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Chuckt

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I am thinking of the great apostasy in the end times. What kind of Christians will be left behind? The Christians that don't know Jesus.

2 Timothy 3:5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.

Is it good enough to say that I believe in Jesus and that he isn't Lord of my life? I believe that Christians without doctrine are probably apostate because they don't have the faith that lets them listen to God because God would convince the world of sin, righteousness and judgment which is missing in their lives.


2 Timothy indicates there will be believers that have a form of godliness but deny the power. Romans 1 says the gospel is the power of God so maybe they are missing the gospel. What is the gospel? Turn to 1 Corinthians 15:1-11. One pastor believes that without preaching Jesus rose from the grave, it isn't the gospel. So how else would we deny the power? By not trusting Jesus to catch you from entering Hell. When we trust in our works, grace is no more grace and we're putting our trust in our works instead of His. Another interesting thing is that the sacrificial system was given because we couldn't keep the works of the law so if we're trusting in works, the law was nothing we could keep anyway.

I was told the lie that there are more Christians in country music than any other group of music. I got drug along to one of those concerts and there are people drinking, black and white video without color of female figures on stripper poles. These artists are in the world and their choices are evident that they love the world. These artists have no fear of God. The Church is called out of the world to proclaim His glorious truths. I'm not interested in these sunday only and forget about Jesus on monday in name only Christians.
 
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onel0126

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Chuckt said:
I am thinking of the great apostasy in the end times. What kind of Christians will be left behind? The Christians that don't know Jesus. 2 Timothy 3:5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away. Is it good enough to say that I believe in Jesus and that he isn't Lord of my life? I believe that Christians without doctrine are probably apostate because they don't have the faith that lets them listen to God because God would convince the world of sin, righteousness and judgment which is missing in their lives. 2 Timothy indicates there will be believers that have a form of godliness but deny the power. Romans 1 says the gospel is the power of God so maybe they are missing the gospel. What is the gospel? Turn to 1 Corinthians 15:1-11. One pastor believes that without preaching Jesus rose from the grave, it isn't the gospel. So how else would we deny the power? By not trusting Jesus to catch you from entering Hell. When we trust in our works, grace is no more grace and we're putting our trust in our works instead of His. Another interesting thing is that the sacrificial system was given because we couldn't keep the works of the law so if we're trusting in works, the law was nothing we could keep anyway. I was told the lie that there are more Christians in country music than any other group of music. I got drug along to one of those concerts and there are people drinking, black and white video without color of female figures on stripper poles. These artists are in the world and their choices are evident that they love the world. These artists have no fear of God. The Church is called out of the world to proclaim His glorious truths. I'm not interested in these sunday only and forget about Jesus on monday in name only Christians.
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cheezgrits

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Well, now, curious as to what chuckt does for entertainment. Again, I ask a simple question, since you condemn these "worldly" things...do you live your life literally by the bible? Don't cut and paste a quote, just answer the question if you will. I'm simply curious.
 
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cheezgrits said:
Well, now, curious as to what chuckt does for entertainment. Again, I ask a simple question, since you condemn these "worldly" things...do you live your life literally by the bible? Don't cut and paste a quote, just answer the question if you will. I'm simply curious.
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The only music I listen to is Christian anymore and I've curbed television and movies because that is what I want to do.

I'm nearly middle aged so when I was a child, adults asked me what the difference between fiction and a lie is. Fiction means 'not true'? When is it okay to lie? You can read things that are not true but not the truth from the Bible?

I was reading an author on the Black Art of Video Console Design and he said that if you want to learn how to make electronic computers like that then you have to give something up like watching television. If I gave up t.v. for building computers, they would say that I'm so devoted but if you give up television for something else then people would say I don't have legitimate reasons in the eyes of others and that is a double standard.

Romans 1:32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

I don't do those things but I have pleasure on those that do these things on television. Hmm. So what is the difference between committing the act or not committing the act? It is okay if you enjoy it though?


Do you ever see a Carnival at a Catholic church? What is the origin of the world carnival?

Mid 16th century: from Italian carnevale, carnovale, from medieval Latin carnelevamen, carnelevarium 'Shrovetide', from Latin caro, carn- 'flesh' + levare 'put away'.
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http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us/definition/american_english/carnival

The word carnival basically comes from the word "carnal".

And what exactly do you think your tax dollars should be paying for in terms of education? To read fiction? To play Xbox and Nintendo Wii all day? Imagine a three story mall where all they have is electronic components. I can post pictures. The difference is that our children are made to be consumers when other countries just have everyone learning it.

Shenzhen Hua Qiang Bei market

https://www.google.com/search?hl=en....1.1.0....0...1ac.2.64.img..1.0.0.iDWJbN7YzZE

What electronics have you designed lately? What do you make? Ever wonder why you will never solve the trade deficit? It is because you don't make anything to solve the trade deficit.

[video]https://youtu.be/0IsW6HOnWak?t=118[/video]
 
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Chuckt

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onel0126 said:
You never disappoint.
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Apostasy (from Greek αποστασία, meaning a defection or revolt, from απο, apo, "away, apart", στασις, stasis, "standing") is a term generally employed to describe the formal abandonment or renunciation of one's religion, especially if the motive is deemed unworthy.

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:Glossary_of_Jewish_terms

What is the difference between apostasy and a "Sunday only Christian" who follows Jesus only on one hour during a church service because the rest of the time is not God's? He's a Christian, right? But he or she holds the Christian faith to be unworthy the rest of their time, right? So it was easy for me to see in my youth people put forth dozens of scriptural ideas and angles to things. How crazy is it if I look at it through the lense of sin and ask a legitimate question from definitions?

Ever hear of a Creaster? It is a merging of the word "Christmas" and "Easter" for a Christian who only comes out on Christmas and Easter? Isn't God worth following the rest of the year?

So what is your definition for apostasy? Is your definition too big or too small?
 
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[video=youtube;tjO9JDlTxTg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=tjO9JDlTxTg[/video]
 
onel0126

onel0126

Bead mumbler
Chuckt said:
The only music I listen to is Christian anymore and I've curbed television and movies because that is what I want to do. I'm nearly middle aged so when I was a child, adults asked me what the difference between fiction and a lie is. Fiction means 'not true'? When is it okay to lie? You can read things that are not true but not the truth from the Bible? I was reading an author on the Black Art of Video Console Design and he said that if you want to learn how to make electronic computers like that then you have to give something up like watching television. If I gave up t.v. for building computers, they would say that I'm so devoted but if you give up television for something else then people would say I don't have legitimate reasons in the eyes of others and that is a double standard. Romans 1:32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them. I don't do those things but I have pleasure on those that do these things on television. Hmm. So what is the difference between committing the act or not committing the act? It is okay if you enjoy it though? Do you ever see a Carnival at a Catholic church? What is the origin of the world carnival? http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us/definition/american_english/carnival The word carnival basically comes from the word "carnal". And what exactly do you think your tax dollars should be paying for in terms of education? To read fiction? To play Xbox and Nintendo Wii all day? Imagine a three story mall where all they have is electronic components. I can post pictures. The difference is that our children are made to be consumers when other countries just have everyone learning it. Shenzhen Hua Qiang Bei market https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&site=imghp&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1920&bih=955&q=Shenzhen+Hua+Qiang+Bei+market&oq=Shenzhen+Hua+Qiang+Bei+market&gs_l=img.3...1771.1771.0.2265.1.1.0.0.0.0.70.70.1.1.0....0...1ac.2.64.img..1.0.0.iDWJbN7YzZE What electronics have you designed lately? What do you make? Ever wonder why you will never solve the trade deficit? It is because you don't make anything to solve the trade deficit. Video Link: https://youtu.be/0IsW6HOnWak?t=118
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In what year did you last have an alcoholic beverage?
 
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Chuckt

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onel0126 said:
For health reasons? Believe it to be evil?
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I think that if you were young then people would be offering it to you so they could laugh at you.

There are English 101 professors who think it is their job in college to play videos with naked female bodies exposed. They're called liberals and they think they have to liberate you from God. Alcohol does the same thing for them.
 
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