CDC: 1 in 3 adults is obese
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SoMD_Fun_Guy
Do you like apples?
I don't agree with that pic. I really don't think that the toothpick girls of today are hotter than the sex symbols of the past. Personally, I don't want to be dating a skeleton.
libertytyranny
Dream Stealer
Most hetero men don't. The nasty skinny ideal was designed and propogated by those that control the fashion industry..gay men. They like the look of women with the body of young man and despise natural womanly curves. Hence, that's what touted as the ideal..however it has been my absolute experience that men prefer womanly and curvy over stick. Young girls just haven't figured that out just yet, that's why they aspire to it.
You don't, but Johnny Depp - heartthrob of the female masses - loves painfully emaciated women. That's all you ever see him with. And I think I can speak for most of us ladies when I say that Johnny's idea of beauty means more than yours.
Stick women are natural clothes hangers, with no unsightly bumps to ruin the line of their outfit.
JFK, Jr was certainly not gay and his wife was one of the skinniest women ever. He also dated the extremely skinny Sarah Jessica Parker, and the only slightly less consumptive Daryl Hannah. Orlando Bloom and Keira Knightly. Harrison Ford and Ally McBeal. Lots of famous hetero men love them some emaciated women.
Hank
my war
You don't, but Johnny Depp - heartthrob of the female masses - loves painfully emaciated women. That's all you ever see him with. And I think I can speak for most of us ladies when I say that Johnny's idea of beauty means more than yours.
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Nickel
curiouser and curiouser
Yep. Gay men are not sexually attracted to their female models, thin or not. They choose them because they are walking clothes hangers that best show the flow and movement of the clothing.
cricketmd
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Aww!! I liked your play on words!
pixiegirl
Cleopatra Jones
I don't find any of the oldies fat by any means. While I agree that body standards have changed, I don't think that the requirements for being obese have.
Nickel
curiouser and curiouser
I find this interesting and I know it's been discussed here before. It's considered taboo to rag on a woman for being a little chubby (not talking obese, just regular old overweight), but it's perfectly fine to bust on someone for being really thin (and again, I'm not talking extremes). It's the whole "real women have curves" thing. Well, not all women have curves and it doesn't mean they starved themselves to look that way. I mean, yeah the girls in that photo seem to be too thin and skew closer to the extreme end of things, but look at someone like Charlize Theron. She's not particularly curvy but she has an amazingly beautiful, healthy looking (albeit thin) body. Aren't we all a little old to be saying "All straight guys love curves"? And I say this as someone who spent most of her life naturally thin and was teased mercilessly for it. Fortunately for everyone involved, I grew out of that and have to watch what I eat like the rest of the fatties. Now I'm going to go eat a cookie.
pixiegirl
Cleopatra Jones
Nickel
curiouser and curiouser
I realized mid-post that you were the one that started a thread about it awhile back.I so love you and completely concur!
libertytyranny
Dream Stealer
I think there is a disagreement, though, about what curves means. I know several women who describe themselves as curvy, who are just fat. I hate to be mean like that but it's the truth. To me, curvy and womanly is not anorexic thin. There are naturally thin women (unfortunately my BFF is one of them, ugh) but there are very, very few women who are naturally as thin as those models without any help from restrictive eating or exercise. Curvy is used as a euphamism for chubby, but I don't use it that way. regardless, maybe I am running in the wrong circles (like, not with Johnny Depp, *sigh*) but I have only ever met one man (my cousin) who preferred stick thin. And frankly we all thought he was gay for like, ever. And I don't know if he actually DID like stick thin, or if his affinity for vietnamese women just led him there
All the other men I have met have preferred T and A over bones.and they are perfect clothes hangers is a crock. They are thin because that's the look they are going for, has nothing to do with the clothes themselves. If they were really that great of designers, they could make clothes look good on real bodies. But they don't care.
Of course they don't care. It's about the clothes, not how women look in them. Haven't you ever been to a fashion show and seen some of the monstrosities these nuts come up with? Who wears that crap? Most of us are happy with jeans that fit and have no interest in haute couture.
I've known guys who prefer incredibly thin women, to the point that they have bony chests. One guy was an eating disorder Lothario and frankly admitted it. And I'm curious if most guys actually prefer women with meat on their bones, or if that's just what they're stuck with because they can't get Angelina Jolie?
Nickel
curiouser and curiouser
For argument's sake, I'm referring to curves as boobs/hips/butt. Hence Charlize Theron as an example - she has a very boyish figure but is still a sexy woman. Is she everyone's cup of tea? Nope, but neither is Kim Kardashian. Some men like curves, some men don't. Some men like women in general. Who gives a flip? I think you may have missed my point, as I specifically excluded super-thin women so I wasn't referring to skin and bones vs T&A. To use your earlier post, it was more about curvy vs stick, and my point was less about "what guys like" and more about how we, as women, view/judge other women based on their bodies. Why is it necessary to proclaim that men only like women with curves? How does that make the skinny girl feel? Is it then okay for her to say that men don't like cellulite on women's asses either? And I'm not likely to jump on board with your data collection when your only frame of reference is "all the guys you know". A lot of thin/non-curvy women are married or have no problems finding a man.I think there is a disagreement, though, about what curves means. I know several women who describe themselves as curvy, who are just fat. I hate to be mean like that but it's the truth. To me, curvy and womanly is not anorexic thin. There are naturally thin women (unfortunately my BFF is one of them, ugh) but there are very, very few women who are naturally as thin as those models without any help from restrictive eating or exercise. Curvy is used as a euphamism for chubby, but I don't use it that way. regardless, maybe I am running in the wrong circles (like, not with Johnny Depp, *sigh*) but I have only ever met one man (my cousin) who preferred stick thin. And frankly we all thought he was gay for like, ever. And I don't know if he actually DID like stick thin, or if his affinity for vietnamese women just led him there
and they are perfect clothes hangers is a crock. They are thin because that's the look they are going for, has nothing to do with the clothes themselves. If they were really that great of designers, they could make clothes look good on real bodies. But they don't care.
P.S. "A lot of those models" are in fact 14, 15, 16 year old girls.
SoMD_Fun_Guy
Do you like apples?
Yes, I prefer a woman that is healthy and womanly (nice T&A is a plus
) - not an unhealthy stick figure or extremely overweight. You don't, but Johnny Depp - heartthrob of the female masses - loves painfully emaciated women. That's all you ever see him with. And I think I can speak for most of us ladies when I say that Johnny's idea of beauty means more than yours.
Vrai, I understand how some famous men choose thin women, but not all do. I respectfully disagree with you on this premise and I honestly don't believe that some movie star (or public figure or fashion industry) should determine how any person (woman or man) should look. Most of the women you mentioned are very thin, to the point of being unhealthy. It's sad that kids and young adults are hurting their bodies trying to conform to some unrealistic image. How many kids are picked on because they don't fit the right image? It hurts their self esteem and can eventually lead to suicide. Why? Cuz someone doesn't fit the hollywood mold? It's BS. Young girls/women need to realize that those "unsightly bumps" are considered sexy to many, many men.
As for you speaking for most ladies when you say that Johnny Depp's idea of beauty means more than mine. Well, everyone has their own opinion and maybe most women think they have to fit Johnny's ideal - but then again maybe not.
I will say this though, I'd rather be with a woman that cares what my idea of beauty is and not Johnny's. If a woman doesn't care what I think, then she can go have fun trying to impress Mr Depp. I'll wish her the best of luck and move on to someone else.
Nickel
curiouser and curiouser
I like Johnny Depp just fine, but I don't find him particularly attractive. If he showered regularly and cut his hair...maybe. Probably not though. I do think he's a great actor and I love his movies.Ok, I must be the only female in the tread who does NOT like Johnny Depp and does not think he's
pixiegirl
Cleopatra Jones
I think he's ok, nothing to write home about. Most women wouldn't like him in real life if he wasn't Johnny Depp. If some guy that looked just like him approached them in a bar they'd be running the other direction.
Super models are by no means considered "sex symbols" either. Playboy models are the modern day Marylins, and Bettys. So the comparrison wasn't even fair to begin with.