
“Among the misleading claims made in this podcast episode was one suggesting people who are vaccinated after having Covid-19 are at greater risk of adverse side effects,” the BBC fact-check said.
The BBC then verifies the accuracy of that claim. “In one UK study, researchers found that vaccine after effects were more common in those who already had Covid,” the BBC notes, although it says the study “only looked at mild after effects, such as fatigue, chills and headaches.” The BBC offers no additional refutation.
Numerous studies agree with Malone’s reported claim:
The world’s largest news broadcaster has posted an erroneous and misleading “fact check” of Joe Rogan’s Spotify podcast, a show that has become a lightning rod for media criticism after featuring wide-ranging conversations with people across the political spectrum, including some who hold minority views about COVID-19. A fact-check from the BBC’s “Reality Check team” purports to refute four claims made on “The Joe Rogan Experience” — but Rogan did not make all of the claims examined, and the BBC confirms a statement made by a guest on the show, but persists in calling it “misleading.”
Fact-check 1: Are young people more likely to get myocarditis from the vaccine or COVID-19?
Fact-check 2: People who are vaccinated after recovering from COVID-19 are at greater risk of developing side effects
The BBC notes, “One of Mr Rogan’s most controversial guests has been the virologist Robert Malone,” adding that Malone appeared on Rogan’s show soon after being banned from Twitter in December.
“Among the misleading claims made in this podcast episode was one suggesting people who are vaccinated after having Covid-19 are at greater risk of adverse side effects,” the BBC fact-check said.
The BBC then verifies the accuracy of that claim. “In one UK study, researchers found that vaccine after effects were more common in those who already had Covid,” the BBC notes, although it says the study “only looked at mild after effects, such as fatigue, chills and headaches.” The BBC offers no additional refutation.
Numerous studies agree with Malone’s reported claim:
Ryan, Kim, & Robby: Jen Psaki UNCONSTITUTIONALLY pressures Spotify to censor Joe Rogan, misinfo
Ryan Grim, Kim Iversen, and Robby Soave make the case that the Biden administration's public calls on Spotify to censor information is a violation of the First Amendment. About Rising: Rising is a weekday morning show with bipartisan hosts that breaks the mold of morning TV by taking viewers inside the halls of Washington power like never before. The show leans into the day's political cycle with cutting edge analysis from DC insiders who can predict what is going to happen. It also sets the day's political agenda by breaking exclusive news with a team of scoop-driven reporters and demanding answers during interviews with the country's most important political newsmakers. Follow Rising on social media: Website: Hill.TV Facebook: facebook.com/HillTVLive/ Instagram: @HillTVLive Twitter: @HillTVLive
Ryan Grim, Kim Iversen, and Robby Soave make the case that the Biden administration's public calls on Spotify to censor information is a violation of the First Amendment. About Rising: Rising is a weekday morning show with bipartisan hosts that breaks the mold of morning TV by taking viewers inside the halls of Washington power like never before. The show leans into the day's political cycle with cutting edge analysis from DC insiders who can predict what is going to happen. It also sets the day's political agenda by breaking exclusive news with a team of scoop-driven reporters and demanding answers during interviews with the country's most important political newsmakers. Follow Rising on social media: Website: Hill.TV Facebook: facebook.com/HillTVLive/ Instagram: @HillTVLive Twitter: @HillTVLive
BOP
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I was simply amazed at the very idea that these morons would "fact-check" the literal developer of mRNA. I was like, "wait, what?" I mean, I'd kind of gotten used to the left and their compilations of lies, even in the face of clear and compelling evidence, but this is just like...what do I even compare it to?
"The sun rises in the east and sets in the west. This is true everywhere in the world."
"No it doesn't, and now I'm triggered, and I'm going to get you cancelled."
Health experts respond to Neil Young stance on GMOs after anti-science hit on Joe Rogan
Bloomberg Opinion columnist and economist Tyler Cowen, who is among those who have defended GMO foods as being perfectly safe, concluded the singer's scientific record is "far from pristine."
"Yet Young’s own record in this area is far from pristine," Cowen wrote Tuesday. "For years, he has spread scientific misinformation about GMO foods."
The Daily Beast's Louis Anslow recently highlighted Young's history on GMOs in a piece titled, "Neil Young's Record of Spreading Scientific Misinformation." Like Cowen, Anslow argues Young has contributed to the "anti-vaxx narrative."
Cowen goes so far as to suggest Young's skeptical views on GMOs may have even led to today's distrust in the COVID vaccines.
Young was so opposed to GMOs that he asserted on "The Late Show with Stephen Colbert" that they can cause "terrible diseases."
Bloomberg Opinion columnist and economist Tyler Cowen, who is among those who have defended GMO foods as being perfectly safe, concluded the singer's scientific record is "far from pristine."
"Yet Young’s own record in this area is far from pristine," Cowen wrote Tuesday. "For years, he has spread scientific misinformation about GMO foods."
The Daily Beast's Louis Anslow recently highlighted Young's history on GMOs in a piece titled, "Neil Young's Record of Spreading Scientific Misinformation." Like Cowen, Anslow argues Young has contributed to the "anti-vaxx narrative."
Cowen goes so far as to suggest Young's skeptical views on GMOs may have even led to today's distrust in the COVID vaccines.
Young was so opposed to GMOs that he asserted on "The Late Show with Stephen Colbert" that they can cause "terrible diseases."
'Keep on rocking in the FREE world, Neil'! 'Cancelled' Mumford & Sons star Winston Marshall blasts millionaire artists risking 'Soviet-style censorship' in the West by removing music from Spotify in stand on Joe Rogan
In a 1,444 word Substack essay, the folk star takes aim at a number of high profile figures 'standing passionately against speech', including the singers quitting Spotify and even the Duke and Duchess of Sussex.
He wrote: 'Last week, Canadian-American rock god Neil Young made a clarion call against free speech.
'Displeased by The Joe Rogan Experience's Covidian contents, Young demanded that Spotify remove Rogan's podcast—or remove him.
'Days later, Young's music was off the platform, though you can still stream his songs on Apple (ignore their forced Uyghur labor in Xinjiang) and on Amazon (but don't read about the company's infamous working conditions in James Bloodworth's book 'Hired.')
'Keep on rocking in the free world, Neil.
'Of course, Spotify is a private company; they're under no obligation to platform anybody.
'So while this campaign doesn't breach Rogan's First Amendment rights, it is a clear stand against the cultural norm of free speech.
'And those standing passionately against speech—a growing list that includes Joni Mitchell, Harry and Meghan, the comedian Stewart Lee, the singer India Arie, and Young's old bandmates, Crosby, Stills and Nash—are all apparently liberals. Strange, that.'
In a 1,444 word Substack essay, the folk star takes aim at a number of high profile figures 'standing passionately against speech', including the singers quitting Spotify and even the Duke and Duchess of Sussex.
He wrote: 'Last week, Canadian-American rock god Neil Young made a clarion call against free speech.
'Displeased by The Joe Rogan Experience's Covidian contents, Young demanded that Spotify remove Rogan's podcast—or remove him.
'Days later, Young's music was off the platform, though you can still stream his songs on Apple (ignore their forced Uyghur labor in Xinjiang) and on Amazon (but don't read about the company's infamous working conditions in James Bloodworth's book 'Hired.')
'Keep on rocking in the free world, Neil.
'Of course, Spotify is a private company; they're under no obligation to platform anybody.
'So while this campaign doesn't breach Rogan's First Amendment rights, it is a clear stand against the cultural norm of free speech.
'And those standing passionately against speech—a growing list that includes Joni Mitchell, Harry and Meghan, the comedian Stewart Lee, the singer India Arie, and Young's old bandmates, Crosby, Stills and Nash—are all apparently liberals. Strange, that.'
More Artists Leave Spotify! Also Breaking: No One Cares.
And then of course, also straight from the Please Don’t Forget Me Department, there is the small matter of Susan Sarandon’s inexcusable, execrable comments about the funeral services for the members of New York’s Finest.
Q: What do Crosby Stills & Nash, Neil Young, Joni Mitchell, and Susan Sarandon all have in common?
A: They were all very much loved by my parents. Who are dead. And I’m 55, so that should give you some idea of the timeline we are talking about here.
These people pretty much stopped being relevant some time during the second Reagan administration. And even that may be a bit charitable. But as anyone who has made a pile of money can tell you, job one is to accumulate a bigger pile of money. And of course, a free thinker like Joe Rogan is the perfect vehicle for these music and movie has-beens to remind us that they are supposed to be stars. And now that their dormant activist genes have been re-energized, they are ready to be stars again. As along as you don’t remind them that they used to consider themselves free thinkers. Or that they made a gay slur. Or wore blackface.
Who knows, maybe they can team up for the “Who Are We Again?” Summer Tour.
And then of course, also straight from the Please Don’t Forget Me Department, there is the small matter of Susan Sarandon’s inexcusable, execrable comments about the funeral services for the members of New York’s Finest.
Q: What do Crosby Stills & Nash, Neil Young, Joni Mitchell, and Susan Sarandon all have in common?
A: They were all very much loved by my parents. Who are dead. And I’m 55, so that should give you some idea of the timeline we are talking about here.
These people pretty much stopped being relevant some time during the second Reagan administration. And even that may be a bit charitable. But as anyone who has made a pile of money can tell you, job one is to accumulate a bigger pile of money. And of course, a free thinker like Joe Rogan is the perfect vehicle for these music and movie has-beens to remind us that they are supposed to be stars. And now that their dormant activist genes have been re-energized, they are ready to be stars again. As along as you don’t remind them that they used to consider themselves free thinkers. Or that they made a gay slur. Or wore blackface.
Who knows, maybe they can team up for the “Who Are We Again?” Summer Tour.
Horror-Icon Elvira Joins Call To Remove Joe Rogan From Spotify, Dismisses Fans Who Disagree With Her As “Trash”
Unsurprisingly, Peterson’s call to arms was met with a massive amount of pushback from her fans, many of whom found themselves stunned at the fact that such a purveyor of the macabre and sexy would call for censorship of another creator.
In explanation of her position to one such fan (whose initial tweet has since been deleted), Peterson asserted, “The Joe Rogan podcast interviews the 5% of ‘scientists’ who do not believe in vaccines or masks. This is not about censorship. This is about saving lives. Please read the article and educate yourself. XX.”
(It should be noted that it’s not clear what specific piece of writing Peterson was referring to when telling the fan to “read the article,” as the only link she provided was to the aforementioned petition, which itself only features a brief description of the situation.)
Amidst further pushback from her fans, Peterson’s rhetoric then took an even more insulting turn, as the B-movie connoisseur proceeded to declare in a follow-up to her original tweet, “Regarding ‘fans’ (haha) who are leaving me because they prefer ‘disinformation’ over the truth, all I can say is, it’s time to clean house and separate the class from the trash! Buh-byeeee!”
Unsurprisingly, Peterson’s call to arms was met with a massive amount of pushback from her fans, many of whom found themselves stunned at the fact that such a purveyor of the macabre and sexy would call for censorship of another creator.
In explanation of her position to one such fan (whose initial tweet has since been deleted), Peterson asserted, “The Joe Rogan podcast interviews the 5% of ‘scientists’ who do not believe in vaccines or masks. This is not about censorship. This is about saving lives. Please read the article and educate yourself. XX.”
(It should be noted that it’s not clear what specific piece of writing Peterson was referring to when telling the fan to “read the article,” as the only link she provided was to the aforementioned petition, which itself only features a brief description of the situation.)
Amidst further pushback from her fans, Peterson’s rhetoric then took an even more insulting turn, as the B-movie connoisseur proceeded to declare in a follow-up to her original tweet, “Regarding ‘fans’ (haha) who are leaving me because they prefer ‘disinformation’ over the truth, all I can say is, it’s time to clean house and separate the class from the trash! Buh-byeeee!”
Clem72
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Grammys have never been about who sings the best, like with the Oscar's it's a popularity contest and a self-congratulatory circlejerk. Were you edgy and made fun of an unpopular president, you get a grammy. Did you refuse to let your music be played at a right-wing rally? You get a grammy.
BOP
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Except, as numerous people have pointed out, when members of the United States Government's Executive Branch, up to and including the President* requests on more than one occasion that Spotify and other members of "Big Tech" censor unfavorable content, then that private company is acting as an agent of the Federal Government.
I'm no lawyer, but I'll be a 1st year law student could successfully argue that one. Well, in a court not packed with lib-prog judges, anyway.
Now, you can argue semantics; that "this campaign" includes musicians and whatever Susan Sarandon is, however, I smell a rat.