Cant tell if serious.......

[glhs837]

So perusing local news, I come across this gem........

https://smnewsnet.com/archives/4485...-lexington-park-man-on-multiple-drug-charges/

Deputies from the St. Mary’s County Sheriff’s Office Vice Narcotics Division Arrest Lexington Park Man on Multiple Drug Charges


Now, it's pretty straightforward, dumbass sells drugs, gets popped. But the real meat, as usual, is in the comments, where I found this gem. You all tell me, is this really an opinion, or sarcasm? I just cant decide....

I grew up him and have known him my entire life. This is an example of an addiction. Selling drugs is just as much an addiction as using drugs. But one problem is that there are no rehabs for drug dealers. Just imagine you’re a high school teenager in the late 80s early 90s during the big crack cocaine era making over $1000 a day, you’re gonna get addicted to the money. If you’re making that much money at such a young age then that’s what your mind is gonna tell you that you need to continue doing to keep the money coming cause your mind is not fully developed at your early teen years. This is why we need rehabs for drug dealers to show them another way of life.

 

[officeguy]

All the drug dealers who 'make $1000 a day' should be retired to their palacial estate in the caribbean by now. The reality is drug dealing is a low margin business and after supply, bail, legal fees most of the dealers are just scraping by at minimum wage levels.

 

[Goldenhawk]

You all tell me, is this really an opinion, or sarcasm? I just cant decide....

I think it's accurate. Maybe not the dollar amount, but the concept of getting hooked on "easy money", sure.

 

[RoseRed]

All the drug dealers who 'make $1000 a day' should be retired to their palacial estate in the caribbean by now. The reality is drug dealing is a low margin business and after supply, bail, legal fees most of the dealers are just scraping by at minimum wage levels.

Wait! They don't make $15 per hour?

 

[TCROW]

All the drug dealers who 'make $1000 a day' should be retired to their palacial estate in the caribbean by now. The reality is drug dealing is a low margin business and after supply, bail, legal fees most of the dealers are just scraping by at minimum wage levels.

It’s a pyramid scheme. The higher up in the pyramid you are, the more cheddar you pocket.

 

[Kinnakeet]

I think it's accurate. Maybe not the dollar amount, but the concept of getting hooked on "easy money", sure.[/QU
Didnt Glenn Fry write a song about this..

 

[glhs837]

I think it's accurate. Maybe not the dollar amount, but the concept of getting hooked on "easy money", sure.[/QU
Didnt Glenn Fry write a song about this..

"It's the lure of easy money, it's got a very strong appeal" also a continuing theme in every epsiode of "Locked Up Abroad"

 

[MiddleGround]

Never been a believer in the victim mentality that drug addiction is a disease. IT IS A CHOICE! And, everything after it can be attributed to that choice.

If you say drug addiction is a disease then you must also believe that serial rapists and killers have a "disease" and should be treated with kid gloves too.

 

[BernieP]

Never been a believer in the victim mentality that drug addiction is a disease. IT IS A CHOICE! And, everything after it can be attributed to that choice.

If you say drug addiction is a disease then you must also believe that serial rapists and killers have a "disease" and should be treated with kid gloves too.

Drug addiction is a disease, as is alchohism. They are closely related and classified as mental health issues. You also have to differentiate between physical and psycological addiction.
Opiods are habit forming (physical addiction) which is why the push to cut or eliminate the use of them by doctors.. What we refer to as addicts have a mental illness and drugs are their mechanism of coping (self medication).
That does not condone their use, but these are people, like alcholics, who require PROPER mental health care. Good luck in gettng that as malpractice insurance rates skyrocket, medical professionals don't want to risk dealing with unstable people.

Generally speoking most criminals are mentally ill, they know the difference between right and wrong and when they are arrested they are held accountable for their crimes.
People who are addicted or alchoholic are generally held accountable for their crimes as well, the change now is not to hold them criminally liable for the addiction, but other crimes are not excused.
In other words, if the crime is possesion for use, they legal remedy now seems to be an option to treatment instead of jail.

Dealers claiming an addiction to cash should be flogged, it's similar to the people who buy the "service" vests for their pets so they can take them on the plane for free.
It unfairly calls into question trained service animals and the people who really need them.

 

[MiddleGround]

Drug addiction is a disease, as is alchohism.

I understand your stance on this but, I strongly disagree.

Drug and alcohol addiction are both totally preventable and are both a CHOICE by the addict. I have yet to hear a story regarding either that would make me think the addiction was not a direct result of the choices made by the addict. Even those who became addicted after a surgery to an opioid. ALL of the stories I have heard went this way....

"I was prescribed 3 tablets a day for pain but, it just wasn't cutting it so, I DECIDED to start taking 5. Then, it became 8 a day. And so on..."

And, unless it is fetal alcohol addiction, then alcoholism is a CHOICE as well. No one forces the booze into you

 

[BernieP]

So perusing local news, I come across this gem........

https://smnewsnet.com/archives/4485...-lexington-park-man-on-multiple-drug-charges/

Deputies from the St. Mary’s County Sheriff’s Office Vice Narcotics Division Arrest Lexington Park Man on Multiple Drug Charges


Now, it's pretty straightforward, dumbass sells drugs, gets popped. But the real meat, as usual, is in the comments, where I found this gem. You all tell me, is this really an opinion, or sarcasm? I just cant decide....

I'm going to vote for tongue and cheek. All of them.

 

[BernieP]

I understand your stance on this but, I strongly disagree.

Drug and alcohol addiction are both totally preventable and are both a CHOICE by the addict. I have yet to hear a story regarding either that would make me think the addiction was not a direct result of the choices made by the addict. Even those who became addicted after a surgery to an opioid. ALL of the stories I have heard went this way....

"I was prescribed 3 tablets a day for pain but, it just wasn't cutting it so, I DECIDED to start taking 5. Then, it became 8 a day. And so on..."

And, unless it is fetal alcohol addiction, then alcoholism is a CHOICE as well. No one forces the booze into you

thanks for your inspired ignorance. It's people look you that help keep the problem alive.

 

[MiddleGround]

thanks for your inspired ignorance. It's people look you that help keep the problem alive.

So it is me, the NON-addict, that is keeping the problem alive huh? Sorry but, it is people like you that pamper and coddle these people that perpetuate the problem.

 

[Goldenhawk]

So it is me, the NON-addict, that is keeping the problem alive huh? Sorry but, it is people like you that pamper and coddle these people that perpetuate the problem.

How about let's keep the rhetoric calm, so we can have a useful discussion?

MiddleGround, I have the privilege of intimately knowing a couple who runs one of the local Celebrate Recovery groups. That group meets weekly and is regularly attended by people of all stripes who are working against addictive behaviors of all kinds, ranging from anger management to sexual behaviors to hard drugs. This couple successfully escaped from hard drug addiction, and their testimony is compelling.

I will tell you, from personally knowing many of them, that your view is overly simplistic and decidedly unhelpful to people escaping the situation. These individuals are struggling in ways you cannot comprehend, and are 100% determined to escape, yet fight against frequent relapses and strongly-entrenched habit patterns that take years of daily choices to overcome. There's no coddling involved - yet they NEED a different kind of attention than you suggest.

Were/are choices involved in the addiction? Certainly, always. However, as Bernie pointed out, once those initial choices have led to addiction, there is not such freedom of choice.

May you be blessed with never discovering this for yourself.

 

[Merlin99]

How about let's keep the rhetoric calm, so we can have a useful discussion?

MiddleGround, I have the privilege of intimately knowing a couple who runs one of the local Celebrate Recovery groups. That group meets weekly and is regularly attended by people of all stripes who are working against addictive behaviors of all kinds, ranging from anger management to sexual behaviors to hard drugs. This couple successfully escaped from hard drug addiction, and their testimony is compelling.

I will tell you, from personally knowing many of them, that your view is overly simplistic and decidedly unhelpful to people escaping the situation. These individuals are struggling in ways you cannot comprehend, and are 100% determined to escape, yet fight against frequent relapses and strongly-entrenched habit patterns that take years of daily choices to overcome. There's no coddling involved - yet they NEED a different kind of attention than you suggest.

Were/are choices involved in the addiction? Certainly, always. However, as Bernie pointed out, once those initial choices have led to addiction, there is not such freedom of choice.

May you be blessed with never discovering this for yourself.

I smoked between 1-3 packs of cigarettes a day for thirty years, quitting was a spur of the moment decision 10 years ago. There's always a choice

 

[TCROW]

So it is me, the NON-addict, that is keeping the problem alive huh? Sorry but, it is people like you that pamper and coddle these people that perpetuate the problem.

What a strange hill upon which to plant your flag and die. We know an awful lot about addiction and disease in 2019. There's no excuse for ignorance like this unless it's willful and intentional. No one here can help you with that.

 

[MiddleGround]

How about let's keep the rhetoric calm, so we can have a useful discussion?

MiddleGround, I have the privilege of intimately knowing a couple who runs one of the local Celebrate Recovery groups. That group meets weekly and is regularly attended by people of all stripes who are working against addictive behaviors of all kinds, ranging from anger management to sexual behaviors to hard drugs. This couple successfully escaped from hard drug addiction, and their testimony is compelling.

I will tell you, from personally knowing many of them, that your view is overly simplistic and decidedly unhelpful to people escaping the situation. These individuals are struggling in ways you cannot comprehend, and are 100% determined to escape, yet fight against frequent relapses and strongly-entrenched habit patterns that take years of daily choices to overcome. There's no coddling involved - yet they NEED a different kind of attention than you suggest.

Were/are choices involved in the addiction? Certainly, always. However, as Bernie pointed out, once those initial choices have led to addiction, there is not such freedom of choice.

May you be blessed with never discovering this for yourself.

I applaud these people for seeking the help they need. This, however.. is not my point. My point (to Bernie) was that the addiction was a choice. A lot of people nowaday want to just overlook that fact and act like the person addicted was akin to a cancer patient where one day they just woke up and have it! That is NOT the case. A choice led to the problem. Period.

I smoked between 1-3 packs of cigarettes a day for thirty years, quitting was a spur of the moment decision 10 years ago. There's always a choice

100% agreed!

What a strange hill upon which to plant your flag and die. We know an awful lot about addiction and disease in 2019. There's no excuse for ignorance like this unless it's willful and intentional. No one here can help you with that.

Spoken like someone who typically blames everyone and everything else but themselves for their problems.

 

[frequentflier]

I know some people that did not start out with prescribed pain pills from a doctor. The first time they willingly put a needle in their arm, the pipe to their mouth or stuff up their nose, they made the choice and knew the possible consequences. Two friends of mine have buried their adult children in the past couple of years; one found her son in his bedroom on Mother's Day.

Another friend flew in last night to bury her daughter in the next few days. She has been in rehab in another state for close to a year. Everyone thought she was doing well. Seems she od'd last week and was revived. Tuesday night she wasn't so lucky.

These drugs, they get a hold of some people and some just cannot ever get away from them no matter how hard they try. I don't know what the answer is but my heart breaks for these families.

 

[TCROW]

I applaud these people for seeking the help they need. This, however.. is not my point. My point (to Bernie) was that the addiction was a choice. A lot of people nowaday want to just overlook that fact and act like the person addicted was akin to a cancer patient where one day they just woke up and have it! That is NOT the case. A choice led to the problem. Period.



100% agreed!



Spoken like someone who typically blames everyone and everything else but themselves for their problems.

Got any room up on that high horse?

 

[MiddleGround]

Got any room up on that high horse?

What you call "high horse" thinking, I call living in reality.

Do I feel bad for people who are addicted? Yes... those who became addicted through legitimate administration of prescription meds. Crack smokers, Coke users, Herion shooters, Meth heads, those who decided to self medicate beyond what was prescribed,etc. Not.. one... bit!

Its time to treat these people like adults!