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cattitude
My Sweetest Boy
Cop is clearly wrong here but what do you have against law enforcement and why do you search for this stuff?
Maybe he was searching for Camaro?
Maybe the cop went about the apprehension the wrong way, but he told the guy to leave, the guy wouldn't, he then came out and politely gave the guy the information as to where to go, the guy still stood there with his camera on...clearly not leaving, then the police officer moved in to make the arrest. These cops had enough to deal with a suspect who exchanged gun fire, then this jerk of a camera man lights the officers up with a bright light. The cop tells him to put the camera down so he can arrest him, but the jerk then refuses to do that. The guy deserved to get locked up!
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RadioPatrol
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I didn't see the cop swing, I saw the cop go to take the guy down after telling him to put the camera down! You're just a cop hater! You see what you want to see!the cop clearly swung on the guy when his back was turned .....
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Baja28
Obama destroyed America
Sorry but I totally disagree this time. Cop was way out of line.
Why..the cop tells the guy to leave..the guy continues to shoot the camera even after the cop tells him where to go. It isn't till the cop turns around the guy goes to his car. Now at this time the cop is locking the guy up. Tells the guy to put the camera down, the guy clearly refuses on tape! The cop locks him up. Like I said originally, maybe the cop could have handled the arrest better, but he had the right to arrest the guy.
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RadioPatrol
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Cop is clearly wrong here but what do you have against law enforcement and why do you search for this stuff?
Nothing .... until the Fed started militarizing the local police forces ...
while this not a SWAT related incident, every little small town and county has to have a swat team, and training that comes with it turns the police farther and farther away from the people they are supposed to protect ...
watch the thug again tackling an 80yr old woman in New Orleans with an unloaded .32 pistol
it is a whole new mind set .... started with the war on drugs ... look @ DC they are getting AR 15's ... "cause they need to keep up with the gang bangers" ... when is the last time you heard of a DC Cop being killed with an Ak or AR ?
and I don't search out this stuff it comes to me from like minded people ....
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RadioPatrol
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yeah ah huh and the way the police officer is slinking around the guy trying to get behind him so he wont get caught on tape knocking him down ....
you can tell the way the police officer was acting he was not acting according to procedure ..........
other wise he would have faced the camera man head on F2F ...
Yea, um...all police officers arrest people from the front. Yea..the handcuffs go in front.. your right..what am I thinking.
yeah ah huh and the way the police officer is slinking around the guy trying to get behind him so he wont get caught on tape knocking him down ....
you can tell the way the police officer was acting he was not acting according to procedure ..........
other wise he would have faced the camera man head on F2F ...
foodcritic
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I did not see a swing
Face to face would have meant the camera man put the camera down and leave the area for his safety like the officer asked him to. Most states have a very clear law about Failing to obey a lawful order (from the police) Orders like move-on if cars are not where they are supposed to be or people gathered where they are not supposed to be.
Camera people do this also. They get right up in your face under the guise of some free speech first amendment issue. Stay behind the police tape like everyone else. Could the officer have used more tact....of course. But he was there for a shooting........Radio man ever been at a shooting? Think the officer may have been a little more under stress than you? Probably. I think some ride alongs in SE DC would do you good.
yeah ah huh and the way the police officer is slinking around the guy trying to get behind him so he wont get caught on tape knocking him down ....
you can tell the way the police officer was acting he was not acting according to procedure ..........
other wise he would have faced the camera man head on F2F ...
Face to face would have meant the camera man put the camera down and leave the area for his safety like the officer asked him to. Most states have a very clear law about Failing to obey a lawful order (from the police) Orders like move-on if cars are not where they are supposed to be or people gathered where they are not supposed to be.
Camera people do this also. They get right up in your face under the guise of some free speech first amendment issue. Stay behind the police tape like everyone else. Could the officer have used more tact....of course. But he was there for a shooting........Radio man ever been at a shooting? Think the officer may have been a little more under stress than you? Probably. I think some ride alongs in SE DC would do you good.
AndyMarquisLIVE
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COP BASHING THREAD 
AK-74me
"Typical White Person"
Being a smart a$$ isn't a crime. Both parties were probably a-holes here. Problem is, this isn't grade school, you can't assault someone just cause they make you mad. I don't care what profession you are, just cause someone is a smart a$$ to you does not mean you can attack them.
Role play the same situation in these environments
-Board meeting
-Department store
-Convention
-Office Break Room
Only difference is a cop gets to hide behind a badge and say you disobeyed a "lawful order". BS.
Role play the same situation in these environments
-Board meeting
-Department store
-Convention
-Office Break Room
Only difference is a cop gets to hide behind a badge and say you disobeyed a "lawful order". BS.
glhs837
Power with Control
As for the arguments about lighting them up, thats bogus. The officer came from standing between two lit up patrol cars, cant get much more lit up than that. Its not like they were crouched down, fearing being shot the next second, not the way they were just standing there.
Why are clear communications so hard? "Sir, put that camera down, or I'll be forced to arrest you". "Sir, you have to move over there, or I'll have to arrest you".
I see video all the time where obviously guilty parties are given 10 or more verbal warnings about whats about to happen. Not here.
Why are clear communications so hard? "Sir, put that camera down, or I'll be forced to arrest you". "Sir, you have to move over there, or I'll have to arrest you".
I see video all the time where obviously guilty parties are given 10 or more verbal warnings about whats about to happen. Not here.
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RadioPatrol
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It isn't hiding behind a lawful order. That is what the law is. These guys are on the perimeter of a police involved shooting and this guy is lighting them up. They are told to go to the media staging area and they refuse because they say they don't know where it is at. The cop gets the location for them and politely tells the guy where to go, and the guy comes back with an answer and his actions clearly show he isn't leaving. After given the location, he continues to shine the lights and camera on the cop. The cop even begins to walk away to see if that will make the guy leave, and the guy continues to shine the camera on him! At that point the guy refused the lawful order of a cop who is attempting to secure an area where there was a shooting. The guy needed to go to jail, plain and simple!
You claim to be friends with a lot of police officers, but I suspect you have no idea what they do. Could the police officer have been more verbal in his direction to the guy? Sure. But it works both ways, this camera man is supposed to be professional as well, was the "was that so hard....was that so hard" crap was just that. Egging the cop on, but the cop continued to walk away until he saw that this camera man was not going to.
I think you are a frustrated want to be cop. Angry at gun laws, angry you can't carry like a police officer, so you look to bash at every opportunity, and would rather look at what a cop did wrong than examine the whole situation to give an unbiased opinion.
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RadioPatrol
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Your Local Police Force Has Been Militarized
The Empire Turns Its Guns on the Citizenry
By PAUL CRAIG ROBERTS
In recent years American police forces have called out SWAT teams 40,000 or more times annually. Last year did you read in your newspaper or hear on TV news of 110 hostage or terrorist events each day? No. What then were the SWAT teams doing? They were serving routine warrants to people who posed no danger to the police or to the public.
Occasionally Washington think tanks produce reports that are not special pleading for donors. One such report is Radley Balko's "Overkill: The Rise of Paramilitary Police Raids in America" (Cato Institute, 2006).
This 100-page report is extremely important and should have been published as a book. SWAT teams (Special Weapons and Tactics) were once rare and used only for very dangerous situations, often involving hostages held by armed criminals. Today SWAT teams are deployed for routine police duties. In the US today, 75-80% of SWAT deployments are for warrant service.
In a high percentage of the cases, the SWAT teams forcefully enter the wrong address, resulting in death, injury, and trauma to perfectly innocent people. Occasionally, highly keyed-up police kill one another in the confusion caused by their stun grenades.
Mr. Balko reports that the use of paramilitary police units began in Los Angeles in the 1960s. The militarization of local police forces got a big boost from Attorney General Ed Meese's "war on drugs" during the Reagan administration. A National Security Decision Directive was issued that declared drugs to be a threat to US national security. In 1988 Congress ordered the National Guard into the domestic drug war. In 1994 the Department of Defense issued a memorandum authorizing the transfer of military equipment and technology to state and local police, and Congress created a program "to facilitate handing military gear over to civilian police agencies."
Today 17,000 local police forces are equipped with such military equipment as Blackhawk helicopters, machine guns, grenade launchers, battering rams, explosives, chemical sprays, body armor, night vision, rappelling gear and armored vehicles. Some have tanks. In 1999, the New York Times reported that a retired police chief in New Haven, Connecticut, told the newspaper, "I was offered tanks, bazookas, anything I wanted." Balklo reports that in 1997, for example, police departments received 1.2 million pieces of military equipment.
Paul Craig Roberts: The Empire Turns Its Guns on the Citizenry
All Mind Set ........
SWAT teams are not held accountable for their tragic mistakes and gratuitous brutality. Police killings got so bad in Albuquerque, New Mexico, for example, that the city hired criminologist Sam Walker to conduct an investigation of police tactics. Killings by police were "off the charts," Walker found, because the SWAT team "had an organizational culture that led them to escalate situations upward rather then de-escalating."
The mind-set of militarized SWAT teams is geared to "taking out"or killing the suspect-- thus, the many deaths from SWAT team utilization. Many innocent people are killed in night time SWAT team entries, because they don't realize that it is the police who have broken into their homes. They believe they are confronted by dangerous criminals, and when they try to defend themselves they are shot down by the police.
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AK-74me
"Typical White Person"
Sure. You think?
I don't want to be a cop, I could of easily been a cop. I am smart enough to know that if I have an oppurtunity to make more money without dealing with the BS then I should take it. I did.
Yes, I am angry at the gun laws in MD. This has nothing to do with being a cop. Every American should be angry about the gun laws of this state.
If that cop had just kept walking the camera man would of been on his way in 30 secs and you know it.He couldn't take letting that PIA camera man get in the last word, so he comes back and starts circling. Camera man knows something is getting ready to go down, so of course he isn't turning his camera off at that point.
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RadioPatrol
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THE MILITARIZATION OF THE AMERICAN POLICE
By Greg Evensen
August 13, 2006
NewsWithViews.com
As a former state police trooper, I can state emphatically, that I oppose the move away from local policing to a heavily armed “national” quasi-military police force policy. You need look no further than New Orleans after Katrina. You could watch California Highway Patrol officers and many out of state police agencies going door to door, disarming innocent civilians. Police officers were on a mission to confiscate firearms from people trying to protect themselves. Observing this, was to incite a first class riot in my home.
It was bad enough to watch these poor, helpless, but courageous civilians, trying to defend themselves against criminals who spoke “Ebonics” and Spanish. It was horrendous to watch the suffering of old men and women abandoned by families or simply unable to leave before the storm hit. But it was absolutely heartbreaking to see beefy, skin-headed officers prying shotguns out of the hands of men and women whose only “crime” was that they tried to keep themselves alive while the “officers” could not be found.
We have become accustomed to standing quietly on the sidelines while our local police Chiefs and Sheriffs have accepted huge amounts of federal dollars and military equipment for their special response units. They are all under a variety of mission specific names and classified standing orders. Once they take the cash however, they are handcuffed to the Feds for whatever future “mission” they may be assigned. It could come from some whacked out Special Agent from the ABC Bureau who dreamed up a little publicity (like Waco) and/or a “show of force” to keep the natives in line. This is to soften up the American public in case they held thoughts of fending for themselves or decisively telling these servants that they weren’t needed, thank you. But then, a well armed citizenry doesn’t fit the UN model of a disarmed nation bowing before the machine-gun toting black clad soldiers of the Omaha, Atlanta or Dayton police departments. Let’s see, black uniforms, coal bucket style helmets, machine-guns at every corner. Hmm, looks like Berlin in 1942?