Cop Swings on Camara When his back is turned

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RadioPatrol

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Sure. You think?

I don't want to be a cop, I could of easily been a cop. I am smart enough to know that if I have an oppurtunity to make more money without dealing with the BS then I should take it. I did.

Yes, I am angry at the gun laws in MD. This has nothing to do with being a cop. Every American should be angry about the gun laws of this state.

If that cop had just kept walking the camera man would of been on his way in 30 secs and you know it.He couldn't take letting that PIA camera man get in the last word, so he comes back and starts circling. Camera man knows something is getting ready to go down, so of course he isn't turning his camera off at that point.



Like a snake or a ####ing shark .......... :whistle:
 

AK-74me

"Typical White Person"
Like a snake or a ####ing shark .......... :whistle:

APD, is one of the most corrupt PD's in the country. You can look them up and see all the problems they have had in the past.

On to that circling thing though. There are a certain amount of people in this world that decide they are going to get it on and this is what procedes the attack. That cop at that point was out of cop mode and outside his training and was back to thug on the street, ready to get it on "insticts".
 
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RadioPatrol

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APD, is one of the most corrupt PD's in the country. You can look them up and see all the problems they have had in the past.

On to that circling thing though. There are a certain amount of people in this world that decide they are going to get it on and this is what procedes the attack. That cop at that point was out of cop mode and outside his training and was back to thug on the street, ready to get it on "insticts".



That was the thought I had, otherwise he would have been facing the
Camera Man head on pointing @ him, ordering him to put the camera down and turn around ...

like the PGPD did a couple weeks ago when the stopped the Reporter following another PGPO in a Police Car on job time doing none related work.

Local Reporter Sues Police Over Injuries

Red Maryland: Prince George's Police Out of Control
 
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sommpd

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That was the thought I had, otherwise he would have been facing the
Camera Man head on pointing @ him, ordering him to put the camera down and turn around ...

like the PGPD did a couple weeks ago when the stopped the Reporter following another PGPO in a Police Car on job time doing none related work.

Local Reporter Sues Police Over Injuries

Red Maryland: Prince George's Police Out of Control
I guess you can't tell the differnce of a reporter walking backward to a police officer huh? The officer didn't face that reporter head on, he made her walk backward to him. Pay attention if you're going to attempt to police bash!
 

sommpd

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If that cop had just kept walking the camera man would of been on his way in 30 secs and you know it.

You don't know that. You don't know what was on the camera man's mind. He was the one who was clearly agitated, not the cop who told him where he needed to be. The cop provided that information in a clear, consise and polite manner. This is exactly what I mean about you. You are quick to speculate on the cops actions. You won't allow the possibility that maybe the cop saw something in the camera man's body language which showed something different. After all, the camera man's tone reveals he is not in the mood to do what he is told!
 

AK-74me

"Typical White Person"
You don't know that. You don't know what was on the camera man's mind. He was the one who was clearly agitated, not the cop who told him where he needed to be. The cop provided that information in a clear, consise and polite manner. This is exactly what I mean about you. You are quick to speculate on the cops actions. You won't allow the possibility that maybe the cop saw something in the camera man's body language which showed something different. After all, the camera man's tone reveals he is not in the mood to do what he is told!


The camera man is at the back of the van putting his stuff into the back when he sees the cop coming back and starts video taping again.

This was on another forum, honestly no cop on there, and there are alot stood up for this "cop", so tell me, since I don't know, what is the correct way the cop should of handled this? I mean if he'd of walked away this wouldn't be all over the internet now with the majority of people thinking this dude is a thug.

Pretty smart some of these cops are going after members of the media like they do with cameras rolling.
 

foodcritic

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Should have been a little clearer

The camera man is at the back of the van putting his stuff into the back when he sees the cop coming back and starts video taping again.

This was on another forum, honestly no cop on there, and there are alot stood up for this "cop", so tell me, since I don't know, what is the correct way the cop should of handled this? I mean if he'd of walked away this wouldn't be all over the internet now with the majority of people thinking this dude is a thug.

Pretty smart some of these cops are going after members of the media like they do with cameras rolling.

He should have just been more clear as to what was going to happen to this reporter. And then given him the ride downtown.
BTW I am all for gun ownership. It has nothing to do with a police state.

SWAT teams used for warrant (so what). I no in these parts they don't unless there is some really dangerous circumstances. I suspect more SWAT teams are used so they can up with their policies and training. You can't expect people to come out every few months and be prepared! Like anything you need to use it or lose it. I am sure most departments have a policy for when swat comes out. :howdy:
 

AK-74me

"Typical White Person"
He should have just been more clear as to what was going to happen to this reporter. And then given him the ride downtown.
BTW I am all for gun ownership. It has nothing to do with a police state.

SWAT teams used for warrant (so what). I no in these parts they don't unless there is some really dangerous circumstances. I suspect more SWAT teams are used so they can up with their policies and training. You can't expect people to come out every few months and be prepared! Like anything you need to use it or lose it. I am sure most departments have a policy for when swat comes out. :howdy:

I am not against all SWAT teams, I see that there is a need for them, just not to the extent they are used today. I think you should take that up with RadioPatrol.

Back to the camera man though. Even if this cop was going to place him under arrest why would he go hands on with him the way he did? Maybe my training is different but wouldn't it seem he should of kept a "safe" standoff distance, gave him orders and then depending on the response he got either place him under arrest standing or from the prone depending on how cooperative he was, or deploy OC spray/taser if the guy was being combative? I mean who goes hands on the way this cop did here in this situation when not forced to?
 

sommpd

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The camera man is at the back of the van putting his stuff into the back when he sees the cop coming back and starts video taping again.

Wow! That is a truly warped perception. "starts video taping again." He never stopped video taping!

This was on another forum, honestly no cop on there, and there are alot stood up for this "cop", so tell me, since I don't know, what is the correct way the cop should of handled this?

There is maybe a better way to handle it, by being more verbal in his demands for the camera man to leave. Of course, if the cop used loud verbal commands then everybody would say the cop was being a jerk so he can't win either way. The cop told the camera man to leave. The camera man refused. The cop told the camera man where to go. The camera man refused again, staying where he was, yelling smart comments. This in itself tells me the camera man had no intention of leaving until he was ready.

The cop tells the camera man to put he camera down, the camera man verbally refuses! The cop effects the arrest. Any "cop" who would say the cop was wrong for making that arrest in my opinion is short sighted and in my opinion has not looked at the facts, but has been swayed by what has been said.

The only cops I have to go on are the two who have spoken up on this forum. Both, food critic and I have said the cop should have been more verbal, but neither have disagreed with the cops decision to take this guy down.

Pretty smart some of these cops are going after members of the media like they do with cameras rolling.

Just shows me cops are honest and act in accordance with their policies and procedures despite cameras rolling. We have nothing to hide!
 
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RadioPatrol

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I am not against all SWAT teams, I see that there is a need for them, just not to the extent they are used today. I think you should take that up with RadioPatrol.



I am not againist SWAT Teams ...... I just think they are being misused .... as the articles I posted state ..... it all goes to Militarizing the local police force, so they become further removed from the public ... fostering more of the "I am a cop I am better than you" we see more and more these days ...

:whistle:
 

AK-74me

"Typical White Person"
I am not againist SWAT Teams ...... I just think they are being misused .... as the articles I posted state ..... it all goes to Militarizing the local police force, so they become further removed from the public ... fostering more of the "I am a cop I am better than you" we see more and more these days ...

:whistle:

ANd I agree with that, I just didn't mention anything about that here and he quoted me that is what I was pointing out.
 
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RadioPatrol

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Wow! That is a truly warped perception. "starts video taping again." He never stopped video taping!



the guy was putting his camera in his vehicle about to leave when the cop jumped him from behind, after circling around behind him like a snake ....


again instead of facing the camera man head on and instructing him to put the camera down, place his hands on his head, etc ..... he chose to attack him from behind .... like the thug he is :eyebrow:
 

AK-74me

"Typical White Person"
Wow! That is a truly warped perception. "starts video taping again." He never stopped video taping!

Yeah the video is rolling and you can see him starting to put gear away, he then lifts back up as the cop is coming back towards him.

And what is the big deal about giving out name and badge number? According to the Chief that is policy and should be SOP for a cop dealing with media people?
 

sommpd

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Yeah the video is rolling and you can see him starting to put gear away, he then lifts back up as the cop is coming back towards him.

And what is the big deal about giving out name and badge number? According to the Chief that is policy and should be SOP for a cop dealing with media people?

Now you are just making stuff up! What is it that you see him putting away? Tell me what the item is? He lifted the camera off of the tripod, that's why the camera went left then right and towards the cop. Are you saying he was going to put the live camera in the car while it's running? Please! You are blinded by your own ignorance!
 

AK-74me

"Typical White Person"
Now you are just making stuff up! What is it that you see him putting away? Tell me what the item is? He lifted the camera off of the tripod, that's why the camera went left then right and towards the cop. Are you saying he was going to put the live camera in the car while it's running? Please! You are blinded by your own ignorance!

I love getting you in a huff. You take it all so personal.

He was at the back of his van and it appeared he had moved there from the time the officer was orginally walking away until he stopped to come back, yes I honsetly believe if that cop hadn't stopped and come back his gear would of been in his van moments later and the whole thing would of never occured.

BTW you never answered, what is YOUR SOP for arresting someone like this, go around them and try to tackle them from behind?
 

sommpd

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I love getting you in a huff. You take it all so personal.

He was at the back of his van and it appeared he had moved there from the time the officer was orginally walking away until he stopped to come back, yes I honsetly believe if that cop hadn't stopped and come back his gear would of been in his van moments later and the whole thing would of never occured.

BTW you never answered, what is YOUR SOP for arresting someone like this, go around them and try to tackle them from behind?
Um, don't flatter yourself that much, you really don't get me in a "huff" as I don't know quite what that is. I enjoy answering your questions and especially pointing out that you don't speak of what you know, you give opinion and speculation as to what would happen. You fit real life situations into your warped sense of what is right or wrong.

There isn't a "sop" for effecting an arrest, as each arrest is different and requires different tactics. I have walked people into jail without so much as handcuffing them, and I have been engaged in extremely violent struggles with people in order to arrest them. It depends on the circumstance.

You're laying this whole thing out on the cop. Any reporters, even in small jurisdictions like we have in Southern Maryland know they can contact the PIO and get direction as to where they should be. This camera man and the reporter that were there were trying to cause trouble. The camera man had plenty of other resources to find out where the staging area was located, but he chose to be beligerent and disobeyed the lawful order of a police officer. He gave NO indication he was leaving. He kept the camera rolling the whole time. Where does it say a police officer has to back away from someone who is violating the law?
 
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RadioPatrol

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Oh GOSH Darn ....

he did not leave when he was told to .....


nice way to cover up any Gov. bad behavior ..... I am ordering you to leave the area ...

Why What are you hiding ......... same #### cops pull on citizens when they pull the over for what ever ....

what do you mean you do want me to search your vehicle, you got something your hiding .........
 

AK-74me

"Typical White Person"
There isn't a "sop" for effecting an arrest, as each arrest is different and requires different tactics. I have walked people into jail without so much as handcuffing them, and I have been engaged in extremely violent struggles with people in order to arrest them. It depends on the circumstance.

So based on your training this officer used the correct tactics for this arrest?

Anyone can see that he is enraged and is going to take it out on that reporter one way or another. If not, he wouldn't of gone about the way he did.
 
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