Che Belafonte
- Thread starter vraiblonde
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This is one of the things I was talking about the other day. Calling our President a terrorist is just WAY over the line. Howard Dean called him the enemy during the primaries, and he was rewarded by getting to run the DNC. So don't tell me this sort of ugliness isn't the true Democratic party.
Larry Gude
Strung Out
Does anyone know why...
...Harry is this sad, angry man using his fame and fortune to promote a world where neither is possible for 'common folks'?
...Harry is this sad, angry man using his fame and fortune to promote a world where neither is possible for 'common folks'?
LexiGirl75
100% Goapele Head!
i love the husband wife team-up. I don't know anything about anything. Is Chavez a boxer? If he fights that good I will support him but what does Bush have to do with it. Is he going to box too? Or are they comparing the dangers of war to that of boxing? 
Sorry need more info.
Sorry need more info.
Toxick
Splat
It is my assertion that fewer than half of the people in the United States know what Venezuela is, fewer than half of them know where it is, and fewer than half of them give a tiny rat's ass.
Moreover, I will wager that, not even 1 million people in the United States know who Hugo Chavez is much less supports his revolution.
Belefonte is a simpleton turned activist without a cause. Why he's latched onto that friggin Chavez nut-case is a mystery.
Larry Gude
Strung Out
I see and...
...yeah, but 50 millions voted for him anyway!
Toxick said:
...yeah, but 50 millions voted for him anyway!
TO play Devil's Advocate - what exactly *do* you and I know about Chavez, really?vraiblonde said:
Admittedly, I do hate it when someone goes to another country, calls our President a tyrant and the world's worst terrorist - aside from the fact that it is offensive, it's sheer lunacy, considering the tyrants and terrorists who ARE such - I of course realize that aside from that, they do have the right to say so, even if I don't like it.
I also realize that there are many in Hollywood and elsewhere on the left who DO in fact, idealize socialism, and socialists are the way of the future for them.
But I've already squandered too much online trying to find out why Chavez is such a bad guy, aside from a few comments here and there. Hasn't he been elected with high approval ratings? (Yes, I know there have been allegations of electoral fraud - just as in THIS country - and they've been dismissed by none other than Jimmy Carter, to no one's surprise). What exactly makes him so "bad"?
Because he's hip and cool - a Castro for the new millennium. Why do people wear "Viva Che" t-shirts when they have no idea who he is?Toxick said:
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Yeah, that George Bush is some tyrant compared to Hugo Chavez.
Spoiled
Active Member
Usually when i see people wearing Che shirts i think of Che Guevara... Shirts with his [che guevara] portrait on them on a red background were popular when i was in school (a whole 2 years ago)... Most people had no idea who he was, what he did or anything like that... It was also the same kids that would write anarchy symbols all over their stuff that wore those kind of shirts... I maybe missing something though
edit: wait, i think i just realized we were talking about the same thing oh well atleast we are on the same page
edit: wait, i think i just realized we were talking about the same thing
oh well atleast we are on the same page
SamSpade said:
Larry Gude
Strung Out
Well...
...Mr. Advocate...
Just what Wicky says and what I've read over the years and heard on the news. Does that make him particularly bad?
Is he Hitler? No.
Is he even a Castro? No.
Is he an ally or friend of the US? No. So #### him.
...Mr. Advocate...
Just what Wicky says and what I've read over the years and heard on the news. Does that make him particularly bad?
Is he Hitler? No.
Is he even a Castro? No.
Is he an ally or friend of the US? No. So #### him.
"You are unique and original, just like everyone else"
He's pretty close to being Castro.Larry Gude said:
I try to tell teenagers I know about this, but they'll never get it......ylexot said:They're the non-conformists that all do the same thing
Brian: You're all different!
Crowd (in unison): We're all different!
Lone person in the crowd: I'm not!
They claim they long to be different -- but what they want more than anything is to be like their friends - who might be different from others - but what they want to do is to conform. We all remember this - we were teenagers, once - we remember wanting to fit in, and if that didn't work, wanting to fit in SOME niche with peers who would accept us.
It was a brave - and usually considered kooky or anti-social kid - who did things completely their own way. They were extremely rare. (And sometimes they WERE kooky and anti-social).
I just think it's funny when a kid says they want to be different, but clearly say they want to wear, listen to, buy, own, and do things "because everyone else does it".