Charles County Workers Win Collective Bargaining Rights
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BTW - I watched US Steel imploded. Corp met union demands while steel was in high demand to keep the product going.
When the market crashed, they couldn't compete.
One reason was to pay for the union demands they sacrificed upgrading the plants with new technology.
That they sold to Japan and Korea to supplement the steel making operations that were on a thin margin.
My friends, who's daddy was union at the plant, all wanted to go there. High wages, and the fun of pissing off the high crane into the steel were the attraction (f'ing off on the job is a benefit covered on the CBA).
itsbob
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Do tell, how much salary and benefits should a job get that takes no skills to do?? I know McDonald's fry guys want $15 an hour, but if literally anyone can do the job, why should they get $15 an hour??
Kinnakeet
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I agree 15 an hour to flip burgers is crazy as those jobs were not mad for a career but some will make it that way
itsbob
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There are many county jobs that are about the same.. little or no skill sets, they already make a decent living and have decent benefits, now the Union is going to come in and demand they get salaries about equivalent with a doctor, and better benefits than any private company employee. Unions are TERRIBLE for local governments, the Union has all the power.
Kinnakeet
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I see nothing wrong with increasing your wages and benefits I would think the local government does not like them because they cant control them maybe? I have been union for a long time and have had no problems but have heard non union employees complain but that's their prerogative
Couple stories about unions.
My dad was a member of International Boilermakers and Blacksmiths Union (B&O RR). He always complained that while the rank and file wanted better benefits, all the union brass would ever negotiate was higher pay. That way, they could increase dues and line their pockets.
My wife was called into a union food processing plant out in the mid-west because the line workers were suffering high numbers of repetitive stress injuries, causing the plant's Workman's Comp claims to skyrocket and OSHA to take notice. She evaluated every line job in the plant and performed risk analysis. One of the things she recommended was job rotations. Every line employee would be trained and rotate through the various positions throughout the day, because different jobs use different muscle groups. The union went ballistic and said no way in hell. The "easy" job were rewarded to those with seniority in the plant. I'm not sure if there was ever a resolution.
My dad was a member of International Boilermakers and Blacksmiths Union (B&O RR). He always complained that while the rank and file wanted better benefits, all the union brass would ever negotiate was higher pay. That way, they could increase dues and line their pockets.
My wife was called into a union food processing plant out in the mid-west because the line workers were suffering high numbers of repetitive stress injuries, causing the plant's Workman's Comp claims to skyrocket and OSHA to take notice. She evaluated every line job in the plant and performed risk analysis. One of the things she recommended was job rotations. Every line employee would be trained and rotate through the various positions throughout the day, because different jobs use different muscle groups. The union went ballistic and said no way in hell. The "easy" job were rewarded to those with seniority in the plant. I'm not sure if there was ever a resolution.
The never ending series of pay and benefit increases given to unionized civil workforce’s by various city and state governments in return for political support is why major cities and even some entire states are facing bankruptcy.
Now Charles County can join them.
One thing that makes me angry is that these slugs are what people think of when they say "government" employee.
No real accountability, lousy people skills (for those that deal with the public) etc.
IMHO Union = Protection for the lazy and incompetent. Socialism at it's finest.
BTW, it's been demonstrated time and again, that unions bring productivity down. Peer pressure is used to "encourage" everyone to work to the lowest common denominator.
Kinnakeet
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Kinnakeet
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Yes Im told my union likes the democrats but I do not and have not ever voted for those people
LightRoasted
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If I may ...
I notice that your meme does not have the requisite Union printed "by" logo. Are you trying to say something?
I posted it twice.......I do not want a "time out"....If I may ...
I notice that your meme does not have the requisite Union printed "by" logo. Are you trying to say something?
itsbob
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Can you also say your dues does not go into their warchests??
Kinnakeet
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I do not think they bring productivity down hell
They might but what I make a year it does not bother me at all
Clem72
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Uh huh. I would love to see the union person who did the same job I used to for......280 to 420k/year.
That does nothing to change the simple facts: Elected officials buy union support by promising ever-increasing levels of pay and benefits for the unionized government employees "under" them. Self-licking ice cream cone .....and where does 100% of that money come from?...us..the taxpayers.
If private business employees want to organize and fight for better wages or benefits..fine. The business owners have basic financial choices to weigh. Businesses can and do tell unions to "FOAD" and move to more business-friendly states. Not so with municipal workers...their "bosses" have nothing to lose whatsoever by promising ever-higher wages and benefits in exchange for union support to get elected.
Many articles like this out there...
https://www.nationalaffairs.com/publications/detail/the-trouble-with-public-sector-unions
https://www.nationalaffairs.com/publications/detail/the-trouble-with-public-sector-unions
agree 98% - union friendly states have laws that don't allow an employer to say FOAD. They are forced to allow the union to come in and hold a vote and they must abide by that vote. It only has to be 50% to force the entire workforce into the union. It only takes one employee to get the union in the door.
A lot of southern (anti-union) states have right to work laws, employees can opt out of the union and tell the union to FOAD
Employers cannot retaliate against a worker for union activities.
Laws vary state to state so check your local listings.
But back to the OP. If Maryland is going to allow public sector unions the same power as private sector, it's only time before it's not a right to work state, but a full on pro-union state (and yes, unions have long been linked to the Democratic party, often with the words corruption attached).
Who got JFK nominated and elected? Why the mafia and the unions, primarily the teamsters.