Cold Frames...

Cowgirl

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I'm thinking about making one. I remember my mom used to have one, but I don't remember us using it all that often. Does anyone have one? I really would rather have a greenhouse, but that's not happening any time soon. When would I be able to put stuff in the cold frame? Is it for germinating (I would think it's still too cold), or for hardening? Or what? :confused:
 

Agee

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I'm thinking about making one. I remember my mom used to have one, but I don't remember us using it all that often. Does anyone have one? I really would rather have a greenhouse, but that's not happening any time soon. When would I be able to put stuff in the cold frame? Is it for germinating (I would think it's still too cold), or for hardening? Or what? :confused:

I think they're more for the early spring months (March/April), when you have some warm days, but still the possibility of frost.

Just a :poke:at it!
 
You can get plastic trays with clear plastic lids at Lowes. Plant the seeds in the black plastic tray and put the lid on. Instant mini green house. Just offering up a cheap alternative.
 

Cowgirl

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I think they're more for the early spring months (March/April), when you have some warm days, but still the possibility of frost.

Just a :poke:at it!

Yeah, that's what I'm thinking....I guess I just want to know if they're worth having or not. :shrug:
 

Cowgirl

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You can get plastic trays with clear plastic lids at Lowes. Plant the seeds in the black plastic tray and put the lid on. Instant mini green house. Just offering up a cheap alternative.

Thanks. I do use those sometimes, but I wanted something bigger.
 

Agee

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You can get plastic trays with clear plastic lids at Lowes. Plant the seeds in the black plastic tray and put the lid on. Instant mini green house. Just offering up a cheap alternative.

Great idea!

Yeah, that's what I'm thinking....I guess I just want to know if they're worth having or not. :shrug:

I think they would be worth it, if you want to get a early jump on your planting. Plants such as broccoli, cabbage, spinach, lettuce, you start early in the season.

The ones I've seen, are no more than a wooden frame, with a lid covered with sheet plastic. You normally, remove or vent the top during the warm days.

BTW, I'm with you on the green-house, always wanted one!
 

Cowgirl

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Great idea!



I think they would be worth it, if you want to get a early jump on your planting. Plants such as broccoli, cabbage, spinach, lettuce, you start early in the season.

The ones I've seen, are no more than a wooden frame, with a lid covered with sheet plastic. You normally, remove or vent the top during the warm days.

BTW, I'm with you on the green-house, always wanted one!


I'm getting 2 windows from my coworker. :yahoo:
 

jazz lady

~*~ Rara Avis ~*~
PREMO Member
I'm getting 2 windows from my coworker. :yahoo:

Best thing for making a cold frame. :yay: I had one that was made from an old window at my old house and looked kind of like this but a bit bigger:

Keep Your Plants All Winter with a Cold Frame | DoItYourself.com

Two hints: replace the glass with fabric or plastic else you'll tend to cook the plants inside plus the glass is really heavy and get an automatic vent like this one:

Automatic Vent Opener

I used this special reinforced plastic fabric in the window because my cats liked to lay across them to sun themselves. :lol: I can't remember where I got it from but it's the stuff you see in the picture here:

Lawn and Garden Greenhouse Kit

Cold frames are great for starting plants - I'd start my cold weather plants in January and cycle through the rest of my plantings as the weather warmed and the plants were put in the garden. It's also great for hardening off plants you raise in a greenhouse like I did or you buy from a nursery before you put them in their permanent home in the garden.

You can also make a cold frame from an old window and some bales of straw, which I've done many times before the permanent cold frame was built:

Gardening : Other : Cold Frames : Home & Garden Television

Good luck and happy gardening! :cheers:
 

Cowgirl

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Best thing for making a cold frame. :yay: I had one that was made from an old window at my old house and looked kind of like this but a bit bigger:

Keep Your Plants All Winter with a Cold Frame | DoItYourself.com

Two hints: replace the glass with fabric or plastic else you'll tend to cook the plants inside plus the glass is really heavy and get an automatic vent like this one:

Automatic Vent Opener

I used this special reinforced plastic fabric in the window because my cats liked to lay across them to sun themselves. :lol: I can't remember where I got it from but it's the stuff you see in the picture here:

Lawn and Garden Greenhouse Kit

Cold frames are great for starting plants - I'd start my cold weather plants in January and cycle through the rest of my plantings as the weather warmed and the plants were put in the garden. It's also great for hardening off plants you raise in a greenhouse like I did or you buy from a nursery before you put them in their permanent home in the garden.

You can also make a cold frame from an old window and some bales of straw, which I've done many times before the permanent cold frame was built:

Gardening : Other : Cold Frames : Home & Garden Television

Good luck and happy gardening! :cheers:


:love: Thank you!!! :flowers:
 

jazz lady

~*~ Rara Avis ~*~
PREMO Member
:love: Thank you!!! :flowers:

You're very welcome. :huggy: I do love to garden and I swear I AM going to have a real one this year again. The flower and herb beds just ain't cutting it. :lol:

And the AV is still doing splendidly. I keep checking for blooms but none yet but it's getting BIG. :shocking:
 

latinamomma

Transam's wife
Go up to Wentworth's Nursery in Charlotte Hall and talk to Sally Oliver. She is the manager of the greenhouses there. She is really friendly and will help ya alot!! Me, I think I am going to do the same thing...husband and I want to start building one.
 

Cowgirl

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You're very welcome. :huggy: I do love to garden and I swear I AM going to have a real one this year again. The flower and herb beds just ain't cutting it. :lol:

And the AV is still doing splendidly. I keep checking for blooms but none yet but it's getting BIG. :shocking:

Glad to hear it! A new coworker just brought in a beautiful one....it was full of blooms. It has since lost all the blooms.....so I'm wondering if she'll have any luck with it in that office. :lol:
 
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toppick08

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Cowgirl.........You should have the first ripe 'maters on your block in the summer!!
 
Cold frames

I'm thinking about making one. I remember my mom used to have one, but I don't remember us using it all that often. Does anyone have one? I really would rather have a greenhouse, but that's not happening any time soon. When would I be able to put stuff in the cold frame? Is it for germinating (I would think it's still too cold), or for hardening? Or what? :confused:


I use cinderblocks and a 2 part window for mine. The window has a glass pane and a screen component. You can make them just about any size you want as long as you have something to cover it.

The Suburban Gardener has a chapter on coldframes and how to make them.

In mine I start my garden "greens" toward the end of February. I keep the glass closed until I start to see a fair amount of germination then, depending on the day's weather, I vent it a little or a lot. I grow lettuce, spinach, and radish.

Hope this helps. I like using one and it does extend my growing season.
 

Sonsie

The mighty Al-Sonsie!
Kind of off topic, sorry.

I'm moving to a hot almost desert-type climate with poor soil for almost anything other than grazing. I'll have a lot of land to play with now. Does anyone here compost? I'm thinking about going great guns on it, kitchen waste, pony manure, everything used. I want to improve the soil enough to have a small garden. Think it's feasible? I'm a serious novice with only an herb garden last summer for experience. Is composting the answer? Is it hard to keep up with it? Think it could improve that kind of soil enough to make it worth the effort? Would it take years? I'm so clueless...
 
Kind of off topic, sorry.

I'm moving to a hot almost desert-type climate with poor soil for almost anything other than grazing. I'll have a lot of land to play with now. Does anyone here compost? I'm thinking about going great guns on it, kitchen waste, pony manure, everything used. I want to improve the soil enough to have a small garden. Think it's feasible? I'm a serious novice with only an herb garden last summer for experience. Is composting the answer? Is it hard to keep up with it? Think it could improve that kind of soil enough to make it worth the effort? Would it take years? I'm so clueless...
I do. Not hard at all. If you're gonna go great guns, get a nice looking scrap bucket for the kitchen counter (they make really nice ceramic ones w/ charcoal filters) and use the biobag liners. Makes kitchen scrap composting MUCH easier and cleaner. I have 3 plastic compost bins around my backyard. That way when I am cutting the grass, I am never too far from a bin. When I cut the front yard, I dump the clippings directly into the garden and around the base of the fruit trees to act as mulch until it decomposes. I also get the horse waste from a friend of mine with horses. Compost it in a pile in the edge of the woods at the back of my property. In addition, I get already composted manure from a farm by the trailer load (they load the trailer with a front end loader). When we moved into the house, our soil was light tan in the area where the garden is. In other words, it was useless for growing. Last year when I plowed it up, I had a couple inches of nice BLACK soil. Where we have the garden is on a slight slope (1' over 30') and the topography of the yard means the natural route for run-off is right thru one end of the garden. So last year I built a 2 sided wall around it with landscaping timbers. The top row of timbers is level and at the high end of the yard it is ground level. I am going to eventually turn the garden into a raised bed by adding compost and whatnot every year.

Fixing crappy soil is not an overnight project. It will take a couple years to get it improved. Start with a small area and enlarge it every year.
 
You're very welcome. :huggy: I do love to garden and I swear I AM going to have a real one this year again. The flower and herb beds just ain't cutting it. :lol:
If you need a large area broken up for this garden, I have a plow for my garden tractor and a tiller.
 

Sonsie

The mighty Al-Sonsie!
I do. Not hard at all. If you're gonna go great guns, get a nice looking scrap bucket for the kitchen counter (they make really nice ceramic ones w/ charcoal filters) and use the biobag liners. Makes kitchen scrap composting MUCH easier and cleaner. I have 3 plastic compost bins around my backyard. That way when I am cutting the grass, I am never too far from a bin. When I cut the front yard, I dump the clippings directly into the garden and around the base of the fruit trees to act as mulch until it decomposes. I also get the horse waste from a friend of mine with horses. Compost it in a pile in the edge of the woods at the back of my property. In addition, I get already composted manure from a farm by the trailer load (they load the trailer with a front end loader). When we moved into the house, our soil was light tan in the area where the garden is. In other words, it was useless for growing. Last year when I plowed it up, I had a couple inches of nice BLACK soil. Where we have the garden is on a slight slope (1' over 30') and the topography of the yard means the natural route for run-off is right thru one end of the garden. So last year I built a 2 sided wall around it with landscaping timbers. The top row of timbers is level and at the high end of the yard it is ground level. I am going to eventually turn the garden into a raised bed by adding compost and whatnot every year.

Fixing crappy soil is not an overnight project. It will take a couple years to get it improved. Start with a small area and enlarge it every year.

Thanks a lot, I figured it was going to be a major endeavor but since we'll be there for years it will be worth the effort. Guess I better pick up a few books and educate myself a little better on the subject. Right now the little bit I know about composting comes from Paul James on Gardening by the Yard.
 
Thanks a lot, I figured it was going to be a major endeavor but since we'll be there for years it will be worth the effort. Guess I better pick up a few books and educate myself a little better on the subject. Right now the little bit I know about composting comes from Paul James on Gardening by the Yard.
Forget the books, search google.
 
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